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themast · 23 March 2018, 06:01 AM

I was curious to compare the differences between the case design of the new 126710BLRO vs the 116710LN.
So I did some photoshopping to compare the two watches.
Images are taken straight from Rolex.com and were not resized when I created the overlays.
I would venture out and say that I can see how the BLRO lugs are a tiny bit narrower but that is really not much in my opinion.

GMT COMP_Summary.png

Since I was at it, I also made a mockup of what I believe will become the 126710LN next year or the following.

GMT COMP_3.png

What do you think?

Lordofrolex · 23 March 2018, 06:05 AM

I think they'll come out with an LN but on a jubilee as well.

themast · 23 March 2018, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

I think they'll come out with an LN but on a jubilee as well.

Yeah, eventually we will have Jubilee and Oyster options for the GMT IIc I would guess (and hope). Perhaps with the introduction of a new clasp.

myporsche · 23 March 2018, 06:24 AM

OMG a COKE!!

Jim Smyth · 23 March 2018, 06:39 AM

themast · 23 March 2018, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myporsche

OMG a COKE!!

Ah, that was an unintentional consequence of the chimera that I created.

The question is: do you see a difference in the case design?

From Rolex.com
GMT_ROlex_text.JPG

4BostonB · 23 March 2018, 06:51 AM

Thanks for putting together the comparison - I spent like 15 minutes yesterday trying to figure out what the difference was and how they redesigned it. I'm guessing that the changes are related to the jubilee, either to prevent an oyster bracelet from fitting, or because the dimensions need to be different in order for it to fit correctly.

It looks like the crown guards might be a little bit bigger on the BLRO, no? Tough to tell based on the CGI models from the site - it'll be good to look at a picture of the two models next to one another.

Do you guys think it's weird that the 116710LN isn't getting the new movement this year? I figured they'd update the whole line to include the better power reserve, not just the new color. Kind of seems like an odd choice.

904VT · 23 March 2018, 06:54 AM

I think we'll see a LN on Oyster with Red GMT (similar to your mockup), the BLRO will remain an exclusive on Jubilee in SS and the next gen WG model (replacing the 3186 BLRO will be a WG Coke 126719 RONR with cherry red bezel)

Thanks for taking time to put together

myporsche · 23 March 2018, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themast

Ah, that was an unintentional consequence of the chimera that I created.

The question is: do you see a difference in the case design?

From Rolex.com
Attachment 937345

Going back to your original intent and answering your current question no I do not see a difference in your pictures nor the live pics I have seen so far. The lug change I think is disguised as a new feature but it was really made to accommodate the proprietary bracelet. Rolex don't want oyster on this watch, then the BLRO owners will really lose it!

themast · 23 March 2018, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myporsche

Going back to your original intent and answering your current question no I do not see a difference in your pictures nor the live pics I have seen so far. The lug change I think is disguised as a new feature but it was really made to accommodate the proprietary bracelet. Rolex don't want oyster on this watch, then the BLRO owners will really lose it!

Quite frankly the idea of buying watches for their monetary value is difficult for me to comprehend. If I was a fortunate enough to have purchased a WG BRLO this new release would not bother me in the least. But unfortunately Rolex and PP have become investments and many buy them with that expectation.

Now back on topic, I hope Rolex will introduce an Oyster bracelet for the 126710 and let customers pick which dial/bezel/bracelet combination they prefer. Too easy?

lecorsaire · 23 March 2018, 07:11 AM

The MK1 WG BLRO will remain a desirable watch for many. A SS version won’t change that even though it has the same ceramic bezel. Now if people bought the BLRO just for the bezel that’s a different story. If people bought it because it’s a WG GMT then I don’t see why anyone should be upset. There’s a huge difference in feel between gold and SS.

Now if people are only concerned that people recognize their WG gold as gold then why are you buying WG in the first place? It’s supposed to be an understated choice. If you’re looking for recognition than buy YG or RG from now on. No one will mistake it for steel.

jets · 23 March 2018, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themast

Since I was at it, I also made a mockup of what I believe will become the 126710LN next year or the following.

Attachment 937336

What do you think?

See that I'd buy today and be happy. That green hand ruins the LN for me.

rmlovett1 · 23 March 2018, 07:32 AM

Old vs new

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themast · 23 March 2018, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jets

See that I'd buy today and be happy. That green hand ruins the LN for me.

