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lapince · 22 March 2018, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

Yes I know, there are manual winders as well.

http://www.buben-zorweg.com/en/colle...handwound.html

Wow didn’t know that existed, thanks Russ

though not sure I wouldn’t worry about putting a very expensive watch in it, I would be a little worried for sure, or wait 10 years to see if they didn’t have problems

lapince · 22 March 2018, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kittayos

For a moment, I prefer this 5270p to 5970p. Great dial. Perfect.

Not sure if Patek will again make black dial next year for the p version.

Could be wrong but don’t they only release the P models like 5270, 5970 or 5070 in only one dial?

Russell996 · 22 March 2018, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lapince

Wow didn’t know that existed, thanks Russ

though not sure I wouldn’t worry about putting a very expensive watch in it, I would be a little worried for sure, or wait 10 years to see if they didn’t have problems

Well I'm pretty sure Buben & Zorweg make the best quality winders so they will of done their homework. Of course running a watch continually will cause wear compared to not running it but then it depends how often you wear it and the effort/wear saved in not resetting the PC functions. I generally have my complications on a winder so would consider this winder as an option for such a piece.

jon_jon · 22 March 2018, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lapince

Could be wrong but don’t they only release the P models like 5270, 5970 or 5070 in only one dial?

I believe there were several dial variations for the 3970P. So it is conceivable that there would be different dial versions for the 5270P.

MrPorter_008 · 23 March 2018, 03:06 AM

Most beautiful release at Basel this year, simply perfect.

iceman1118 · 23 March 2018, 06:27 AM

Fantastic release. This might be the most beautiful release of Basel IMO

Xerxes77 · 23 March 2018, 07:03 AM

Very nice !

Vetracer · 23 March 2018, 08:42 AM

Can’t wait to see it in person. Do you imagine this will be hard to obtain?

Just checked the price. I might not be adding one to my collection any time soon.

Kittayos · 23 March 2018, 11:13 AM

If you are planning to buy, take a trip to Europe.

This model can't be such difficult to obtain compared to those nautilus models. You get a full 21% tax refund if the shop you purchase is willing to do the paper work for you, not through global blue or premier tax.

jschmidtdmd · 23 March 2018, 12:31 PM

This is by far my favorite release from the show. I have been considering a 5970 or 5270 for quite some time now, and I think this is going to make my decision easy!!!!

I added myself to a few lists for this and the new nautilus! I’m hopeful to add both, but if I have to pick one, it will be the 5270 salmon.

Borsika · 24 March 2018, 02:01 AM

It looks fab on pics but not sure it will look good on white pale skin as it is very similar to skin colour.

tyler1980 · 24 March 2018, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Borsika

It looks fab on pics but not sure it will look good on white pale skin as it is very similar to skin colour.

i like that. Im going to refer to my skin as "salmon" now.

Racerdj · 24 March 2018, 08:36 AM

kneedeep · 24 March 2018, 01:17 PM

Unsurpassed dial color and platinum can’t be beat. I prefer the look of the hour sticks on the R’s dial versus having 5 numerals on the P.

conkers · 24 March 2018, 03:28 PM

Wonderful. Having owned four versions of the 5270/5271 and two versions of the 5970 this I think is preferable to all the others even perhaps the epic 5970p. Looks like I will have two Patek incoming threads to post having had no Pateks for newrly two years - this one and another one that will require one of my silly teaser threads in the next two weeks or so. Watch this space.

nyc2la · 25 March 2018, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Wonderful. Having owned four versions of the 5270/5271 and two versions of the 5970 this I think is preferable to all the others even perhaps the epic 5970p. Looks like I will have two Patek incoming threads to post having had no Pateks for newrly two years - this one and another one that will require one of my silly teaser threads in the next two weeks or so. Watch this space.

Excellent! Congrats in advance and can’t wait to see both.

mps354 · 25 March 2018, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Wonderful. Having owned four versions of the 5270/5271 and two versions of the 5970 this I think is preferable to all the others even perhaps the epic 5970p. Looks like I will have two Patek incoming threads to post having had no Pateks for newrly two years - this one and another one that will require one of my silly teaser threads in the next two weeks or so. Watch this space.

This should be good!

Calatrava r · 26 March 2018, 10:12 AM

The way to enjoy this watch is to wear it when the mood suits you and not set or worry over the PC. if you can live with this, this is a watch you will keep forever. When you fuss over manual wind winders this watch will drive you nuts. If you never go anywhere and have a routine to wind your watches daily (like me) this is a perfect addition to your collection. As so many have said, manual wind PC? Sort of horse and buggy whip.

nyc2la · 26 March 2018, 11:39 AM

I’ve yet to see a picture of this watch to convince me this is not perfect.

conkers · 26 March 2018, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nyc2la

I’ve yet to see a picture of this watch to convince me this is not perfect.

Stephen the only question is buy immediately at full whack, or take the view that it may be available a fair bit cheaper down the line?

A genuine question, as this is my dilemma.

nyc2la · 26 March 2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Stephen the only question is buy immediately at full whack, or take the view that it may be available a fair bit cheaper down the line?

A genuine question, as this is my dilemma.

