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Old 16 August 2021, 07:27 PM   #1
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Day-date president buying tip?

Hello guys, I've been going through DayDates for a month now trying to get myself a belated birthday gift. I'm interested in your thoughts about this exact listing. I know the general things and the bracelet stretch, but not more than that in terms of polish and general condition. Considering the stretch is this watch worth the price? I'll leave the photos here if anyone stumbles upon this thread. Let me know your thoughts. FIX Price $16,871 in Europe
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Old 16 August 2021, 07:43 PM   #2
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Just from your pictures alone.

the Bezel looks quite worn down and the definition of the flutes have gone.

The bracelet ... Thats going to probably be a costly repair. There are specialists who can fix that at a price.

The price of the watch has to take BOTH of those into considerationderation.

How about servicing .. When was its last Service ? That could add some cost also.

Personally, unless the watch is a real bargain, i would not buy it.
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Old 16 August 2021, 07:47 PM   #3
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Just from your pictures alone.

the Bezel looks quite worn down and the definition of the flutes have gone.

The bracelet ... Thats going to probably be a costly repair. There are specialists who can fix that at a price.

The price of the watch has to take BOTH of those into considerationderation.

How about servicing .. When was its last Service ? That could add some cost also.

Personally, unless the watch is a real bargain, i would not buy it.
The price is $16,871 on C24
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Old 16 August 2021, 07:52 PM   #4
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My last comment still stands ....

Personally, unless the watch is a real bargain, I would not buy it.
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Old 16 August 2021, 08:58 PM   #5
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Don’t buy that watch at that price
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Old 16 August 2021, 09:08 PM   #6
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The case and the bracelet appear over polished. There are better examples out there for the money. I would continue to search. I would also try to find a store I could go into and look at the watch in person. Good luck and the DD is a great reference.
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Old 16 August 2021, 09:25 PM   #7
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The case and the bracelet appear over polished. There are better examples out there for the money. I would continue to search. I would also try to find a store I could go into and look at the watch in person. Good luck and the DD is a great reference.
Thank you for your reply, sir. How to tell if a watch has been over-polished? For example, is this another case of an overpolished watch?
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Old 16 August 2021, 09:27 PM   #8
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The case and the bracelet appear over polished. There are better examples out there for the money. I would continue to search. I would also try to find a store I could go into and look at the watch in person. Good luck and the DD is a great reference.
Thank you for your reply, sir. How to tell if a watch has been over-polished? For example, is this yet another case of an overpolished watch?
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Old 16 August 2021, 09:41 PM   #9
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Agree with all of the above. With a DD 36 I would want to see it in person unless I’d got a minty piece from a trusted seller. Although I will say, there aren’t that many good examples of the DD36 on secondary lately. Definitely consider whether the dial option is exactly what you want, expensive to change later. But good luck on finding a nice piece under $20k in today’s market.
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Old 16 August 2021, 10:04 PM   #10
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Not for me. Bracelet not too bad but still refurbishing it would make the total package a bit too costly. The crown on the clasp has lost its definition as does the bezel.
In this price range it should be a full set with tight bracelet imho.
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Old 16 August 2021, 10:59 PM   #11
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stay away from that watch, you can find ones in way better shape
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Old 16 August 2021, 11:17 PM   #12
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Old 16 August 2021, 11:20 PM   #13
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Far, far too polished for my liking. You can still find these in excellent, sometimes almost unworn condition as people would often keep them for 'best'. I'm after one myself actually...
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Old 16 August 2021, 11:45 PM   #14
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Far, far too polished for my liking. You can still find these in excellent, sometimes almost unworn condition as people would often keep them for 'best'. I'm after one myself actually...
Thank you. For how long have you been looking?
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Old 16 August 2021, 11:48 PM   #15
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Thank you guys very much for the advice. Any opinion on this one? Goes for 17.7 grand on C24 (EU)
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Old 16 August 2021, 11:58 PM   #16
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Which exact DD reference do you want? The ones you are posting are way too expensive and not in the best condition for those prices.

