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Old 23 March 2018, 12:23 PM   #91
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Quite a stunning picture and excellent job with the pushers!
Err…thanks?
Can’t take credit for the photo or the pushers placements, but I can take full credit for the beautiful red arrows pointing out their location!
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Old 23 March 2018, 12:45 PM   #92
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Yes if I were you

Very different complications to you existing nautilus
Thanks Ichiran. Really appreciate.
Yesterday my AD called asking me whether I would like to place an order.
Being a businessman, not that I intend to sell, I was wondering whether this watch would hold its value, what with it having a high price.
I would value your opinion on this, from a third party point of view.
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Old 23 March 2018, 01:02 PM   #93
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Thanks Ichiran. Really appreciate.
Yesterday my AD called asking me whether I would like to place an order.
Being a businessman, not that I intend to sell, I was wondering whether this watch would hold its value, what with it having a high price.
I would value your opinion on this, from a third party point of view.
This one is not easy to predict, due to the lack of production number, duration of production, and the high starting price. Perpetual calendar is usually not that strong in terms of resale value, but then again we are talking about a nautilus here.

Your 5711p is commanding a premium now because it is a 700 pc limited edition. The 5740/1G is not a limited series.

It could really go either way. Sorry I'm of not much help here, so I suggest you to buy it only if you really like the watch, and if you can stomach the loss if the value goes south

Or consider again 1 or 2 years later to see the effects. I believe your AD will still get you this watch given your strong relationship.
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Old 23 March 2018, 01:14 PM   #94
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This one is not easy to predict, due to the lack of production number, duration of production, and the high starting price. Perpetual calendar is usually not that strong in terms of resale value, but then again we are talking about a nautilus here.

Your 5711p is commanding a premium now because it is a 700 pc limited edition. The 5740/1G is not a limited series.

It could really go either way. Sorry I'm of not much help here, so I suggest you to buy it only if you really like the watch, and if you can stomach the loss if the value goes south

Or consider again 1 or 2 years later to see the effects. I believe your AD will still get you this watch given your strong relationship.

Thanks again Ichiran. Your views are absolutely right. Very fair and reasonable opinions and I thank you for that.
While writing this, my AD just apps me. He suggested I wait and see how the market reacts before deciding. Exactly what you have said.
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Old 23 March 2018, 02:13 PM   #95
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Now where’s the fun in that?
Get in early and enjoy being one of the first with it – sod the residual value, unless you know absolutely for sure that it’ll not stay in your possession for longer than 6-12 months.
Otherwise, just wear it and appreciate the silly grin it’ll put on your face when you check the time every 10 minutes!
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Old 23 March 2018, 02:19 PM   #96
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Now where’s the fun in that?
Get in early and enjoy being one of the first with it – sod the residual value, unless you know absolutely for sure that it’ll not stay in your possession for longer than 6-12 months.
Otherwise, just wear it and appreciate the silly grin it’ll put on your face when you check the time every 10 minutes!
I feel the same way when spending others money
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Old 23 March 2018, 02:34 PM   #97
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I feel the same way when spending others money
Lol yes....sign me up for some of that.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:28 PM   #98
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Thanks Ichiran. Really appreciate.
Yesterday my AD called asking me whether I would like to place an order.
Being a businessman, not that I intend to sell, I was wondering whether this watch would hold its value, what with it having a high price.
I would value your opinion on this, from a third party point of view.
IMO there is no way this watch will go for a discount on the secondary market. Will it command 5711 type premiums of nearly double, probably not because its starting out so high but i firmly believe the secondary premiums will be very healthy.

If you can get it, i would.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:51 PM   #99
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IMO there is no way this watch will go for a discount on the secondary market. Will it command 5711 type premiums of nearly double, probably not because its starting out so high but i firmly believe the secondary premiums will be very healthy.

If you can get it, i would.

Thanks Tyler.
I like the fact that this is the first time grand complications is offered with a Natilus.

I also like the blue dial. So I wait and see how the market reacts before deciding.


