Help identify please....

[Rothstein1928]

Only number I can read inside case is 4x345 ?

Can anyone advise please ,

Model and age ?

Originality ?

Cheers

[Rothstein1928]

Interior

[offrdmania]

The blurry pictures dont help anything

[Tools]

early 50's Prince look-alike.

[Rothstein1928]

Hopefully these are clearer

[Rothstein1928]

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[Rothstein1928]

Nobody ?, anybody ?

Pretty please ......

[watch-guy.com]

movement looks strange for a start

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Rothstein1928

Nobody ?, anybody ?

Pretty please ......

You didn't like my answer ??

[Rothstein1928]

1950's ?, I was hoping for a way of dating it more accurately, and have been told 20's/30's ?

As for the movement looking "strange"......???

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by Rothstein1928

1950's ?, I was hoping for a way of dating it more accurately, and have been told 20's/30's ?

As for the movement looking "strange"......???

Take a pic of the markings inside the caseback and the back of the case back. The crown appears to have been replaced. Dials in poor condition. If I remember correctly this is similar to the old gruen movements. I'd imagine its late 30s or 40's. The caseback could possibly help us nail down a further date and potentially a model, although I doubt there is a specific reference.

[Rothstein1928]

Thank you !!!

Nothing inside hinged case other than the RWC logo and the numbers I listed
Mother of pearl dial is cracked yes
What type of crown should it have ?, a fatter one ?, and if so, where do I find one please

I simply like it because it's old and small !

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by Rothstein1928

Thank you !!!

Nothing inside hinged case other than the RWC logo and the numbers I listed
Mother of pearl dial is cracked yes
What type of crown should it have ?, a fatter one ?, and if so, where do I find one please

I simply like it because it's old and small !

I looked at it on my comp, probably an original, looked like SS on my phone, but I'm guessing the plating just wore off. And there's nothing on the back of the case back?

[Rothstein1928]

No numbers or markings on back

Should it have a crown more like this ?, what type is this designated ?

[offrdmania]

That movement looks strange, yes. The train bridge looks too squeeky clean compared to the rest of the movement that has oxidation from age. Also, Where it says Rolex on the ratchet wheel, that should be deeply engraved instead of printed black.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Rothstein1928

1950's ?, I was hoping for a way of dating it more accurately, and have been told 20's/30's ?

As for the movement looking "strange"......???

Rolex did begin making the Prince "Doctors Watch" back in the 20's.

However, your movement and dial fonts do not look like the typical Aegler built movement decorations used in a Rolex Prince, or even a Gruen curvex watch, which were sister watches.

Aegler made similar movements for other companies and so a drive gear and dial paint may not always indicate the actual maker of some watches.

In my view this watch would need "watch forensics" to arrive at any absolutes.

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by watch-guy.com

movement looks strange for a start

The bridge, that is signed Rolex, looks new. The other bridges appear oxidized, so it would appear to be replaced.
The Rolex signature on the winding wheel looks unlike any others that I have seen in reference books. It appears to have been put on recently.
The dial does not look correct for a watch of that era, I believe it is a redial.

And no photos of case to look for Rolex marks.
Given what is shown, I wouldn't buy it, and I am not very picky.
Just looks like a generic 30's watch that has had Rolex written all over it.

[Rothstein1928]

A genuine thank you to all !