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idk01 · 24 March 2009, 04:17 PM

Seller: finejewelryofatlanta( 0 )

Issue - Another LV that probably never existed thus Never Worn, this one smells Scumtilliumptios with a side of scam. Stock photo again, beckertime by the looks of it :-(

***Rolex Oyster Perpetual Submariner Date,
***Man`s Size-40mm,
***Special "50th Anniversary" Model,
***31-Jewel Chronometer Movement,
***Special Green Time-Lapse Bezel,
***Sapphire Crystal,
***Black Maxi Dial,Hour Markers,
***Stainless Steel Oyter Bracelet, Fliplock Clasp,
***Water Resistant to 300M.,
***Model # 16610LV, "M" or "V" Serial
***Certificate of Authenticity,
***Never Worn,
***Retail Price : $6400.00

Now this seller puts a personal spin in the mix

YOU WILL NOT FIND THIS PRICE NOWHERE IN THIS WORLD.MAY BE TRY ANOTHER PLANET..:)

HURRY UP FOR MY WATCH!!!!!

I GIVE THIS WATCH FOR THE BEST OFFER.

COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!

BE MY CUSTOMER AND GET THE BEST DEAL!!!!!!!!!!

I HAVE ANY MODEL OF ROLEX WATCHES.CALL ME AND ASK FOR WHAT YOU LOKING FOR AND I`LL GET IT FOR THE LOWEST PRICE FOR YOU.TRY AND SEE.IT IS FREE..:)

OTHER ROLEX SELLERS PLEASE DO NOT WASTE MY TIME FOR CHECKING MY PRICES.

PLEASE CALL ME ONLY IF YOU ARE A SERIOUS BUYER.

STORE # 404 681 5007

CELL # 678 468 7619

ASK FOR ABI.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Submariner%2250th-Anniversary%22Model%2316610LV-Never-Worn-_W0QQitemZ250392526804QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2009032 1?IMSfp=TL090321173006r19024

Additional, Can of worms to be opened here. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfin...atlantaQQhtZ-1

Please check out his other tantalizing sales, to be posted soon on a TRF Watchout section NEAR YOU!

idk01 · 24 March 2009, 04:27 PM

Additional, Additional.

The info eg sales after sales advice blah blah blah at the bottom that looks quite legit seems to be a slightly altered version of a cut and paste of 'interwatches' sales information.

Link here - http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...d=interwatches

idk01 · 24 March 2009, 04:40 PM

Further investigation - Stolen photo from - here is two I found :

http://www.2ndshop.com/index.php?lay...401679&Ntype=2

http://www.thewatchquote.com/The-mod...ers-No_378.htm
(scroll to bottom)

TimeToGo · 24 March 2009, 09:36 PM

We have discussed this one before...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...welryofatlanta

idk01 · 24 March 2009, 09:48 PM

Hi TTG,

I did see that post just after I pooped this one on, do you have a link to the site mentioned in the other discussion as I'm finding it a little hard to swallow that a reputable seller would be using the above dialogue and non original pictures.

Just playing the usual investigation routes :-)

Cheers,

Dave.

TimeToGo · 24 March 2009, 09:56 PM

KCfinejewelry.com

idk01 · 24 March 2009, 09:59 PM

Cheers

idk01 · 24 March 2009, 10:08 PM

TTG,

That add up nicely :-) just unusual the transition between such a well presented site and the way out strange dialogue on the listed items on the bay at first glance is plain weird.

Phone numbers and store details are spot on :-)

All I can put it down to is a creative staff member LOL

Thanks for pointing that one out :-)

Cheers,

Dave.

TimeToGo · 24 March 2009, 10:11 PM

They can not seem to get off the ground on Ebay. I agree with you that their presentation looks questionable.

idk01 · 24 March 2009, 10:13 PM

They want to follow the same form as their site, branding goes a long way :-)

Terry Newton · 25 March 2009, 03:28 AM

FLIMFLAMMAN!

