5205G or 5170G

[braddmlewis]

Looking at adding something to the collection and torn between a 5205 with blue face or the 5170 with black.
What does everyone think and what would be the right price for a new piece?
Have a good weekend all!


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[Busyboy]

I do love the 5170... But I'm worried it's not always the most legible of hand/dial combination from the majority of times I've seen pictures. This was unfortunately reinforced a by a good degree in person.

In the end I went full circle and got the 5524

[WatchLurv]

5170G is more expensive.

Dont get the 5205 Blue. It looks black unless you're under direct sunlight or a lamp. Total scam by Stern.

[ap1]

These are two of my favorite strap model pieces in the lineup. How many chronos do you have? I’d go chrono most likely. I do really like the 5205 you’ve mentioned, so much so it’s on my list. Of course my standard answer for this is, skip those for 5170p and call it a day

[italiafan]

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

5170G is more expensive.

Dont get the 5205 Blue. It looks black unless you're under direct sunlight or a lamp. Total scam by Stern.

Maybe you should get your eyes examined.

[WatchLurv]

Originally Posted by italiafan

Maybe you should get your eyes examined.

My eyes are perfectly fine. I have it and it's a scam. It's black most of the time unless you put it under a lamp or you're out on a clear blue sky day.

[ts3]

The 5170G black is a beauty no matter how I look at it while the 5205 series doesn't do much for me. Then again I know I'd never use the chrono function on a PM dress watch. Getting a chrono and not using it feels like getting a watch and not wearing it to me which is why I may never get a dress chrono.

[MadSpaniard]

Originally Posted by italiafan

Maybe you should get your eyes examined.

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

My eyes are perfectly fine. I have it and it's a scam. It's black most of the time unless you put it under a lamp or you're out on a clear blue sky day.

Honestly, I think there is some truth to this, in that the 5205G's blue shades out to black toward the outer periphery, so it's not really a solid or vibrant blue like other Patek blue dials. I thought that was immediately obvious the moment I laid eyes on it "live" at an AD.

That said, it's still a nice dial and I can understand why people like it. I wouldn't consider it a "scam", but rather a deliberate attempt by Patek to offer something that's notably different than a typical blue.

Personally, I opted for the 5205R-001 (opaline white) which I find more classic and timeless (and easier to read, I think).

The good news is that people can get the version they prefer - that's exactly why Patek currently offers 3 dial variations on the 5205.

Problem solved.

[ap1]

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

5170G is more expensive.

Dont get the 5205 Blue. It looks black unless you're under direct sunlight or a lamp. Total scam by Stern.

We need to throw out the extremes, WL hates it and Ichi loves it. Cancel them for a more normal distribution on this piece.

[braddmlewis]

Originally Posted by ap1

These are two of my favorite strap model pieces in the lineup. How many chronos do you have? I’d go chrono most likely. I do really like the 5205 you’ve mentioned, so much so it’s on my list. Of course my standard answer for this is, skip those for 5170p and call it a day

There is that option but it may come with the associated wife dissatisfaction issues lol.


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[ap1]

Btw I should mention that 5205 wears extremely well for a 6.5 wrist. It’s the most comfortable leather strap patek I’ve ever tried on (more comfy to me that my old 5227 and current 5170p)


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[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by italiafan

maybe you should get your eyes examined.

x 2

[Fat_ninja]

If you are not adverse to going grey. You can get BNIB on both those for like 20-30% less than MSRP.

I just saved you some money :)

[JR16]

Originally Posted by ap1

Btw I should mention that 5205 wears extremely well for a 6.5 wrist. It’s the most comfortable leather strap patek I’ve ever tried on (more comfy to me that my old 5227 and current 5170p)


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I think it depends on wrist shape- mine is slightly rounded , 6.75in... I’ve had the 5205 on my wrist several times in anticipation of buying it (it’s my favorite dial layout of the ACs), but it just didn’t feel right , prob bc of the thickness. Felt a bit clunky. So never bought it. On my wrist the 5146 and 5227 wear more comfortably.


