Types of damage dial on Sub

[Kooteepee]

Hey guys , just got my sub 168000 and i couldnt be happier. While spider dial is very common for this production (1987), i have not seen anything like the stains on my dial. Anyone has relevant experience in such damage dial ?

[spoilsofwar01]

I'm no expert... however this looks like water marks condensation ? hopefully someone with more knowledge will be able to help, all the best "H"

[Gina Marie]

common flaw. poor dial production techniques. Looks good.

[Kooteepee]

Originally Posted by spoilsofwar01

I'm no expert... however this looks like water marks condensation ? hopefully someone with more knowledge will be able to help, all the best "H"

Thats my first impression but the dealer showed me a watch with real water stains and its slightly different . We cant be too sure though .. i read that during 87 production the dial technique was poor hence spider occured. I hope this stains r off the same reason

[alwayshere]

could just be fading no?

Have seen gloss dial have splotches like this before.

[Gina Marie]

Looks a Like a stardust dial. I have a spider dial the also has a similar stardust. I love the spidies on the trannies. Remember 15 years ago nobody liked the brown dials either. I think in time they will gain a following.

[c41006]

Interesting... I'm curious to see what the more knowledgeable say

[Vincent65]

Seen this a few times - I'd say moisture ingress at some low level is involved - with the lacquer surface. Maybe bad application, leading to 'lift-off' of lacquer so the faint bubbles appear...

[spoilsofwar01]

Originally Posted by Gina Marie

Looks a Like a stardust dial. I have a spider dial the also has a similar stardust. I love the spidies on the trannies. Remember 15 years ago nobody liked the brown dials either. I think in time they will gain a following.

errrrmmmm? can you advise / illustrate what "spidies on the trannies" is ??? I've never come across this before.

[MonBK]

Stardust, Spider it doesn't matter how many fancy names you invent it's still a damaged dial.

[alwayshere]

Originally Posted by spoilsofwar01

errrrmmmm? can you advise / illustrate what "spidies on the trannies" is ??? I've never come across this before.

he means spider dial on a transitional model.

I know, not a perfect phrase haha

[mountainjogger]

Damaged dial, but many 31 year old subs are. I would relax and enjoy it.

[mountainjogger]

And on the plus side, the dial and hands look original. I would rather have an original "damaged" dial, that the wrong dial or a poor re-dial. Just my opinion.

[SkyKing31]

Originally Posted by spoilsofwar01

errrrmmmm? can you advise / illustrate what "spidies on the trannies" is ??? I've never come across this before.

Are they any more valuable?

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by SkyKing31

Are they any more valuable?

The owners think so.

[SkyKing31]

Originally Posted by MonBK

The owners think so.

Those dials would drive me crazy with an imperfection like that .... If I'm paying a large amount of money for a luxury item, I want that luxury item to be perfect.

[Kooteepee]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

And on the plus side, the dial and hands look original. I would rather have an original "damaged" dial, that the wrong dial or a poor re-dial. Just my opinion.

My sentiments exactly, made very sure its all period correct as well. Im totally cool if its due to the poor lacquer work , especially for this period of production for 168000. It might add some unique appeal to the watch, one man's meat is another man'spoison.

However what really affects me would be the moist getting into the watch due to poor maintanence from previous owner. Anyone have thoughts on this ? I understand its possible to touch up on lume but is it possible to touch on dial if its due to moist damage.

[Kooteepee]

Originally Posted by SkyKing31

Are they any more valuable?

If it finds the right owner who appreciates the uniqueness of this damage , otherwise its a spoilt product. Hahah

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by Gina Marie

Looks a Like a stardust dial. I have a spider dial the also has a similar stardust. I love the spidies on the trannies. Remember 15 years ago nobody liked the brown dials either. I think in time they will gain a following.

To be sure, “Stardust” is simply a term applied by a dealer somewhere in an attempt to make a damaged dial sound alluring. It means nothing and tells you nothing about what kind of damage the dial suffered.

[spoilsofwar01]

Talking of Dials this was one I found lurking on an Auction site, I'm still unsure of attaching threads but I titled it Tudor Cheese / Evil Dead tribute Dial, if you happen to want to view this.....

so, another variation of a damaged dial.... or is it patina