the Coronavirus outbreak thread

[037]

Originally Posted by Yoda_Eating_Pizza

What will this mean for the 2020 summer Olympics in Tokyo?

I'm guessing no Hockey or Curling.





Trying to lighten the mood in here.

[Randy63]

Originally Posted by tadbart

And, let's be honest- It isn't our best and brightest who are breeding like bunny rabbits. No, it's the societal leeches. We are at a tipping point- too many suckers, not enough teats.

This is the truth.

[Laszlo]

I think the Olympics is going to be a binary decision only. If this persists they will be cancelled.

[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by tadbart

And, let's be honest- It isn't our best and brightest who are breeding like bunny rabbits. No, it's the societal leeches. We are at a tipping point- too many suckers, not enough teats.

This is true. Also in poor countries where people have little to no access to health care or nourishment.


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[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by GB-man

This thread is dark AF

I need a beer

Unfortunately the US CDC essentially admits the virus cannot be contained.

The issue is that it so easily spread and people who aren't symptomatic in the least can be super spreaders leaving a trail of infection in their wake...and they don't even know it.

So there will be a lot of sickness and massive strain on the healthcare network.

It will be interesting to see how quarantines and such are handled in western countries as China is completely different. The population is conditioned to 100% comply with governmental orders, so they do so. People in the west may have a different attitude towards that....hopefully we don't have to find out.

I think instead of panicking (extreme #1) or dismissively marginalizing the threat (extreme #2)....Prepare to have easy access to food and supplies be constrained. Either get ready or you might wish you did.

[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by GB-man

This thread is dark AF

I need a beer

It IS dark. Who would have thought we would be discussing this 6 months ago?


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[Laszlo]

So today’s numbers out of China just got published. Deaths have declined dramatically to just 52. New cases also down to 406. This is very encouraging. The WHO did say it had peaked around February 2nd. Maybe we are going to be okay.

[Derbyshere]

A book written in 1981 by Dean Koontz titled THE EYES OF DARKNESS predicted this corona virus to occur in 2020. It was named wuhan 400 in the book.


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[bayerische]

Originally Posted by GB-man

This thread is dark AF

I need a beer

Agree, I need coffee.

[bayerische]

Originally Posted by Derbyshere

A book written in 1981 by Dean Koontz titled THE EYES OF DARKNESS predicted this corona virus to occur in 2020. It was named wuhan 400 in the book.


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Actually it was named Gorki-400 and later (1989) re-named to Wuhan-400.

[037]

Originally Posted by Derbyshere

A book written in 1981 by Dean Koontz titled THE EYES OF DARKNESS predicted this corona virus to occur in 2020. It was named wuhan 400 in the book.

Coincidental nomenclature but far from a prediction. That's been all over the news lately and was quickly debunked.

Finding similarities in life after two things vaguely tie together doesn't make it a prediction.

[Arcticsub]

Originally Posted by 037

I'm guessing no Hockey or Curling.





Trying to lighten the mood in here.

If you're going to try to lighten the mood, you should have said "ice hockey" because regular field hockey -which a lot of people call hockey- is on the list.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by Derbyshere

A book written in 1981 by Dean Koontz titled THE EYES OF DARKNESS predicted this corona virus to occur in 2020. It was named wuhan 400 in the book.


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That's actually quite a cool coincidence, I kind of want to read that book now lol

[Andad]

Are you a quick reader Bas?

[77T]

The swine flu during the first year of the 2009-2010 H1N1 pandemic, 20% of the population caught it - far higher than the COVID-19. H1N1 death rate was just 0.02 percent but COVID-19 is currently above 2%.

That is getting people’s attention.


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[Cryten]

Originally Posted by SearChart

That's actually quite a cool coincidence, I kind of want to read that book now lol

This is a copy of the relevant page doing the rounds:

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Are you a quick reader Bas?

Yes, why?

[SBR]

Originally Posted by tadbart

And, let's be honest- It isn't our best and brightest who are breeding like bunny rabbits. No, it's the societal leeches. We are at a tipping point- too many suckers, not enough teats.

Watch the first ten minutes of Idoicracy. It's a comedy but should be labeled as a horror flick.

