Rolex 16710 with 3186 Movement. Yes or No.

[slorollin]

Originally Posted by Speed

Crazy prices.

I have a lowly / but minty D Serial 3185...

I had a permanent link removed from my original oyster bracelet. I suppose someone would want to negotiate me down as a result. I also have a jubilee / B&P, tags etc...so I'd have to ponder what to sell the whole kit for.

Who am I kidding? I'm not selling! 😀

Yea verily! Watches are for buying, not selling. People selling their watches......hmmpf. What's the world coming to?

[thedave]

I realize this thread is a bit old, but can someone confirm - M/Z with 3186 doesn't exist with lug holes case, right? That's pretty important to me, more so than the movement, probably.

Edit: also, hi! This is apparently my first post on these forums :)

[sensui]

No lugholes. I think they were gone somewhere along y serial.

[thedave]

Originally Posted by sensui

No lugholes. I think they were gone somewhere along y serial.

Thanks!

[BrazenC5]

If you're a rolex freak, yes. iI you're not a rolex freak, no.

[firstOwatch]

Originally Posted by Rolex Freak

Thanks. It's nice to hear from someone that actually owns one. Good point on the investment vs just owing one.

Just enjoy wearing them ( GMT and Explorer II, both are M serial with 3186 movement )

[firstOwatch]

and the Explorer II, M serial with 3186 movement as well !

[firstOwatch]

Originally Posted by Robert993

For collector mentality, yes it's worth every penny!
For daily beater, NO! Hell NO!

why not
Watches meant to be worn !

[tubojunk]

16710 was the first luxury watch I purchased and just got "lucky" it had 3186. I purchased right before the ceramics came out and at the time of my purchase I don't think anyone even new 3186 was in the cases. Once the news broke I admit I immediately put this watch away and never wear it. It seemed to be a good decision as the watch has basically tripled in what I picked it up for.

With all that being said... Do I think the premium is worth it, absolutely not. The watch does the exact same thing as the old 3185. But if someone is willing to pay me $15k for it I would definitely consider unloading as I don't wear. I will admit I don't know watch appreciation in the least, but my intuition is that this watch won't hit much higher than this 15k threshold. Only time will tell though.

So if you just want to wear the watch, id get a 3185. If for investing just think do you think it's going to appreciate much more than 15k? I think it's always more likely price to go down then to go up. So I wouldn't invest at this point, but it's not my money.

[Oat Willy]

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

Hype or not...I've seen these 16710/ 3186s in the last few years go thru the roof. Agree or not, it was a great investment for me. The price seems to be only going in one direction...up! Either grab one now, or it seems get ready to pay even more down the road.

No one will care when the 3187 comes out

[alexxelor]

yes , do it...

my 16710 M extreme full set and nos condition...




view...

My Rolex latest series collection... NOS

[mschafer]

While the caliber is a great advancement, the current pricing is just overblown and shows where the market moved to after other "special" Rolex lines got overpriced. I think $1k is justified, beyond that it's silly money...But i'm happy theres a market for it and good sped to the sellers. cheers some more...

[Andad]

A Z8...... is in the range for a 3186 movement.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

To my knowledge, the only real difference between the 85 and 86 is the Parachrome spring?

Here is a parts list showing some of the 3186 parts that are new or not interchangeable with the 3185 movement.

Originally posted on TRF by TTmax (Christophe).

[Johmelan]

Not worth it. Crazy prices being asked right now. There's one going here for the equivalent of US$20,000 at the moment.

[Starwalker]

Originally Posted by travisb

I personally think the premiums being asked for the 3186 are flat out ridiculous but there's always some out there willing to pay.

x2!

[ronaldjohn123]

if alpino is right about the credit card certs then there is 2 or 3 16750 z series on the internet that had their guts swapped , not sure in reality that this would happen , a 3186 movement is the thick end of 2k then you need someone to fit it , then you need to be sure that someone will pay the premium , and then if that person does a paper chase, theirs always a possibility that the previous owner will know the watch had a 3185 movement when new , seems a lot of risks to gain 3k - 4k more ,and as someone else pointed out , rolex dont release any info on watches , so nothing can be proved , but it does make good reading .

[ronaldjohn123]

Sorry ment 167510
Ps , there is another doubt, Rolex are very twitchy about anything untoward, imagine myself trying to order a 3186 base plate and spring , they would know straight away what I was up to , and start asking questions , it would then force me into buying a full movement 2k , that would hurt.A couple of z6s on the internet are advertised having 3186 movements, with paper certificates , if these people did swap the movements then their taking a huge risk , putting them on the internet , there is a good chance the last owner would recognise the watch especially when the cert is there for everyone to see, yes I know they cover some of the later numbers but I'm sure someone would say that's my old watch , it had a 3185 movement in it not a 3186 and blow the whistle , who knows when 3186 movements went into 167510s I'm sure Rolex play games, they like to give their watches a element of mistque, and of course get people talking ,well they certainly have!

[Boaters]

Way to much money IMPO

[newmagic]

3186 came with 3 insert colors: coke, pepsi, and all black (extremely rare)

[newmagic]

Originally Posted by Rolex Freak

The price difference is a fair bit. Most D and Z serial's are going for around 6500-7200 and the 3186 is going for between 10-13k depending on the condition, how compete the set is and whether it's an original coke or pepsi bezel. There are two on eBay both without papers and they are asking 8500-9500.

3186 came with 3 insert colors: coke, pepsi, and all black (extremely rare)

[zesty55]

Originally Posted by dmitrii_

Also knowing that it is the last of the ss Pepsi's is kinda cool.

[alexxelor]

for me it's an important collector's item. different from the others 16710, caliber 3186, credit card , a latest series...