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Submaster · 4 March 2018, 02:02 PM

So with the apparent discontinuation of the white gold BLRO, how do you think the future value of this piece will play out? Some say the piece didn’t sell well but there are now very desirable pieces that did not sell well and the production run for the BLRO was short compared with other modern pieces. On the flipside, steel professional pieces have historically been more collectible than PM and white gold resale values have been weak. Looking past the BLRO and perhaps to Basel in March, I find it hard to believe that Rolex would introduce another pepsi GMT in steel as this would alienate many BLRO buyers who paid much more for that piece in white gold because it was not available in steel. Seems like a bad marketing strategy for a conservative iconic brand. What seems more likely to me is a coke bezel white gold piece at Basel with a similar production run time as the BLRO with a new GMT with modified case and movement to follow after the two hommage to the past pieces have completed the run of the current GMT line.

henrylee · 4 March 2018, 02:12 PM

It Would be crazy if they make a Bakelite GMT coke. That would cause such a hype and would be the next Daytona.

topfuel25 · 4 March 2018, 02:23 PM

those BLRO owners would be pissed if a steel coke was released!

G.D.BeanCounter · 4 March 2018, 02:33 PM

I think the value will stay the same or decrease, so no need discussing it any longer and getting the speculators in an uproar to manufacture a lot of buzz and false demand... In fact, let's just ban all the 116719 BLRO talk for a while... well at least until after I can get my hands on one

Jim Smyth · 4 March 2018, 09:39 PM

May be a new market strategy for Rolex. Keep releasing new models in different trims every 4 or so years to keep demand and hype up there for special limited runs. Also creates a very limited watch for those that want to be different from the rest of the pack. A SS Pepsi would be cool and I dont think it would hurt the sales of the white gold model in the after market. Most people buy the WG for a reason and theres plenty of PM and SS watches that are the same exact model.

joli160 · 4 March 2018, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by topfuel25

those BLRO owners would be pissed if a steel coke was released!

And why would that be so ?
Quite recently I bought a PM SkyD whilst there are beautiful SS options available. Same for my PM Submariner.
Would not bother me in the least if the exact same model is available in SS.
Being fortunate enough to own a Rolex is special to me and having the possibility to buy a PM reference makes it a little more special for me.

travisb · 4 March 2018, 09:50 PM

I'd be shocked to see a SS Pepsi but look what they did with the Skydweller. If anything, a WG Coke would make sense and a lot of disappointment to follow.

MoosicPa · 4 March 2018, 10:33 PM

My prediction.... A Coke bezel in WG, and the Pepsi is released in platinum.

HL65 · 4 March 2018, 10:43 PM

Who knows what is unveiled next but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see another bicolor SS GMT to go along with the BLNR. Rolex has always had at least 2 bicolor SS options for GMT’s and currently they have 1.

piratepress · 5 March 2018, 12:58 AM

I hope if a new SS Coke or Pepsi is not unveiled at Basel that prices for the BLRO don't go through the roof. I'd like to pick one up.

kilyung · 5 March 2018, 01:00 AM

I’m certain of one thing - Rolex could care less about my feelings or alienating me when determining their product lineup. It’s all about the money.

brandrea · 5 March 2018, 01:01 AM

Exciting times ahead. I think a SS red/blue is quite possible given Rolex’s recent curveball pitches

RichM · 5 March 2018, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by topfuel25

those BLRO owners would be pissed if a steel coke was released!

I wouldn’t, nor would I sell my BLRO for one.

watchwatcher · 5 March 2018, 03:37 AM

Take a look at what they're going for now in the classifieds. And it's not even official.

Dr Greenthumb · 5 March 2018, 08:25 AM

Over the course of the last few decades Rolex have been following a steady strategy to move upmarket and make more profit from increased yield per piece, rather than quantity sold. Very limited supply (think SS sport models) and exclusivity in the form of complications like the ones in SkyDweller and YM2 are the key to that move, basically pushing sales of higher price level watches and PM pieces of a particular model range.

I doubt we will see any new SS GMT and instead a new TT option (Coke; Blueberry) or revised version of the BLRO in another PM. .. just my two cents.

Cheers

Joemck · 5 March 2018, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

I’m certain of one thing - Rolex could care less about my feelings or alienating me when determining their product lineup. It’s all about the money.

Still, if they would just listen to you about glidelock on pm pieces I’d be a happier ( and poorer man).

Roll the Lex · 5 March 2018, 02:24 PM

Owning one, obviously I wish the blro prices would skyrocket and be the next hot collectible Rolex. Realistically I'd imagine they will stay right where they are now roughly.

I would not be angry with a Coke or another Pepsi in any other metal. I love the bezel colors and love the WG. If you guys want a SS Pepsi with a "real" red/blue bezel, hope you guys get your wish this year- no hate here. If I wanted an investment piece, I would have gotten a 5711, a SS Daytona, a hulk, whatever. I like what I like... c'est la vie

rebel_1 · 5 March 2018, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roll the Lex

Owning one, obviously I wish the blro prices would skyrocket and be the next hot collectible Rolex. Realistically I'd imagine they will stay right where they are now roughly.

