Rust on my 5930 second hand?

[Totoro86]

Hi guys, just curious what you guys might think... Took out my 5930 today for some wrist time and noticed some sort of black mark on the second hand near the center of the dial.

Upon closer inspection with zoomed photographs I suspect it could be rust? Will send it to the AD on Monday

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[Passionata]

doubt it s rust , may some discoluration , the good news it s an easy fix.

[V25V]

Yeah, that would drive me bonkers.


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[dannyp]

If it's rust, that would seem a huge problem for two reasons:

1. Rust happens in the presence of moisture.

2. AFAIK, all PP hands are made from gold, and gold doesn't rust...

[Totoro86]

Originally Posted by dannyp

If it's rust, that would seem a huge problem for two reasons:

1. Rust happens in the presence of moisture.

2. AFAIK, all PP hands are made from gold, and gold doesn't rust...

Omg, it completely slipped my mind that the hands are gold. It can't be rust then, still... It definitely wasn't there when I first got it.

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[Sylt]

Chronograph hand for counting the seconds are made of steel by patek because of possible bending while resetting.

[Tan]

That doesn't look good, would recommend heading to your nearest Patek AD / service center immediately.

[SimpleMan91]

I had the same issue with my 5170P. Luckily I noticed it a few days after so I made it in time for my AD to take it back and allocate me a new one. Hope your AD can do the same for you!





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[Justindo]

I don't know if it's rust but it's clearly some sort of discoloration of the hand. Sadly, Watchfinder's videos have showcased a number of such major imperfections on Pateks in the last few years. Patek's quality has been in decline for a decade or two but it seems to have really fallen off a cliff within the last few years.

[dom007]

Originally Posted by Justindo

I don't know if it's rust but it's clearly some sort of discoloration of the hand. Sadly, Watchfinder's videos have showcased a number of such major imperfections on Pateks in the last few years. Patek's quality has been in decline for a decade or two but it seems to have really fallen off a cliff within the last few years.

I didn't know that. Thank you very much for summarizing your valuable experience in a few sentences.

[Justindo]

Originally Posted by dom007

I didn't know that. Thank you very much for summarizing your valuable experience in a few sentences.

You're welcome! As the owner of a half dozen Pateks, past and present (none in the last half-dozen years) and as one who sees a number of pieces regularly and who possesses a critical eye, I'm happy to educate you. With production approaching 70,000 watches, this is bound to happen.

[Peter Shore]

Originally Posted by Justindo

I don't know if it's rust but it's clearly some sort of discoloration of the hand. Sadly, Watchfinder's videos have showcased a number of such major imperfections on Pateks in the last few years. Patek's quality has been in decline for a decade or two but it seems to have really fallen off a cliff within the last few years.

They don't aspire to zero defect as that's not possible...3% on 60 000 watches a year....1800 ...no big deal....

[Totoro86]

Hey guys, thanks for the feedback, have sent the watch to AD. Keeping fingers crossed that it won't be a huge issue.

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[Passionata]

Originally Posted by Sylt

Chronograph hand for counting the seconds are made of steel by patek because of possible bending while resetting.

[Tan]

Will this ultimately affect the value of the watch if they are replacing it with service hands? Not sure how the Patek world deals with service hands compared to the Rolex collector market.

[rollyp]

Originally Posted by Tan

Will this ultimately affect the value of the watch if they are replacing it with service hands? Not sure how the Patek world deals with service hands compared to the Rolex collector market.

No, since the service hands will be identical.

[Passionata]

Originally Posted by rollyp

No, since the service hands will be identical.

Originally Posted by Tan

Will this ultimately affect the value of the watch if they are replacing it with service hands? Not sure how the Patek world deals with service hands compared to the Rolex collector market.

Service hands on currently produced models has zero effect on value no doubt that PP d replace that even w/o asking it during the first routine service (it s not considered as a worn or discolored part rather a damaged one ,rusty parts are never considered valuable even in the vintage world.)

[Tan]

Originally Posted by Passionata

Service hands on currently produced models has zero effect on value no doubt that PP d replace that even w/o asking it during the first routine service (it s not considered as a worn or discolored part rather a damaged one ,rusty parts are never considered valuable even in the vintage world.)

What about in lumed models? Ie: a modern Patek that was transitional from tritium one year and luminova in another, the hands have some sort of discoloration, and Patek replaces luminova hands instead of tritium?


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[Passionata]

Originally Posted by Tan

What about in lumed models? Ie: a modern Patek that was transitional from tritium one year and luminova in another, the hands have some sort of discoloration, and Patek replaces luminova hands instead of tritium?


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That s a different story however i wrote about CuRRent production models where such a problem can t occur ,the transition from tritium to SL was around the nineties(IDK exactly when by PP) but those watches are considered vintage or young timers where the owner should instruct the SC if wish to keep the original setup or want replacements (hands dials bracelets etc).

[AK797]

Looks like Nutella, a common problem when assembling things in that delicious part of the world.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by AK797

Looks like Nutella, a common problem when assembling things in that delicious part of the world.

Lol... I thought this was a. Serious answer at first

[Mr.Rolex1]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan91

I had the same issue with my 5170P. Luckily I noticed it a few days after so I made it in time for my AD to take it back and allocate me a new one. Hope your AD can do the same for you!





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this looks like dust?

[SimpleMan91]

Originally Posted by Mr.Rolex1

this looks like dust?

My AD thought too. Until Rockefeller office said it didn’t come off. They replaced my watch.


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[turborolex]

Originally Posted by Totoro86

Hi guys, just curious what you guys might think... Took out my 5930 today for some wrist time and noticed some sort of black mark on the second hand near the center of the dial.

Upon closer inspection with zoomed photographs I suspect it could be rust? Will send it to the AD on Monday

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Please let us know what happened and how they fixed the issue.

Thanks!


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[GB-man]

Looks like guano.

[turborolex]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Looks like guano.

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[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Looks like guano.

I had to google guano

[Calatrava r]

It is very troubling we are getting all these QC issues with a brand we admire and respect so much.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I had to google guano

Ace Ventura reference. Jim Carrey. The 90s. Good times.

[Humble michael]

Hey Ninja, it’s bat poo ��