If I were you, whenever you can, travel to the US and pick up a DD there. Better market, better prices.
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Old 17 August 2021, 12:03 AM   #17
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Which exact DD reference do you want? The ones you are posting are way too expensive and not in the best condition for those prices.

If I were you, whenever you can, travel to the US and pick up a DD there. Better market, better prices.
I'm interested in the 18038 and the 18238.
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Old 17 August 2021, 02:58 PM   #18
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I realize that all ships rise with the rising tides during COVID, but those prices reflect an 18238 with little to no visible bracelet stretch (a personal pet peeve) and otherwise unmolested. Those prices are still notably north of any comparable 18038. And the 3155’s Double Quickset is really a game-changer. After trying my dad’s 18038 when I was young, I felt lucky that mine (YG, platinum) had the 3155 by the time I got into the market.

You shouldn’t have to question the deal, you should simply know that what you’re seeing is worth spending the asking price to acquire. People have said that you should see it in person, and they’re right. I’ve bought a few sight unseen, and it (purely by luck) worked out. But wherever circumstances allow, I’d view and hold it in-hand. And there are plenty of them available, so finding one in great shape and with the right dial and with or without B/P/accessories is totally doable. Best of luck in your search, and post your incoming!
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Old 17 August 2021, 07:08 PM   #19
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The case and the bracelet appear over polished. There are better examples out there for the money. I would continue to search. I would also try to find a store I could go into and look at the watch in person. Good luck and the DD is a great reference.
May I ask how can you tell how many times has it been polished? I can now only tell if it's been polished (once) by seeing no scratches. For example, is this one in any better shape than the previous one? On this one bezel seems to have more definition.
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Old 17 August 2021, 07:15 PM   #20
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The case and the bracelet appear over polished. There are better examples out there for the money. I would continue to search. I would also try to find a store I could go into and look at the watch in person. Good luck and the DD is a great reference.
Wow, I've just compared the first one I had a question about with the one now from the States, and what a difference judging only by the crown. Wow. Thank you for the advice.
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Old 17 August 2021, 09:04 PM   #22
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Just from your pictures alone.

the Bezel looks quite worn down and the definition of the flutes have gone.

The bracelet ... Thats going to probably be a costly repair. There are specialists who can fix that at a price.

The price of the watch has to take BOTH of those into considerationderation.

How about servicing .. When was its last Service ? That could add some cost also.

Personally, unless the watch is a real bargain, i would not buy it.
Found this one. The bezel seems to be in pristine condition. Seems like one in good condition?
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Found this one. The bezel seems to be in pristine condition. Seems like one in good condition?
Bracelet has stretch. Again, pass.
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Found this one. The bezel seems to be in pristine condition. Seems like one in good condition?
Might look like its in good condition but again it is very worn.

Not a good choice in my opinion.
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Old 18 August 2021, 12:57 AM   #25
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Might look like its in good condition but again it is very worn.

Not a good choice in my opinion.
Thank you, sir. Could you show me a photo of one which would be described as good for the price, so I wouldn't have to bother all yall nice people here
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Old 18 August 2021, 02:50 AM   #26
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Thank you, sir. Could you show me a photo of one which would be described as good for the price, so I wouldn't have to bother all yall nice people here
I have a suspicion that pointing to a sale of a watch in the open forum is probably against the rules.
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I have a suspicion that pointing to a sale of a watch in the open forum is probably against the rules.
Oh I didn't mean any current listing, just a random photo off of Google as a comparison
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Keep searching. That one is not worth it.
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Old 18 August 2021, 07:05 PM   #29
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Keep searching. That one is not worth it.
Thank you, I most certainly will.
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Old 18 August 2021, 08:56 PM   #30
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Your going to have wear and stretch in these 30 year old day dates…….be prepared to search for months for a decent one…..and be prepared to watch it go down in value also as you wear it….
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