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[WatchLurv]

Originally Posted by MadSpaniard

Honestly, I think there is some truth to this, in that the 5205G's blue shades out to black toward the outer periphery, so it's not really a solid or vibrant blue like other Patek blue dials. I thought that was immediately obvious the moment I laid eyes on it "live" at an AD.

That said, it's still a nice dial and I can understand why people like it. I wouldn't consider it a "scam", but rather a deliberate attempt by Patek to offer something that's notably different than a typical blue.

Personally, I opted for the 5205R-001 (opaline white) which I find more classic and timeless (and easier to read, I think).

The good news is that people can get the version they prefer - that's exactly why Patek currently offers 3 dial variations on the 5205.

Problem solved.

I didn't see it live. I purchased it based on pictures I saw on google image and their website. It was nice at the shop when I picked it up. Wasn't so nice for the rest of the time when I found out that the blue accent doesn't come through until you shine a light on it.

[ap1]

Originally Posted by JR16

I think it depends on wrist shape- mine is slightly rounded , 6.75in... I’ve had the 5205 on my wrist several times in anticipation of buying it (it’s my favorite dial layout of the ACs), but it just didn’t feel right , prob bc of the thickness. Felt a bit clunky. So never bought it. On my wrist the 5146 and 5227 wear more comfortably.


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I hear you. I’ve got an impossible bony lady wrist and the 5205 was a match in heaven. Would have had the black long ago if I felt it was legible enough. I like the blue now.

[subtona]

5172

[Bearxj86]

5170 has a nicer ass and slimmer
5205 more practical/usable complication but more pot bellied

5205 if more of a daily, 5170 if more for dressy and WIS like louping
Finally I think one comes with deployant and one does not? Might want to think about that too

[EdwardC]

5170G late black dial looks awesome

[shafran]

Probably my two favorite pateks. I have a 5205 1g. It fits well. I found the 5146 too small for me.

[metdrdg]

I’m about to list my 5170G for sale. Looks new have all B+P but it’s white dial. Asking $45K.

[audhiphilitis]

Originally Posted by metdrdg

I’m about to list my 5170G for sale. Looks new have all B+P but it’s white dial. Asking $45K.

PM sent

[V25V]

Originally Posted by italiafan

Maybe you should get your eyes examined.

I kinda agree with him. I tried one on and it was very black, only blue in certain light/angles. Didn't really like it in person at all.

[wear4l]

I am a fan of the 5170G black, think the dial looks amazing.

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by wear4l

I am a fan of the 5170G black, think the dial looks amazing.

+1
The Breguet numbers are stunning on black. Its dial is so similar to the gorgeous 5370P, but at less than half the price.

[WatchLurv]

Originally Posted by V25V

I kinda agree with him. I tried one on and it was very black, only blue in certain light/angles. Didn't really like it in person at all.

Exactly.

It's more black thank blue.

[ade]

If you are looking for an in-yer-face BLUE Patek, the 5205G is not the one. But if you value subtlety that is both elegant and contemporary without wanting a sports/Nautilus, then the 5205G is lovely.

No filters and in normal indoor lighting, the 5205G works brilliantly.





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[braddmlewis]

Ironically I have ZERO interest in a Nautilus. I may be the only person on the planet who feels that way but it just looks like a dated ugly watch that if it wasn’t a Patek nobody would ever buy. But the great thing about watches is it’s all subjective. I am now trying to see if I can find a new 5170P even though it has been discontinued. Failing that I will do the 5205G


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[ap1]

Blue
Black
Spectacular




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[RollinMoses]

Originally Posted by braddmlewis

Ironically I have ZERO interest in a Nautilus. I may be the only person on the planet who feels that way but it just looks like a dated ugly watch that if it wasn’t a Patek nobody would ever buy. But the great thing about watches is it’s all subjective. I am now trying to see if I can find a new 5170P even though it has been discontinued. Failing that I will do the 5205G


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I am with you on the lack of interest in a Nautilus - it seems like a perfectly fine watch, but does not do anything for me personally. I do though like the aquanaut as a relaxed, low profile, but still high end sports watch. I have the 5205G and love it. 5170P also a great choice. Maybe would throw 5524 in for consideration.