321 Ed White imminent?

[robertengel]

I just spoke to the AD and they said they will be receiving the first watches very soon (311.30.40.30.01.001). They said next week possibly. I am curious if anyone else has had this information, it seems a bit premature as the website states July.

I know there was a lot of debate over the piece I for one have been looking at speedmasters for a while now. I really liked the original speedy Tuesday in pictures but it did not sing to me in person, I have been apprehensive about the regular speedmaster professional some days I liked it other days I did not. When I saw this being introduced on Hodinkee I was literally outside the AD walking buy and ran in.

The week the watch was introduced I was thinking about the perfect speedmaster and thought it should be a little smaller with a ceramic bezel, better bracelet and a 321 movement for shits and giggles. And they happened to introduce just that. If I could change anything it would be to lower the price and make the markers white. Curious to see if it arrives!

[robertengel]

Addition: AD reached out to tell me they quoted the arrival time wrong and its beginning of July.

[macrowatch]

Maybe. My AD was confirming orders in May. But they didn’t know delivery window, but did know Omega sales rep pressing hard to confirm all orders and allocation.

[robertengel]

Originally Posted by macrowatch

Maybe. My AD was confirming orders in May. But they didn’t know delivery window, but did know Omega sales rep pressing hard to confirm all orders and allocation.

I am guessing that they are nervous that it launches well given the current circumstances...

[Trog]

Originally Posted by robertengel

I just spoke to the AD and they said they will be receiving the first watches very soon (311.30.40.30.01.001). They said next week possibly. I am curious if anyone else has had this information, it seems a bit premature as the website states July.

I know there was a lot of debate over the piece I for one have been looking at speedmasters for a while now. I really liked the original speedy Tuesday in pictures but it did not sing to me in person, I have been apprehensive about the regular speedmaster professional some days I liked it other days I did not. When I saw this being introduced on Hodinkee I was literally outside the AD walking buy and ran in.

The week the watch was introduced I was thinking about the perfect speedmaster and thought it should be a little smaller with a ceramic bezel, better bracelet and a 321 movement for shits and giggles. And they happened to introduce just that. If I could change anything it would be to lower the price and make the markers white. Curious to see if it arrives!

I visited my AD last weekend where he told me they had an Omega shipment currently clearing customs. They had no idea what was in the shipment, but we're hoping my new Ed White is included?

How can an AD not know what inventory is being shipped?

[robertengel]

Originally Posted by Trog

I visited my AD last weekend where he told me they had an Omega shipment currently clearing customs. They had no idea what was in the shipment, but we're hoping my new Ed White is included?

How can an AD not know what inventory is being shipped?

I can never decide if they are taking the piss when they say they don't know what's arriving or they genuinely don't know. With another AD he usually had some kind of forecast saying they will get one of watch x before May or something like that...but then other times they say they don't know when the next one is coming. Maybe it's them holding out maybe its changes in the way inventory is distributed.

[Trog]

Originally Posted by robertengel

I can never decide if they are taking the piss when they say they don't know what's arriving or they genuinely don't know. With another AD he usually had some kind of forecast saying they will get one of watch x before May or something like that...but then other times they say they don't know when the next one is coming. Maybe it's them holding out maybe its changes in the way inventory is distributed.

I believe the automobile industry works the same way...Dealerships place an order, then it's a crap-shoot what head-office puts on the transporter.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by Trog

I believe the automobile industry works the same way...Dealerships place an order, then it's a crap-shoot what head-office puts on the transporter.

Yes, on your side of the pond...

If you buy a new car in Germany the process tends to be quite different. You put in your order w the specs, color, and options you want, you'll get a time frame for when the car will be produced accordingly, and after what is typically a few months you can pick up your new vehicle at the factory or at your dealer.

[cda555]

I can't wait to see actual photos of it. It's the first time I have been this excited for a release that I am probably never going to buy!

[subtona]

Good news. Looki)g to see some live pics. Same as OP this piece touched all the bases.

[robertengel]

Originally Posted by subtona

Good news. Looki)g to see some live pics. Same as OP this piece touched all the bases.

The media will probably get reviews in before I get my hands on it. But I'll gladly supply them. Oddly enough they didn't talk about the box and accessories yet. With the anniversary editions it was a bit fuss about the boxes. Also we have not yet seen the clasp in any marketing materials.

[Wrist party]

Originally Posted by robertengel

The media will probably get reviews in before I get my hands on it. But I'll gladly supply them. Oddly enough they didn't talk about the box and accessories yet. With the anniversary editions it was a bit fuss about the boxes. Also we have not yet seen the clasp in any marketing materials.

