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25 February 2018, 06:52 AM | #31 |
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Yes its possible, I mean it wouldn’t be the first Rolex with a ceramic bezel
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25 February 2018, 01:26 PM | #32 |
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The sapphire is protected by the steel bezel. It could still shatter from a direct hit, but glancing blows on the side of the case won't make direct contact with the crystal, and don't pose the same threat. A full ceramic bezel will be much more exposed to direct impacts and prone to damage. For desk cave divers, that probably isn't much of a threat, but for people who intend to use the watch for its stated purpose, it could be a problem.
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I'd be happy if they just got rid of the orange.
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There's was speculation in a recent thread that the GMT LN will be discontinued this year. While I doubt that will happen, if it does I could see the Explorer II getting a ceramic bezel, but not going back to 40mm.
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Yeah, 216570s have been a little soft on the used market, but it’s not like 16570s have shot up or anything. The Explorer II just doesn’t seem to be a big seller for Rolex. And I kind of get it. It’s a newer model relative to the Submariner, Explorer, and GMT, it doesn’t have the coolest story behind it (designed on the off chance some spelunkers wanted to use it versus being one of the first modern dive watches, a connection to the watch that climbed Everest, or being made at the behest of Pan Am), and it seems to appeal to the general public. I think there’s a reason Rolex made the Explorer II 42mm before it touched much else (sure, the DeepSea pre-dates the 42mm model, I believe, but the DeepSea was a new model and they kept the 40mm SD alongside it); the Explorer II seemed expendable compared to gambling with a 42mm Submariner or GMT. Seems to be doing well enough that they killed the 40mm Seadweller in favor of a larger size model, though. But time will tell if the SD43 has staying power.
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Given that the Explorer 42 is not as desirable as other SS models, would changing it increase value and demand on the current ones or would their value drop in favor of the new ones? I know this is all speculation but I am curious what you guys think since I am thinking of adding a polar to my collection soon. Sent from my SM-N9500 using Tapatalk |
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I owned the Exp II and moved it on because I marked the bezel and it stood out a mile. I really liked that watch but the bezel design was not great and for me it had to go.
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Brushed grey ceramic that matches the case could be pretty cool, IMO.
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Daytona didn't always have a steel bezel.
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Possibility for a Ceramic Explorer 2 216570
Plenty of watches out there w ceramic bezels that are not protected by a steel rim. The argument that it should not be done because one might break it going cave dwelling is a tad ridiculous in my book. I wouldn’t take my expII near rocks just because to me that is just idiotic but I do swim w it. Having a ceramic bezel would be cool because the SS bezel now is a scratch magnet and most exp II rarely leave the office
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They can do as they please all I am saying is that in my book a ceramic bezel would not change the appeal of a watch labeled “explorer” . It seems to me that the watch is meant for the outdoors so adding a ceramic bezel would fit right in as long as it does not rotate. Now if one wants to say historically it was always metal and should always remain metal then the same argument could be made toward the sub aluminium bezel insert. I see the ceramic bezel as simply an advancement of technology just like a silicon hairspring (except you can see it) and not as a way to dismiss your past history . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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The irony of this whole thread is that Rolex has shown zero inclination to put ceramic on an Explorer. We keep having these conversations every year because some guy with a blog and some Photoshop skills floats the idea as a possibility for no other reason than he thinks it would look cool. Even if the naysayers like me are right and Rolex never does it, we will still see these threads because every year represents another chance of it happening in the minds of those who desire it. |
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The last time Rolex showed the Explorer II anywhere near caves was decades ago. Today, it's an adventure's watch with a GMT function (not the original "heritage" day/night function, by the way). And I think that the majority of Rolex consumers would welcome a bezel that is more scratch resistant. I don't think that would be inconsistent with the watch's purpose (in over a decade, the number of busted ceramic inserts seen on this forum doesn't exceed 10). But, most importantly, I think the chance of a ceramic Exp II is close to 0.01%. |
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I could just as easily see the EXP II line being retired for a period of time.
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That is my take as well and also unlikely to occur . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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