Interestingly, I do no like green too much and I love blue... but I still opted for the LN over the BLRN when I purchased my GMT IIC. It is difficult to provide a rational explanation but for some reasons I like the subtle green accent on the watch. Go figure!

jeffgo888 · 23 March 2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Richris1

Old vs new

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i dont care old or new..i want them BOTH!!....lol
they are so desirable...very solid looking

G.D.BeanCounter · 23 March 2018, 08:47 AM

I would think there's a possibility of seeing a TT on Jubilee next year, but doesn't Rolex typically do the PM variations before the SS, as they did with the DJ41? Would be a nice transition into the Rootbeer.

thomaswentworth · 23 March 2018, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

I think they'll come out with an LN but on a jubilee as well.

This is what I am thinking... Differentiation by means of the jubilee with continue for the GMT. I know the CHNRs don't have the jubilee... yet... and maybe they won't... maybe Rolex doesn't like the strength of the smaller inner links and want to avoid stretch down the road on PM versions.

But my guess is that the SS versions of the GMT will all get converted to jubilees. Just a guess... not an an offer to place a wager.

thomaswentworth · 23 March 2018, 08:47 AM

BTW... OP... Great photoshopping. Love it!

themast · 23 March 2018, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomaswentworth

BTW... OP... Great photoshopping. Love it!

Thanks! It was done on the fly... so it is not very polished but I think it shows the point that any redesign was minor and probably oriented at making the current Oyster not compatible with the new reference.

faz · 23 March 2018, 09:33 AM

Good job putting the two together, OP.

thanks for the efforts.

Speed · 23 March 2018, 09:58 AM

The lugs are the same.

Wimpydailo · 23 March 2018, 10:08 AM

I wonder if the new DJ oyster bracelet will fit the SS gmt blro

lucevan le stelle · 23 March 2018, 10:13 AM

Interesting. Think you will see new Bezel and movement models instead of upgrades of the current Black and Black-Blue GMTs once they have used up remaining production on the older movements.

GradyPhilpott · 23 March 2018, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wimpydailo

I wonder if the new DJ oyster bracelet will fit the SS gmt blro

The word from Basel is that the SSBLRO will not accommodate the Oyster bracelet from a DJ.

lhawli · 23 March 2018, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themast

Yeah, eventually we will have Jubilee and Oyster options for the GMT IIc I would guess (and hope). Perhaps with the introduction of a new clasp.

And the BLNR? I presume they would discontinue...

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lhawli · 23 March 2018, 10:30 AM

My view is the changes are soo subtle, we’re having a hard time even on a side by side comparison, let alone on someone’s wrist! Bottom line is we still have a maxi case.

If I had to guess, the main difference is the spring bar holes repositioned so that you can put the Oyster bracelet on it.

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themast · 23 March 2018, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lhawli

If I had to guess, the main difference is the spring bar holes repositioned so that you can not [themast insert] put the Oyster bracelet on it.

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Now that I think about it, this could also be so that they will release a new Oyster bracelet later on and with this change they will make the new bracelets (the now released Jubilee and the new potential Oyster) only fit on the new watches.

FTX I · 23 March 2018, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themast

Thanks! It was done on the fly... so it is not very polished but I think it shows the point that any redesign was minor and probably oriented at making the current Oyster not compatible with the new reference.

They may have just moved the inside spring bar holes closer to the case to accommodate the weird end links and called it new design. But I hope it's not just that.

stainlesssteve · 23 March 2018, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themast

I was curious to compare the differences between the case design of the new 126710BLRO vs the 116710LN.
So I did some photoshopping to compare the two watches.
Images are taken straight from Rolex.com and were not resized when I created the overlays.
I would venture out and say that I can see how the BLRO lugs are a tiny bit narrower but that is really not much in my opinion.

Attachment 937334

Since I was at it, I also made a mockup of what I believe will become the 126710LN next year or the following.

Attachment 937336

What do you think?

THIS is what I want. I don't want a Pepsi with funky colors. I don't want a jubilee. I just want the red GMT hand for my black bezel GMT. Any chance I could get the hand and the dial from a BLRO and have it swapped? Anyone done this?

jrs146 · 23 March 2018, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myporsche

Going back to your original intent and answering your current question no I do not see a difference in your pictures nor the live pics I have seen so far. The lug change I think is disguised as a new feature but it was really made to accommodate the proprietary bracelet. Rolex don't want oyster on this watch, then the BLRO owners will really lose it!