I would not be angry with a Coke or another Pepsi in any other metal. I love the bezel colors and love the WG. If you guys want a SS Pepsi with a "real" red/blue bezel, hope you guys get your wish this year- no hate here. If I wanted an investment piece, I would have gotten a 5711, a SS Daytona, a hulk, whatever. I like what I like... c'est la vie

I’m a far leaning PM Sports Rolex guy. I love my BLRO. If a SS version exist(ed) I’d still get the PM version. I’m always curious why WG Rolexes sell at such a huge discount.

joli160 · 5 March 2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rebel_1

I’m a far leaning PM Sports Rolex guy. I love my BLRO. If a SS version exist(ed) I’d still get the PM version. I’m always curious why WG Rolexes sell at such a huge discount.

Same here and I am glad they do discount, otherwise I would not be able to afford one

piratepress · 7 March 2018, 05:50 AM

They appear to be going fast now. Davidsw seems to be selling them as fast as he gets them in!

Jim Smyth · 7 March 2018, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by piratepress

They appear to be going fast now. Davidsw seems to be selling them as fast as he gets them in!

Yes he is.

piratepress · 7 March 2018, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Smyth

Yes he is.

Congrats!

piratepress · 8 March 2018, 03:34 AM

Davidsw just offered another new BLRO but it's $30K, roughly a $4K price hike over previous prices!

If this is the price going forward, looks like I may keep the BLNR. Granted, I like the BLRO but to me it's not 3x as good as my BLNR!

AK797 · 8 March 2018, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by piratepress

Davidsw just offered another new BLRO but it's $30K, roughly a $4K price hike over previous prices!

If this is the price going forward, looks like I may keep the BLNR. Granted, I like the BLRO but to me it's not 3x as good as my BLNR!

Price has been marked up higher than gold subs here too by Watchfinder, the UK Dsw equivalent, currently at $31.5K for 2016 model.

Jim Smyth · 8 March 2018, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Price has been marked up higher than gold subs here too by Watchfinder, the UK Dsw equivalent, currently at $31.5K for 2016 model.

Fully stickered is why. When I was there he told me he had one in back. But it was 5K more than a slightly used one which is what I went with instead.

123joule · 8 March 2018, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by piratepress

They appear to be going fast now. Davidsw seems to be selling them as fast as he gets them in!

Are they different watches? Seemed like I kept seeing him list the same warranty card dated late 2016 excellent condition BLRO three times in the last month, with the price going up $1K with each listing.

BerneyD · 8 March 2018, 04:51 AM

In Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) the large Rolex billboard is advertising the BLRO, seems odd that they would be promoting it so much if it was on its way out.

chicagonoob · 8 March 2018, 05:47 AM

I’m in the market as well, and have been watching prices climb over the past few weeks. At this point I think I’m going to take a wait-and see approach with what happens in Basel in a few weeks and make a decision at that point.

Jim Smyth · 8 March 2018, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 123joule

Are they different watches? Seemed like I kept seeing him list the same warranty card dated late 2016 excellent condition BLRO three times in the last month, with the price going up $1K with each listing.

I think he may use stock photos at times. Mine had a 2014 warranty card which was different from the for sale add which also stated 2016 in one add and showed 2014 on his web page. Impossible to tell the difference in watches or in person because they all looked brand new. That was somewhat important because now I own a watch with no warranty in essence since its a 2014. But he made it right money wise which I am not complaining about. I always get treated well with David.

MoosicPa · 8 March 2018, 06:37 AM

The market has definitely changed on these over the past couple of weeks. Before it was easy to find one from a grey dealer in the mid $20k range. Now most are asking >$30k for them. I wonder if availability at the ADs have changed? Back in January when I was looking for one I visited 3 ADs and all had at least one in stock and all offered a discount on the piece.

4 March 2018, 02:02 PM	#1
Submaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 12	116719BLRO and... So with the apparent discontinuation of the white gold BLRO, how do you think the future value of this piece will play out? Some say the piece didn’t sell well but there are now very desirable pieces that did not sell well and the production run for the BLRO was short compared with other modern pieces. On the flipside, steel professional pieces have historically been more collectible than PM and white gold resale values have been weak. Looking past the BLRO and perhaps to Basel in March, I find it hard to believe that Rolex would introduce another pepsi GMT in steel as this would alienate many BLRO buyers who paid much more for that piece in white gold because it was not available in steel. Seems like a bad marketing strategy for a conservative iconic brand. What seems more likely to me is a coke bezel white gold piece at Basel with a similar production run time as the BLRO with a new GMT with modified case and movement to follow after the two hommage to the past pieces have completed the run of the current GMT line.

