Rolex Vs AP - Sub vs RO

[abozz]

Patek, AP, Vacheron and now Lange are Hight Horology, no doubt about it, but in my wrist always a Rolex watch, because my admiration for the brand is almost spiritual. I would love to have in my safe a Vacheron, Patek or AP, but in a daily bases My SD43.

I agreed with you than a AP in 25K and a Hulk in the same GRAY price is ridiculous!!!! A hulk is a 9K watch, period.

I enjoy your video very much.

[DGB]

If you compare both watches side by side, you’ll see immediately the quality level of AP.
The finish, the bracelet catching the light, the movement are at a much high level than the Sub.

The strength of the Sub is with the brand Rolex, immediately recognisable, robust and reliable, excellent buy but not at twice the retail price IMO.

If I had to choose only one, it would be the Royal Oak.


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[tyler1980]

i prefer the AP

However i would never compare the two head to head. I cant imagine a situation when it would be between those two watches as they are apples and oranges

[ikincooper]

First off, great video as usual!

Paying the same inflated prices for a Rolex over the AP to me would be crazy, I'd take the AP everyday. That said, I believe some experience with other brands first might help someone appreciate the AP more fully.

On to my potential dilemma...Ive currently got a Rolex SD4K which I wear daily and am very keen to get a RO 15450 however I'd have to give up the Sea Dweller! Currently, I likely cannot afford to keep both watches with other financial commitments on the horizon. Would you step it up on the basis that the AP would become an everyday watch (mostly an office job!)?

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by DGB

If you compare both watches side by side, you’ll see immediately the quality level of AP.
The finish, the bracelet catching the light, the movement are at a much high level than the Sub.

The strength of the Sub is with the brand Rolex, immediately recognisable, robust and reliable, excellent buy but not at twice the retail price IMO.

If I had to choose only one, it would be the Royal Oak.


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Completely agreed. Nothing is as recognisable as Rolex. Even the people who are not into watches know Rolex. AP - not really.

Originally Posted by abozz

Patek, AP, Vacheron and now Lange are Hight Horology, no doubt about it, but in my wrist always a Rolex watch, because my admiration for the brand is almost spiritual. I would love to have in my safe a Vacheron, Patek or AP, but in a daily bases My SD43.

I agreed with you than a AP in 25K and a Hulk in the same GRAY price is ridiculous!!!! A hulk is a 9K watch, period.

I enjoy your video very much.

Sd43 is a beautiful watch and that red lettering makes it very special too. Hulk is beautiful too but yeah, not at current prices.

Originally Posted by nick c

Not a big fan of the green sub, so Ap for the win win.

With you on this; although I do love hulk too

Originally Posted by ikincooper

First off, great video as usual!



Paying the same inflated prices for a Rolex over the AP to me would be crazy, I'd take the AP everyday. That said, I believe some experience with other brands first might help someone appreciate the AP more fully.



On to my potential dilemma...Ive currently got a Rolex SD4K which I wear daily and am very keen to get a RO 15450 however I'd have to give up the Sea Dweller! Currently, I likely cannot afford to keep both watches with other financial commitments on the horizon. Would you step it up on the basis that the AP would become an everyday watch (mostly an office job!)?

Very true. If you jump straight into AP; you won’t realise what is all the fine details you’re getting. You have to make your way taking every step through the brands so you appreciate horological ladder as you climb.

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i prefer the AP



However i would never compare the two head to head. I cant imagine a situation when it would be between those two watches as they are apples and oranges

I know. This comparison really is due to grey prices of Rolex hitting very close or surpassing AP prices. Not exactly for hulk as yet but panda Daytona.

Originally Posted by fjack88

Both beautiful and functional in their own way! Hope to had the chance to own an AP in the future! Great video by the way!


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Thanks so much. All the best - you won’t be disappointed when you acquire one.



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[Zkydweller]

Really great video, thank you

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[fsprow]

I had a RO but got frustrated with the ease of picking up scratches on what I treated as a dress watch. Also, the frequency and cost of service (and it’s convenience) was offputting. The ruggedness of the Rolex wins out for me though the finish of the AP is quite superior. I very much agree that the inflated gray market prices of many Rolex models is out of line with what I perceive as their “value”.