This ^^^^

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23 March 2018, 06:01 AM	#1
themast "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: US Posts: 2,704	GMT IIC 126710BLRO vs 116710LN I was curious to compare the differences between the case design of the new 126710BLRO vs the 116710LN. So I did some photoshopping to compare the two watches. Images are taken straight from Rolex.com and were not resized when I created the overlays. I would venture out and say that I can see how the BLRO lugs are a tiny bit narrower but that is really not much in my opinion. GMT COMP_Summary.png Since I was at it, I also made a mockup of what I believe will become the 126710LN next year or the following. GMT COMP_3.png What do you think?

23 March 2018, 06:05 AM	#2
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	I think they'll come out with an LN but on a jubilee as well. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

23 March 2018, 07:11 AM	#11
lecorsaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,541	The MK1 WG BLRO will remain a desirable watch for many. A SS version won’t change that even though it has the same ceramic bezel. Now if people bought the BLRO just for the bezel that’s a different story. If people bought it because it’s a WG GMT then I don’t see why anyone should be upset. There’s a huge difference in feel between gold and SS. Now if people are only concerned that people recognize their WG gold as gold then why are you buying WG in the first place? It’s supposed to be an understated choice. If you’re looking for recognition than buy YG or RG from now on. No one will mistake it for steel. __________________ Rolex 116710 BLNR Rolex Day Date 118238 Champagne/Batons

23 March 2018, 09:33 AM	#20
faz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Faz Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: like'em all Posts: 4,655	Good job putting the two together, OP. thanks for the efforts. __________________ -Faz Instagram @fazmoto

23 March 2018, 10:30 AM	#26
lhawli "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 1,256	GMT IIC 126710BLRO vs 116710LN My view is the changes are soo subtle, we’re having a hard time even on a side by side comparison, let alone on someone’s wrist! Bottom line is we still have a maxi case. If I had to guess, the main difference is the spring bar holes repositioned so that you can put the Oyster bracelet on it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ AP Royal Oak [15400ST.01] Rolex DateJust 41 [126334] Rolex Submariner Date [116610LV] Rolex GMT Master II [116710BLNR] Rolex Cosmograph Daytona [116500LN]

23 March 2018, 06:24 AM	#4
myporsche "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: LA<>NY Watch: Rolex♠Lange Posts: 2,277	OMG a COKE!!

23 March 2018, 06:51 AM	#7
4BostonB "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Boston Watch: 116710LN Posts: 196	Thanks for putting together the comparison - I spent like 15 minutes yesterday trying to figure out what the difference was and how they redesigned it. I'm guessing that the changes are related to the jubilee, either to prevent an oyster bracelet from fitting, or because the dimensions need to be different in order for it to fit correctly. It looks like the crown guards might be a little bit bigger on the BLRO, no? Tough to tell based on the CGI models from the site - it'll be good to look at a picture of the two models next to one another. Do you guys think it's weird that the 116710LN isn't getting the new movement this year? I figured they'd update the whole line to include the better power reserve, not just the new color. Kind of seems like an odd choice.

23 March 2018, 06:54 AM	#8
904VT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: All Rolex Posts: 6,976	I think we'll see a LN on Oyster with Red GMT (similar to your mockup), the BLRO will remain an exclusive on Jubilee in SS and the next gen WG model (replacing the 3186 BLRO will be a WG Coke 126719 RONR with cherry red bezel) Thanks for taking time to put together

23 March 2018, 07:32 AM	#13
rmlovett1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 22,477	Old vs new Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

23 March 2018, 08:47 AM	#16
G.D.BeanCounter Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Watch: Sky DayDate 2 Posts: 1,317	I would think there's a possibility of seeing a TT on Jubilee next year, but doesn't Rolex typically do the PM variations before the SS, as they did with the DJ41? Would be a nice transition into the Rootbeer.

23 March 2018, 08:47 AM	#18
thomaswentworth Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Tom Wentworth Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116610 Sub Posts: 541	BTW... OP... Great photoshopping. Love it!

23 March 2018, 09:58 AM	#21
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	The lugs are the same.

23 March 2018, 10:08 AM	#22
Wimpydailo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: California Posts: 86	I wonder if the new DJ oyster bracelet will fit the SS gmt blro

23 March 2018, 10:13 AM	#23
lucevan le stelle "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: garden state Posts: 522	Interesting. Think you will see new Bezel and movement models instead of upgrades of the current Black and Black-Blue GMTs once they have used up remaining production on the older movements.

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