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Old 23 March 2018, 08:12 PM   #100
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Yes without a doubt!
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This watch is beautiful. If you have the 5976g or 5711p, would you get this?
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Old 23 March 2018, 11:06 PM   #101
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so nobody but me has issue with the missing seconds hand?
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Old 23 March 2018, 11:17 PM   #102
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Thanks Tyler.
I like the fact that this is the first time grand complications is offered with a Natilus.

I also like the blue dial. So I wait and see how the market reacts before deciding.


The problem with the wait and see approach is the watch will retain its highest value when you’re least likely to sell it - after you’ve just bought it, and will likely lose value as you get bored of it when there are more flooding the market plus newer models attracting interest.
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Old 24 March 2018, 12:20 AM   #103
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I would prefer one(seconds hand) but the absence of one is not a deal breaker.
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so nobody but me has issue with the missing seconds hand?
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Old 24 March 2018, 12:30 AM   #104
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Yes without a doubt!
Thanks. Lifted my doubts.
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Old 24 March 2018, 12:34 AM   #105
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The problem with the wait and see approach is the watch will retain its highest value when you’re least likely to sell it - after you’ve just bought it, and will likely lose value as you get bored of it when there are more flooding the market plus newer models attracting interest.
Thanks Marciano. Very true and well put.
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Old 24 March 2018, 12:51 AM   #106
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I am going out on that speculative limb again, the watch will even look more striking in person than the photos. I think it is another PP home run. I have never tired of that blue dial (5976)!
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Old 24 March 2018, 02:06 AM   #107
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Thanks Ichiran. Really appreciate.
Yesterday my AD called asking me whether I would like to place an order.
Being a businessman, not that I intend to sell, I was wondering whether this watch would hold its value, what with it having a high price.
I would value your opinion on this, from a third party point of view.
I think it will hold value but not sure any more than that. It is WG not plat which makes a difference and the 5711P was a bit of a mythical piece for years so it could sell for above its very high retail price, this one might be different even if supply is restricted. But enough buyers to make it a safe bet.
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Old 24 March 2018, 02:09 AM   #108
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I would prefer one(seconds hand) but the absence of one is not a deal breaker.
i agree with this. in fact, sometimes a second hand annoys me on non hacking movements
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Old 24 March 2018, 07:22 PM   #109
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I have been told that in Singapore and possibly worldwide, all Natilus would be sold by AD without any discounts.
1. Is this true?
2. Would the 5740g fall into this category, regardless of it being a new entrant and highly priced or is it too early to say?
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Old 24 March 2018, 08:55 PM   #110
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I have been told that in Singapore and possibly worldwide, all Natilus would be sold by AD without any discounts.
1. Is this true?
2. Would the 5740g fall into this category, regardless of it being a new entrant and highly priced or is it too early to say?
i suppose the AD's can discount, but not sure why they would. Maybe a 5712G or something, but even that is becoming increasingly unlikely given the current climate.

I would bet there is zero chance for a 5740G discount and still there will be people who cant get it as i cant imagine there will be a ton of them floating around.
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Old 24 March 2018, 09:23 PM   #111
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It will be interesting to see what approach Patek Philippe elect to take with respect to the production of the 5740/1G; based on their commentaries, it would appear that journalists have been briefed about the fact that some technical work was required to install the perpetual calendar complication in the Nautilus case, which I see as meaning there are research, development and production costs to be recouped. It is also noteworthy that Patek Philippe has seemingly not been enjoying tremendous sales success with its more complicated pieces of late, which are widely available and generally seem to be oversupplied based on current demand. As such, they may be tempted to alter their production mix away from other perpetual calendars in favour of this Nautilus-cased 5740/1G.
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:52 AM   #112
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Now where’s the fun in that?
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Otherwise, just wear it and appreciate the silly grin it’ll put on your face when you check the time every 10 minutes!
bingo...love looking back at some of the comments
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Old 20 November 2018, 08:47 AM   #113
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The Aquanaut chronograph is nice!!!
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