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by fsprow

I had a RO but got frustrated with the ease of picking up scratches on what I treated as a dress watch. Also, the frequency and cost of service (and it’s convenience) was offputting. The ruggedness of the Rolex wins out for me though the finish of the AP is quite superior. I very much agree that the inflated gray market prices of many Rolex models is out of line with what I perceive as their “value”.

Rolex is rugged I agree. But I’m not sure why were you getting scratches often. I’ve been wearing my APs for more than a year without any issues.

Originally Posted by Zkydweller

Really great video, thank you

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Thanks so much.


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[fsprow]

[QUOTE=Horolojust;9913704]Rolex is rugged I agree. But I’m not sure why were you getting scratches often. I’ve been wearing my APs for more than a year without any issues.


I guess I'm just less careful than I should be -- when I had the RO I was at a desk job too!

[PureCoconut]

Both timeless icons

[joyfultrade]

Beautiful!!

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by Clinkinfo

Sorry, but I don't agree. The other poster is definitly correct, the AP is not a sports watch, these are apples and oranges. No rotating bezel, tiny thin hands, thin case, there's nothing 'sports' about it. If it was an ap driver, it would be more direct.

And if detail differences can only really be seen under a loop, I'm a bit unsure if they are all that important.

Both really nice watches obviously, but I don't get the comparison.

Joined 8 years ago and this is the first post....

I need to know the story behind this.

[finestdealer]

It’s defin Ap

[andrewjoo7]

own both, rarely put on the 116610
gonna flip + $ for a PM or ROO

[Carry The Interest]

Wonderfully shot video and great commentary. Thanks for sharing.

I do agree with some in that it's tough to compare these watches. I would say both of these watches make for great additions to a particular collection but head to head they simply are not comparable.

[maxymax]

Originally Posted by Horolojust

The comparison is about people willing to pay more than two times the price for Rolex, which then enters the price category where you can buy AP, so why not.

You are entitled to your opinion mate, but truth is that they AP are sports watch, not dress.

Hi Hafiz, nice video!
However, your point above doesn't make sense now that given the availability of AP RO and it's after-market price. It's after-market price puts you in the Rolex PM class and I would rather go for Rolex PM any day, any time!

[liveralone]

Great comparison. Thanks for posting.

[Roli4life]

I recently was on the fence regarding the Daytona, and the ROC.

I was considering selling my Daytona to buya ROC, but in the end, The Daytona won due to its more rugged design (not A scratch magnet) , and as others have said the RO has a fragile movement comparatively.
Something else that was offputting was the manufactured modular chronograph in the AP. I know it is probably a fantastic work of art on the inside, but I prefer the tried and true Rolex 4130 in house more. I’m tough on my gear.

One more thing is history. The Rolex Daytona, and Rolex sports models In general, all seem to have been designed for a certain task. A tool for a spot/job, and since it was on the wrist of so many iconic people as they did those sports, or jobs, Rolex became more than just a good-looking time piece, but a time piece that has written its name in the history books. I think The stigma of owning such a piece Is alluring more people.

When a watch enthusiast looks at a Sea-Dweller may have thoughts of its design, and maybe the Comex days, Pepsi=PanAm, Daytona= racing Heritage!
AP on the other hand really only has one watch when it comes to popularity, and that is the RO, ROO; However, w/ AP you get a stylistic design that led to its fame, though very outside of the box when introduced. Also a very high level of attention to detail. Overall the watch is more cerebral, and carried out in an artisanal fashion, vs built for a task.

So two very different watches, built for two very different purposes. Luckily both tell time

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by Roli4life

I recently was on the fence regarding the Daytona, and the ROC.

I was considering selling my Daytona to buya ROC, but in the end, The Daytona won due to its more rugged design (not A scratch magnet) , and as others have said the RO has a fragile movement comparatively.
Something else that was offputting was the manufactured modular chronograph in the AP. I know it is probably a fantastic work of art on the inside, but I prefer the tried and true Rolex 4130 in house more. I’m tough on my gear.