Precisely where I am! Will you miss it if you don’t get it now and it’s limited, as it appears it might be(maybe?)... If it’s a “forever” watch, then should it matter? The answers to these questions seem so obvious one moment, and not the other...

incontrol · 26 March 2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Stephen the only question is buy immediately at full whack, or take the view that it may be available a fair bit cheaper down the line?

A genuine question, as this is my dilemma.

Now there is an interesting thought. This adds some confusion to my thinking. As we all know, every AD will expect you to pay full MSRP FOR THIS BRAND NEW, gorgeous watch that is in high demand.

Congrats Roger on your incoming. Looking forward to it!

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sensui · 26 March 2018, 12:34 PM

Definitely planning to live vicariously through the new owners on this...not wanting to move some of my collection just to buy this....if I was old enough and considered slimming down collection to a couple pieces though...this would be on that list. Beautiful execution...just not baller enough to drop that kind of coin on a watch on a whim.

lapince · 26 March 2018, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

That is the European price. The US price will be much higher probably around 190,000 would be my guess. Remember the 5370g was quoted as being around 70,000 USD from the Basel price in CHF at the fair but came in at 82K in the US.

5370G? It exists only in P and costs 228k, not sure which watch you are thinking of but not this reference

Marciano490 · 26 March 2018, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lapince

5370G? It exists only in P and costs 228k, not sure which watch you are thinking of but not this reference

Must mean 5930g.

AK797 · 26 March 2018, 11:53 PM

The one thing that could be improved with this judging by the pics and vids is the depth of colour of the salmon. It looks a bit on the pale side and almost yellowish at times, and much like an AP RO I nearly bought on the spot, instead of a 5164 I had gone in to see, but for this similar pale salmon colour. Guess I like my salmon more smoked than poached.

tyler1980 · 27 March 2018, 12:01 AM

FWIW Karl says the dial isnt really salmon...on IG

Calatrava r · 27 March 2018, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

5370G? It exists only in P and costs 228k, not sure which watch you are thinking of but not this reference

Thanks I miss-spoke. I meant the 5320G. The new PC.

Calatrava r · 27 March 2018, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

FWIW Karl says the dial isnt really salmon...on IG

What is it then? Too pinkish? I have not really seen good photos in good lighting. The photos I have scene make the dial look a tad dark.

tyler1980 · 27 March 2018, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

What is it then? Too pinkish? I have not really seen good photos in good lighting. The photos I have scene make the dial look a tad dark.

very old salmon... not fresh

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgxl-srB...-by=karlstumke

23 March 2018, 12:31 PM	#70
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conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,994	Wonderful. Having owned four versions of the 5270/5271 and two versions of the 5970 this I think is preferable to all the others even perhaps the epic 5970p. Looks like I will have two Patek incoming threads to post having had no Pateks for newrly two years - this one and another one that will require one of my silly teaser threads in the next two weeks or so. Watch this space. __________________ IG: @conkers1971 Revolution Video Feature: https://www.revolution.watch/collect...f-conkers1971/

26 March 2018, 11:39 AM	#79
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,176	I’ve yet to see a picture of this watch to convince me this is not perfect. __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

23 March 2018, 03:06 AM	#65
MrPorter_008 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: California Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 265	Most beautiful release at Basel this year, simply perfect.

23 March 2018, 06:27 AM	#66
iceman1118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 57	Fantastic release. This might be the most beautiful release of Basel IMO

23 March 2018, 07:03 AM	#67
Xerxes77 Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Home! Posts: 3,307	Very nice !

23 March 2018, 08:42 AM	#68
Vetracer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: Vetracer Location: London Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 577	Can’t wait to see it in person. Do you imagine this will be hard to obtain? Just checked the price. I might not be adding one to my collection any time soon.

23 March 2018, 11:13 AM	#69
Kittayos "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Bkk Posts: 308	If you are planning to buy, take a trip to Europe. This model can't be such difficult to obtain compared to those nautilus models. You get a full 21% tax refund if the shop you purchase is willing to do the paper work for you, not through global blue or premier tax.

24 March 2018, 02:01 AM	#71
Borsika Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: EUROPE Posts: 88	It looks fab on pics but not sure it will look good on white pale skin as it is very similar to skin colour.

26 March 2018, 10:12 AM	#78
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,580	The way to enjoy this watch is to wear it when the mood suits you and not set or worry over the PC. if you can live with this, this is a watch you will keep forever. When you fuss over manual wind winders this watch will drive you nuts. If you never go anywhere and have a routine to wind your watches daily (like me) this is a perfect addition to your collection. As so many have said, manual wind PC? Sort of horse and buggy whip.

26 March 2018, 12:34 PM	#83
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,356	Definitely planning to live vicariously through the new owners on this...not wanting to move some of my collection just to buy this....if I was old enough and considered slimming down collection to a couple pieces though...this would be on that list. Beautiful execution...just not baller enough to drop that kind of coin on a watch on a whim.

26 March 2018, 11:53 PM	#86
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	The one thing that could be improved with this judging by the pics and vids is the depth of colour of the salmon. It looks a bit on the pale side and almost yellowish at times, and much like an AP RO I nearly bought on the spot, instead of a 5164 I had gone in to see, but for this similar pale salmon colour. Guess I like my salmon more smoked than poached.

27 March 2018, 12:01 AM	#87
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