It seems like OMEGA has been keeping the additional infos on this piece, more strictly than ever. They’ve never failed the fans on their product packages and accessories before and I don’t think they will be breaking that tradition this time, especially considering the STEEP price that they are asking for on this 321 LMFAO

My wildest speculation on the package is that they will be including a extra solid case back and Acrylic glass for the most die hard purists in order to shut them up.
Now If that is the case.....

[robertengel]

Originally Posted by Wrist party

It seems like OMEGA has been keeping the additional infos on this piece, more strictly than ever. They’ve never failed the fans on their product packages and accessories before and I don’t think they will be breaking that tradition this time, especially considering the STEEP price that they are asking for on this 321 LMFAO

My wildest speculation on the package is that they will be including a extra solid case back and Acrylic glass for the most die hard purists in order to shut them up.
Now If that is the case.....

You mean an acrylic crystal for the dial side? Hmmm interesting, but who knows if they will go that far. I hope its not something gimmicky like the moon lander model on the anniversary last year.

[Wrist party]

Originally Posted by robertengel

You mean an acrylic crystal for the dial side? Hmmm interesting, but who knows if they will go that far. I hope its not something gimmicky like the moon lander model on the anniversary last year.

Honestly the 6969’s design cue is kinda predictable as I was talking to my friends last year, it’ll definitely be involving the footprint and the “butt shot” just didn’t think they were gonna be presenting the lunar module in such fashion, overall admittedly gimmicky but very impressive as well. I actually skipped the Apollo 8 DSotM and this 6969 for this Ed White so I simply overlooked the USD 14k price tag and placed my order on 7th January, if this watch turns out isn’t as good as I anticipated, I’m never gonna buy another omega ever again.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Wrist party

It seems like OMEGA has been keeping the additional infos on this piece, more strictly than ever. They’ve never failed the fans on their product packages and accessories before and I don’t think they will be breaking that tradition this time, especially considering the STEEP price that they are asking for on this 321 LMFAO

My wildest speculation on the package is that they will be including a extra solid case back and Acrylic glass for the most die hard purists in order to shut them up.
Now If that is the case.....

Including a plexiglass option would be very meaningful as a bit of good will to their customers

rather than what I am anticipating... in a years time they will release the watch with plexi and offer 2 distinct models?

I like your idea much better.

[Wrist party]

Originally Posted by subtona

Including a plexiglass option would be very meaningful as a bit of good will to their customers

rather than what I am anticipating... in a years time they will release the watch with plexi and offer 2 distinct models?

I like your idea much better.

It seems like your “releasing other watches” idea is far more realistic, mine was just a wild guess after all and I myself don’t even believe it

Just for the sake of a fun conversation, what are you anticipating?

[amanbra]

I hope it's soon, i put a deposit down last year and I hope to see one soon...

[Wrist party]

My SA here in Toronto called me a few days ago, telling me that there is going to be a shipment arriving next week and there will be quite a few “special pieces” along with it. It is inconclusive that whether my Ed White will be included but my expectation is high nevertheless.
151 days since I paid the deposit for this 321 at 7th January, and counting......
For sure this piece will be extra meaningful considering the fact that this is a different world now compared to what it was back in 7th January 2020

[subtona]

Regarding the hesalite vs Saphire,
Imho Side by side the hesalite simply looks better.
Of course the fact that it scratches can be a bummer so we have the saphire alternative solution.

the 321 movement is legend (I am happy it will be visible) , Combined with the much improved bracelet I believe makes it worthy of the jump in price point.

The only thing keeping the 321 speedy from being a Daytona CRUSHER is the 50m WR (vs the Daytona 100m)





A final note would be the “gold plated” parts... just make them full gold for the win... of course that would result in a handsome price increase : )

[Wrist party]

Originally Posted by subtona

Regarding the hesalite vs Saphire,
Imho Side by side the hesalite simply looks better.
Of course the fact that it scratches can be a bummer so we have the saphire alternative solution.

the 321 movement is legend (I am happy it will be visible) , Combined with the much improved bracelet I believe makes it worthy of the jump in price point.

