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Old 27 January 2022, 04:58 AM   #181
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Can someone tell me what are the obvious differences between the 15202st and the 16202st other than the movement. I honestly can’t see any difference??
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Old 27 January 2022, 05:09 AM   #182
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Can someone tell me what are the obvious differences between the 15202st and the 16202st other than the movement. I honestly can’t see any difference??
Date window is moved half of mm to the edge of the dial... so basically nothing changed...
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Old 27 January 2022, 05:10 AM   #183
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Can someone tell me what are the obvious differences between the 15202st and the 16202st other than the movement. I honestly can’t see any difference??
read Hodinkee and this article https://revolutionwatch.com/introduc...ry-collection/
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Old 27 January 2022, 05:17 AM   #184
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No upper case "AP" on the dial of the 37mm looks weird to me
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Old 27 January 2022, 05:20 AM   #185
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Yeah just read them, thanks. But for someone simply looking at the picture it is impossible to spot major differences (may be not even minor).
It is a beautiful watch regardless but was expecting more from AP.


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Old 27 January 2022, 05:43 AM   #186
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Old 27 January 2022, 05:44 AM   #187
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90k for openworked jumbo in steel!! ��������
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Old 27 January 2022, 05:54 AM   #188
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There are also a few new Codes on the site:

Code 11.59 Perpetual Calendar in white gold: 26394BC.OO.D027KB.01
Code 11.59 Pave Diamond 3-handers: 15210BC.ZZ.D013VE.01 and 15210OR.ZZ.D300VE.01
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Old 27 January 2022, 05:57 AM   #189
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AP website now updated
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:13 AM   #190
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Looks like the Uk site has updated now too.
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:17 AM   #191
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Yeah just read them, thanks. But for someone simply looking at the picture it is impossible to spot major differences (may be not even minor).
It is a beautiful watch regardless but was expecting more from AP.
Isn't the blue also a (microscopically) different shade? Other than changing the movement, what else could/should they have done? Only other acceptable "major" change would have been to go back to the monobloc case. They already have the 15500 for a more modern take on the same idea.
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:18 AM   #192
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US site not updated yet. I can't believe they are charging like a 60k premium for open working the same watch. Is the 41mm blue chronograph a different shade of blue than the current one with gold sub dials? It looks like a darker shade of blue similar to the 15202 blue.
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:21 AM   #193
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US site not updated yet. I can't believe they are charging like a 60k premium for open working the same watch. Is the 41mm blue chronograph a different shade of blue than the current one with gold sub dials? It looks like a darker shade of blue similar to the 15202 blue.
Open the site in an incognito or private tab. New site is live in the US, you're probably seeing a cached version stored locally on your device
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:27 AM   #194
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No upper case "AP" on the dial of the 37mm looks weird to me
True. New 37mm dial looks horrendous. I also like the prior seconds hand better.

I sincerely hope they got some 15450s stashed away somewhere in Le Brassus and I can get my boutique to sell me the silver 15450 I've been waiting for instead of the new one. Welcome reduction in thickness though...

Still hope they'll allocate one of the last 15450s to me...
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:28 AM   #195
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I believe all the blue dials launched this year will be the same color. AP has named this color “Bleu Nuit, Nuage 50”
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:29 AM   #196
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US site not updated yet. I can't believe they are charging like a 60k premium for open working the same watch. Is the 41mm blue chronograph a different shade of blue than the current one with gold sub dials? It looks like a darker shade of blue similar to the 15202 blue.
Definitely a new Blue dial shade for the ROC and the Khaki is beautiful too.
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:33 AM   #197
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Definitely a new Blue dial shade for the ROC and the Khaki is beautiful too.
I wonder how different the blue is versus the older 26320ST. And of course compared to the current 26572ST 03?
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:40 AM   #198
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Definitely a new Blue dial shade for the ROC and the Khaki is beautiful too.
Tiffany blue and Hulk green, who would have thought they would have any influence?

Still they look decent.
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Old 27 January 2022, 06:44 AM   #199
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here she is...

- new colors, new movement, 50th anniv rotor

aside from classic blue dial, that rose gold/smoked grey is killer

good luck to everyone trying to scoop!

Wonder if that grey dial is a shout out to all those hardworking greys out there.
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Old 27 January 2022, 07:05 AM   #200
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I wonder how different the blue is versus the older 26320ST. And of course compared to the current 26572ST 03?
Looking on line I’d suggest the blue 50th dial is maybe a little darker than the older 26320….but need to see in the flesh to be sure.

Two other quick observations on the new ROC range…..for the Uk it’s the same retail price for steel models at £28,500 which given the significant upgrades over the 26331 makes it a very compelling option.

Also the new White dial ROC looks awfully washed out with no contrasting sub dials unlike the prior 26331ST “Panda”…..or the delightful blue sub dials on the 26315ST.
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Old 27 January 2022, 07:14 AM   #201
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Looking on line I’d suggest the blue 50th dial is maybe a little darker than the older 26320….but need to see in the flesh to be sure.

Two other quick observations on the new ROC range…..for the Uk it’s the same retail price for steel models at £28,500 which given the significant upgrades over the 26331 makes it a very compelling option.

Also the new White dial ROC looks awfully washed out with no contrasting sub dials unlike the prior 26331ST “Panda”…..or the delightful blue sub dials on the 26315ST.
Are the 26315's discontinued now that there's new 38mm chronos?
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Old 27 January 2022, 07:31 AM   #202
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What is the story with the bracelet taper? It looks a lot narrower now especially on the 37/38mm models which I am not sure needed a narrower bracelet
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Old 27 January 2022, 07:33 AM   #203
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Are the 26315's discontinued now that there's new 38mm chronos?
Still on line as far as I can see.
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Old 27 January 2022, 07:48 AM   #204
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Not a fan of 39mm openwork... and any ap with writing on the crystal...

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Old 27 January 2022, 07:49 AM   #205
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Not a fan of 39mm openwork... and any ap with writing on the crystal...

The gold version is just yum!!!
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Old 27 January 2022, 07:52 AM   #206
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Old 27 January 2022, 07:55 AM   #207
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Not a fan of 39mm openwork... and any ap with writing on the crystal...
Yeah, does not leapfrog the 15407. That open worked flying tourbillon though…
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Old 27 January 2022, 08:01 AM   #208
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Still on line as far as I can see.
all of the "past models" are online though as well...IE the 15202's and old 37mms
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Old 27 January 2022, 08:28 AM   #209
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Can someone explain to me why they would remove the AP logo from the dial?


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Old 27 January 2022, 08:32 AM   #210
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Not a fan of 39mm openwork... and any ap with writing on the crystal...


Totally agree. The pricing is rich although I kind of get it, new movement, more inward angles / anglage. That said, QP and Double Balance are still the skeleton kings


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