One more thing is history. The Rolex Daytona, and Rolex sports models In general, all seem to have been designed for a certain task. A tool for a spot/job, and since it was on the wrist of so many iconic people as they did those sports, or jobs, Rolex became more than just a good-looking time piece, but a time piece that has written its name in the history books. I think The stigma of owning such a piece Is alluring more people.

When a watch enthusiast looks at a Sea-Dweller may have thoughts of its design, and maybe the Comex days, Pepsi=PanAm, Daytona= racing Heritage!
AP on the other hand really only has one watch when it comes to popularity, and that is the RO, ROO; However, w/ AP you get a stylistic design that led to its fame, though very outside of the box when introduced. Also a very high level of attention to detail. Overall the watch is more cerebral, and carried out in an artisanal fashion, vs built for a task.

So two very different watches, built for two very different purposes. Luckily both tell time

Thanks so much for sharing the details. And I agree; Rolex are better overall when it comes to day to day use. APs are good, but like you say, Rolex have stood the test of times and have proven to be actually the most reliable ones.

You can’t go wrong with Daytona so congrats on your choice :)
ROC not having in-house is also a little debatable contender.

Originally Posted by jasanimation

Great comparison. Thanks for posting.

Thanks so much for watching. :)


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[Jamie1111]

Didn’t watch the video but AP RO for sure.


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[Jamie1111]

Originally Posted by Xerxes77

Nothing new, AP another level
Thank you for your time!

^^^this^^^


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[jimmytamp]

Not a fan of Maxi/Super case, so AP is my vote...


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[Mlioon]

Having owned several of both brands, my opinion, for what it’s worth: I like the way AP looks better and there is something to be said about the way it makes you feel when it’s on your wrist. From a functionality view point, I have found Rolex to be much more comfortable and durable, AP scratches so easily. I have sold/traded a ROO 44 panda, AP Diver, and RO 41 for various Rolex models. I also do not like how if you are between link sizes in AP your only option is a horribly ugly 1.5 size link, or gain/lose weight. I think I’m going to give Patek a try in 2 years for my next milestone birthday.

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by joyfultrade

Beautiful!!

Thanks so much for watching :)

Originally Posted by PureCoconut

Both timeless icons

Indeed. Love them both and not flipping either

Originally Posted by Syed117

Joined 8 years ago and this is the first post....



I need to know the story behind this.

Ha ha. Good catch. I need to know too.

[QUOTE=fsprow;9913712]

Originally Posted by Horolojust

Rolex is rugged I agree. But I’m not sure why were you getting scratches often. I’ve been wearing my APs for more than a year without any issues.





I guess I'm just less careful than I should be -- when I had the RO I was at a desk job too!

I do the desk job too but I’m wearing mine even at house, cooking, washing dishes etc. But I’m very conscious and careful

Originally Posted by Carry The Interest

Wonderfully shot video and great commentary. Thanks for sharing.

I do agree with some in that it's tough to compare these watches. I would say both of these watches make for great additions to a particular collection but head to head they simply are not comparable.

Thanks so much for watching and the feedback. I agree; they don’t quite compare; it’s just the grey prices for Rolex that I was comparing.

Originally Posted by Jamie1111

Didn’t watch the video but AP RO for sure.


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Originally Posted by finestdealer

It’s defin Ap

For me too

Originally Posted by andrewjoo7

own both, rarely put on the 116610
gonna flip + $ for a PM or ROO

I don’t wear my LV either. But think I’ll keep it. Good luck. ROO is love.

I’m lusting 44mm camo.



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[finestdealer]

Ap for sure it’s awesome

[iheartrolexx]

had to go with the AP in this case

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by finestdealer

Ap for sure it’s awesome

Sure is. Thanks for watching

Originally Posted by iheartrolexx

had to go with the AP in this case

Never been a bad day with AP on



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[joyfultrade]

AP for sure.

[shawn13ca]

I really don't like AP. And it is true that it's really a watch you could see Dirk Diggler wearing in Boogie Nights! So 70's man, the King Midas and the Oysterquartz are in the same design category.... As for finish: Grand Seiko does better for way less money.

[Mike Jab]

Are you comparing the Sub (male's watch) to a 15450 (female's watch)?