4 March 2018, 02:12 PM	#2
henrylee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Socal/LA Watch: 116610LN Ceramic Posts: 3,214	It Would be crazy if they make a Bakelite GMT coke. That would cause such a hype and would be the next Daytona. __________________ ♛ Sub 116610LN 2011 ♛ GMT 126710BLNR 2021 ♛ GMT 126711CHNR 2020 ♛ Datejust 16233 X-series 1993 Ω Speedmaster Mitsukoshi 2019 č Cartier Tank w5200025 2021

4 March 2018, 10:43 PM	#9
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,397	Who knows what is unveiled next but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see another bicolor SS GMT to go along with the BLNR. Rolex has always had at least 2 bicolor SS options for GMT’s and currently they have 1. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

4 March 2018, 02:23 PM	#3
topfuel25 Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Hcm Posts: 217	those BLRO owners would be pissed if a steel coke was released!

4 March 2018, 02:33 PM	#4
G.D.BeanCounter Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Watch: Sky DayDate 2 Posts: 1,317	I think the value will stay the same or decrease, so no need discussing it any longer and getting the speculators in an uproar to manufacture a lot of buzz and false demand... In fact, let's just ban all the 116719 BLRO talk for a while... well at least until after I can get my hands on one

4 March 2018, 09:39 PM	#5
Jim Smyth Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Jim Smyth Location: Florida Watch: DD Posts: 1,842	May be a new market strategy for Rolex. Keep releasing new models in different trims every 4 or so years to keep demand and hype up there for special limited runs. Also creates a very limited watch for those that want to be different from the rest of the pack. A SS Pepsi would be cool and I dont think it would hurt the sales of the white gold model in the after market. Most people buy the WG for a reason and theres plenty of PM and SS watches that are the same exact model.

4 March 2018, 09:50 PM	#7
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,211	I'd be shocked to see a SS Pepsi but look what they did with the Skydweller. If anything, a WG Coke would make sense and a lot of disappointment to follow.

4 March 2018, 10:33 PM	#8
MoosicPa "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Don Location: Moosic PA Watch: King Midas & Subma Posts: 1,157	My prediction.... A Coke bezel in WG, and the Pepsi is released in platinum.

5 March 2018, 12:58 AM	#10
piratepress "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mobile, AL Watch: BLNR Posts: 744	I hope if a new SS Coke or Pepsi is not unveiled at Basel that prices for the BLRO don't go through the roof. I'd like to pick one up.

5 March 2018, 01:00 AM	#11
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	I’m certain of one thing - Rolex could care less about my feelings or alienating me when determining their product lineup. It’s all about the money.

5 March 2018, 01:01 AM	#12
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,666	Exciting times ahead. I think a SS red/blue is quite possible given Rolex’s recent curveball pitches

5 March 2018, 03:37 AM	#14
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,479	Take a look at what they're going for now in the classifieds. And it's not even official.

5 March 2018, 08:25 AM	#15
Dr Greenthumb "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: London Posts: 20	Over the course of the last few decades Rolex have been following a steady strategy to move upmarket and make more profit from increased yield per piece, rather than quantity sold. Very limited supply (think SS sport models) and exclusivity in the form of complications like the ones in SkyDweller and YM2 are the key to that move, basically pushing sales of higher price level watches and PM pieces of a particular model range. I doubt we will see any new SS GMT and instead a new TT option (Coke; Blueberry) or revised version of the BLRO in another PM. .. just my two cents. Cheers

5 March 2018, 02:24 PM	#17
Roll the Lex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,842	Owning one, obviously I wish the blro prices would skyrocket and be the next hot collectible Rolex. Realistically I'd imagine they will stay right where they are now roughly. I would not be angry with a Coke or another Pepsi in any other metal. I love the bezel colors and love the WG. If you guys want a SS Pepsi with a "real" red/blue bezel, hope you guys get your wish this year- no hate here. If I wanted an investment piece, I would have gotten a 5711, a SS Daytona, a hulk, whatever. I like what I like... c'est la vie

7 March 2018, 05:50 AM	#20
piratepress "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mobile, AL Watch: BLNR Posts: 744	They appear to be going fast now. Davidsw seems to be selling them as fast as he gets them in!

8 March 2018, 03:34 AM	#23
piratepress "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mobile, AL Watch: BLNR Posts: 744	Davidsw just offered another new BLRO but it's $30K, roughly a $4K price hike over previous prices! If this is the price going forward, looks like I may keep the BLNR. Granted, I like the BLRO but to me it's not 3x as good as my BLNR!

8 March 2018, 04:51 AM	#27
BerneyD "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Ventura, CA Watch: 114060 Posts: 28	In Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) the large Rolex billboard is advertising the BLRO, seems odd that they would be promoting it so much if it was on its way out.

8 March 2018, 05:47 AM	#28
chicagonoob "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Brian Location: SE Mitten Watch: ing with interest Posts: 170	I’m in the market as well, and have been watching prices climb over the past few weeks. At this point I think I’m going to take a wait-and see approach with what happens in Basel in a few weeks and make a decision at that point.

8 March 2018, 06:37 AM	#30
MoosicPa "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Don Location: Moosic PA Watch: King Midas & Subma Posts: 1,157	The market has definitely changed on these over the past couple of weeks. Before it was easy to find one from a grey dealer in the mid $20k range. Now most are asking >$30k for them. I wonder if availability at the ADs have changed? Back in January when I was looking for one I visited 3 ADs and all had at least one in stock and all offered a discount on the piece.

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