The only thing keeping the 321 speedy from being a Daytona CRUSHER is the 50m WR (vs the Daytona 100m)





A final note would be the “gold plated” parts... just make them full gold for the win... of course that would result in a handsome price increase : )

Haha u mean going full Journe? Yea knowing that could be done and has been done, that’s a bummer but at least they are visually identical lol, but then again, if they did go full rose gold parts, I wonder if that would deviate the spirit of cal.321, which is a worker horse that was meant to be a tool at the first place. After all the PVD rose is just for the sake of stably recreating the warmth of the copper plating on the original.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Wrist party

Haha u mean going full Journe? Yea knowing that could be done and has been done, that’s a bummer but at least they are visually identical lol, but then again, if they did go full rose gold parts, I wonder if that would deviate the spirit of cal.321, which is a worker horse that was meant to be a tool at the first place. After all the PVD rose is just for the sake of stably recreating the warmth of the copper plating on the original.

Was only thinking about those parts that have the gold plating... it wouldn’t have been on my radar except for the salesperson who touted the “gold parts” when I was placing my order... mind you I already committed to purchasing, the weak sales pitch with the misleading commentary of gold parts did more harm then good. Would have appreciated it more if the salesperson would have referenced the technical purpose of the gold plating as a stabilizer, but i digresss.

Now that you mention it, a Full gold movement would be nice


Really looking forward to seeing this in the metal.

[Wrist party]

Originally Posted by subtona

Was only thinking about those parts that have the gold plating... it wouldn’t have been on my radar except for the salesperson who touted the “gold parts” when I was placing my order... mind you I already committed to purchasing, the weak sales pitch with the misleading commentary of gold parts did more harm then good. Would have appreciated it more if the salesperson would have referenced the technical purpose of the gold plating as a stabilizer, but i digresss.

Now that you mention it, a Full gold movement would be nice


Really looking forward to seeing this in the metal.

Haha a good gold movement for 14k is quite a bargain considering the craftsmanship that needs to be put in, it’s a STEAL but that salesperson is clearly full of crap, I’ve met those people too, the lack of professionalism in this line of work is very not cool.

[Rashid.bk]

Honestly, it took a while to come around to this watch, but I don't think I've been more excited for a watch than this(especially after the recent space launch, which got me really excited for a Speedy).
I want a Daytona of course, it has a great pedigree, but I reeeeeeeeally want this watch. Really want it.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Honestly, it took a while to come around to this watch, but I don't think I've been more excited for a watch than this(especially after the recent space launch, which got me really excited for a Speedy).
I want a Daytona of course, it has a great pedigree, but I reeeeeeeeally want this watch. Really want it.

I can imagine my friend. I want one too but the price range made me uncomfortable so I don't see myself buying one in the near future. I don't think I'll get on board with them in their way to become a more sophisticated brand but I applaud them for doing that.

[subtona]

Today Boutique told me USA expects first delivery in September.

[Wrist party]

Originally Posted by subtona

Today Boutique told me USA expects first delivery in September.

Two weeks ago my SA told me they have a special delivery coming in and might have some good news for me, two week later I’m still waiting for his call

[Roddypeepa]

I love the new 321 in pictures and the bracelet is much better in pictures. Ceramic great for hassle free wear and the nod to the original is great.

Standard moonwatch and sapphire sandwich seem to make comprises with the bezel being aluminium etc - sorry but it’s 2020 and I want my watches to last. It’s premium money I need a premium watch.

But the price for the 321... . It’s a mickey take. I know that significant R and D costs have been incurred but come on - it’s a 1960s design. If omega neglected to save their blue prints in their archives then that’s their bad.

Love the dial, love the bracelet, I bet the fit and finish is top drawer but the price is too much for all but the very wealthy. Perhaps they should ditch the sapphire sandwich completely, replace it with this at say half way between the two on cost and have the hesalite as the base model. There’s too much choice with Omega.

I really like some of their models but it’s so confusing it hursts my head and makes a used purchase a minefield. I think that’s part of the reason resale generally not as good.


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[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Roddypeepa

But the price for the 321... . It’s a mickey take. I know that significant R and D costs have been incurred but come on - it’s a 1960s design. If omega neglected to save their blue prints in their archives then that’s their bad.

I agree.

I really dig this watch. And I'm a huge fan of Omega (I have more Speedy's in the collection than I can remember in my head without looking at my list), but I can't bring myself to spend Rolex Daytona money on it.

Yes, I know you can't get an SS Daytona at MSRP, but some people can. Even then, the 321 SS is priced higher than the SS Daytona (at MSRP). That's kind of crazy.

[bibbi]

Any new info re when the watches hit the ADs?


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[robertengel]

They are currently telling me July... We will see