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21 July 2018, 02:26 AM | #31 | |
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Another option is to send it to RSC and have them change authentic parts. You'll have a better peace of mind sending it to Rolex instead. For the seller to claimed 100%, I question his reputation as a seller now. And wonder if the whole movement is authentic as well. Send your finding to him... |
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21 July 2018, 03:35 AM | #32 | |
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Later, after receiving the watch with the switched insert, I took it to the local AD to get it just looked over and fitted. The AD said everything looked good on the outside...only mentioned things like still sending it off to rolex to inspect the inside, update the datewheel (not as white as a new one), and to check to make sure that it's waterproof. I got up with vince again and chatted about my visit to the AD, and he yet again told me "We checked out the watch and confirmed it was recently serviced, all original and waterproof". So he has told me that it's all original, before and after the insert change. I'll be in contact with him and post back here with details. |
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21 July 2018, 03:47 AM | #33 |
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The AD person might not have the expertise in authenticating Rolex in detail.
Why did he switch the bezel in the first place? |
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It's not that big of a deal, it's only a bezel insert if your really not happy send it back. If your happy just get a new original insert I am sure vince would be more than happy to assist you....
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21 July 2018, 04:43 AM | #35 |
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Genuine watch, aftermarket/replica insert.
Look at pictures of a genuine insert and pay close attention to the pip/pearl.. you can clearly see the quality in the genuine pip, it will be like a white bead encased in glass, not just a flat matt dot like the one in your watch. Also, your date wheel does not need updating, it should be the nice creamy coffee flavour that it is.. i'm annoyed they just went with pure white on the later ceramic TT models.. cream is so much better!! Lastly, take that horrid green sticker off before you catch something from it, that is disgusting, poor show on the seller for passing it on like that. FYI.. you are missing a (trinket) Submariner anchor to make up a full set. Looks like nice clean example. |
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21 July 2018, 05:45 AM | #38 |
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Please get rid of that sticker, Yuk!
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The bezel was switched because we had chatted about the black insert with silver numbers and tick marks (I posted a link a little while back for the original listing) and it had come up that I like the black inserts with gold numbers and tick marks. Vince then told me that he probably had one that he could swap on if I wished, so we proceeded with that route. |
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21 July 2018, 05:47 AM | #40 |
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I like the watch for sure, i'm just the guy that likes to have everything original. I'll have it all worked out in one way or another.
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The response from vince is as follows:
" I do not believe that to be aftermarket but I don’t know how anyone can tell from a picture. The obvious tell from the aftermarket ones is the lack of ribs on the underside and that one did have ribs " |
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Further to your most recent post, a fake insert can be noted from a picture no bother.. |
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21 July 2018, 07:13 AM | #47 |
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Tell him the pip is wrong. A google search will show the difference. It is your watch, but if were me that insert would get tossed in the trash and replaced with a genuine one from a watchmaker with Rolex parts account.
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21 July 2018, 09:06 AM | #49 | |
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Anyhow, what should be the correct color for this watch? black or gold numbers? In the end, it's your watch....your decision. |
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From what I can tell, it seems that the correct color would be what was on the watch initially in the listing, that being a black insert with silver numbers and tick marks. That's just what I believe though and could be totally wrong. After contacting vince, he has offered to send me the insert that was originally on the watch when listed for sale, which is supposed to be authentic (and perhaps correct for this watch?). |
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21 July 2018, 10:19 AM | #53 |
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Here are pictures of the watch when it was listed for sale, but with the original bezel insert. Vince is offering to send me this insert because it is supposed to be authentic (and swap it for the one currently on the watch). Does it look correct?
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21 July 2018, 10:21 AM | #54 |
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That is wrong info on part of the AD. These date wheels were a cream color when brand new. NOT pure bright white. The date wheel on my blue TT Sub never "aged" in 20 years. The Tritium lume plots and hands can patina, and the numerals and markers on the bezel insert fade from gold to "whiteish" over the years from the sun's UV rays. Just goes to show don't trust everything you hear from an AD employee, especially if he/she has no experience with 20 year old watches.
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Seems like a lot of fuss for a sub $100 bezel insert. To my (not so good with the five digit reference) eyes, the rest looks good. The way the date quick sets (and direction of its rotation) are indicators of the Rolex movement.
I think the gold insert looks better, and if the pearl surround is silver rather than gold on the silver insert, it is for a stainless 16610 and not a two-tone sub. But I’m not the five digit expert others around here are... |
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Authentic is different than original. That 16610 insert may be authentic, but it's not original to that watch. If you're going to be old fashioned, I would think you'd prefer the original insert for this watch, which is the gold insert. You can source an authentic original insert for less than $100. |
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21 July 2018, 11:14 PM | #59 |
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That is the correct insert, you can see the gold set for the pip.. it has simply faded to silver. I would put that back on the watch, keep it original!
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Wow, that sticker does churn the stomach.
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