[nda]

I have car owner virus. Not sure if it's the same thing.

[emersm]

Originally Posted by 77T

The swine flu during the first year of the 2009-2010 H1N1 pandemic, 20% of the population caught it - far higher than the COVID-19. H1N1 death rate was just 0.02 percent but COVID-19 is currently above 2%.

That is getting people’s attention.


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How do those numbers compare to influenza?

[77T]

Last year was comparable in terms of population and mortality rate.

However that is a matter of debate since WHO depends upon self-reported data and the many types of flu - some types are very mild while others are more severe.


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[SunTzu]

I work in a medical facility and we have commercial Lysol which kills the SARS coronavirus. Been on the label for years.

I just snapped a pic of a can on my desk.




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[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by gmh1013

We can only hope that it mutates to a less harmful strain ....like the Spanish flu did. My take is its a lot worse than what is being reported.

We in Japan believe that it is being under reported at least X 10 by the Chinese government.

Services at my church have been cancelled. Graduation ceremonies cancelled or shortened. Scheduled company drinking parties cancelled.

As one friend of mine said who also lives in Japan, "You know that we are all going to get this right."

Resigned at this point.

People are stockpiling meds, food and water.

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Deaths from Corona are somewhere around 2,600, may they all RIP.

Deaths last year from the influenza virus (sources a Google search). 50,000 +.

Why is the world in panic over this virus?

Because we can't trust what is coming out of China Paul. They have zero credibility.

[Geckobros]

Originally Posted by SBR

Watch the first ten minutes of Idoicracy. It's a comedy but should be labeled as a horror flick.

That movie is slowly turning into a documentary.

[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by GluryOl

I feel a bit guilty that I am someone who feels this is blown completely out of proportion and trying g to work.out why?? Stock market collapsing, hysteria, masks, quarantine......I am almost convinced that the 2010 swine flu pandemic killed over 150 000 and infected over a billion. Could be wrong but I know I caught it...there wasnt nearly the hysteria for sub 3000 deaths...I have to be missing something

Maybe it is or maybe it isn't. That's the point, the unknown. The fact that we can't trust the numbers out of China as everyone keeps saying the data is underreported and far worse. So many economies rely on China, like it or not. Also Swine flu death rate (0.01-0.08%) far lower than Coronavirus (2-3%).

[crew]

Originally Posted by emersm

How do those numbers compare to influenza?

H1N1 is the flu. I think it specifically refers to Swine Flu, but it is I believe it is also generic for flu in general.
I’m not a medical guy, at all, so feel free to correct my interpretation if this is your profession.

Ok, just looked at this a little closer online.
Here’s a quick synopsis:
“Flu (influenza) viruses are divided into four broad categories: influenza A, B, C or D. Influenza A is the most common type. H1N1 flu is a subtype of influenza A.”

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by Yoda_Eating_Pizza

What will this mean for the 2020 summer Olympics in Tokyo?

I suspect by then that the events will be deserted.

If it is not outright called off, rescheduled or moved.

Damn shame as a lot of money and resources have gone into the venues.

Nobody is excited or looking forward to having them here anymore.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

I suspect by then that the events will be deserted.

If it is not outright called off, rescheduled or moved.

Damn shame as a lot of money and resources have gone into the venues.

Nobody is excited or looking forward to having them here anymore.

So as far as you’re concerned you are expecting full blown global panic? I mean economies destroyed, jobs lost, Olympics canceled and pure pandemonium? Basically global meltdown?

[erhein]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

We in Japan believe that it is being under reported at least X 10 by the Chinese government.

Services at my church have been cancelled. Graduation ceremonies cancelled or shortened. Scheduled company drinking parties cancelled.

As one friend of mine said who also lives in Japan, "You know that we are all going to get this right."

Resigned at this point.

People are stockpiling meds, food and water.

This post has really caught my eye. My wife and I have travel plans to Tokyo for the second week of April, so we've been watching State Department alerts. Japan was recently raised from level 1 to level 2. I'm 71 years old and she's 68 which could put us at higher risk. We've decided to cancel our plans and from what you've said above, I don't think you would disagree. It's terribly disappointing. Good luck and fingers crossed that you don't all get it.