Terry Newton

jdrolltide3838 · 25 March 2009, 03:33 AM

Since I may be going to Atlanta for the weekend, I emailed the guy and asked him if I could look at his watches in person before making a purchase. Stay tuned....

jdrolltide3838 · 25 March 2009, 03:42 AM

THe guy email back, said his store is in dowtown Atlanta but you need to inform him a day ahead of time of what Rolex you want so he can have it by them time you arrive. He says they dont keep many if any Rolex's in the store. However, he claims you have to make the payment before you arrive to pick it up. Pretty decent scam for someone unaware of whats going around these days

idk01 · 25 March 2009, 03:42 AM

:-) Staying Tuned

Cheers!

jdrolltide3838 · 25 March 2009, 03:45 AM

I sent the guy another email asking where exactly in Atlanta was so I could be sure to come by and if I did have to pay prior to coming in, and he told me he would not release any other information until I make a purchase due to other competitors. Wouldnt even tell me where the store was. Stay far, far away from this guy

idk01 · 25 March 2009, 03:47 AM

Ok this is getting more interesting and confirming my initial thoughts on this seller (eBay).

Seems a bit cloak and dagger so far.

jdrolltide3838 · 25 March 2009, 03:52 AM

Sad, if these people would spend as much time working making an honest living as they do scamming, they would double maybe triple their income. Lot of sad disgusting people out there today. As for this guy, I would stay completely away. He knows what I was trying to find out, which is why he said unless I make a purchase he wouldnt release any other info. I would do everything I could to get someone to come shop in my store, but of course Im not a scammer either. Anyway, good catch guys

jdrolltide3838 · 25 March 2009, 03:56 AM

Ok he just email me an address and a name for the store, but again told me to inform him a day or two ahead of time so he'll have what Im looking for. Its anyones guess, but if I was a bettin man....

TimeToGo · 25 March 2009, 05:09 AM

This is ridiculous!!!

Terry Newton · 25 March 2009, 05:39 AM

This seller has no auctions for sale at present. They all went on a walkabout.

Terry Newton

idk01 · 25 March 2009, 05:43 AM

Wow, didn't expect that.

TimeToGo · 25 March 2009, 06:41 AM

Outstanding work by all!!!!

idk01 · 25 March 2009, 01:47 PM

All watches have been resisted:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfin...atlantaQQhtZ-1

onkyo · 25 March 2009, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

All watches have been resisted:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfin...atlantaQQhtZ-1

Scammer is back in action.....

Not for long though.

Andad · 25 March 2009, 08:35 PM

You guys are SOOOO good.

TimeToGo · 25 March 2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

All watches have been resisted:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfin...atlantaQQhtZ-1

resisted

I thought I needed my coffee!

Still there..

24 March 2009, 04:17 PM	#1
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Submariner"50th Anniversary"Model#16610LV Never Worn Seller: finejewelryofatlanta( 0 ) Issue - Another LV that probably never existed thus Never Worn, this one smells Scumtilliumptios with a side of scam. Stock photo again, beckertime by the looks of it :-( *Rolex Oyster Perpetual Submariner Date, Man`s Size-40mm, Special "50th Anniversary" Model, 31-Jewel Chronometer Movement, Special Green Time-Lapse Bezel, Sapphire Crystal, Black Maxi Dial,Hour Markers, Stainless Steel Oyter Bracelet, Fliplock Clasp, Water Resistant to 300M., Model # 16610LV, "M" or "V" Serial Certificate of Authenticity, Never Worn, Retail Price : $6400.00 Now this seller puts a personal spin in the mix YOU WILL NOT FIND THIS PRICE NOWHERE IN THIS WORLD.MAY BE TRY ANOTHER PLANET..:) HURRY UP FOR MY WATCH!!!!! I GIVE THIS WATCH FOR THE BEST OFFER. COME ON!!!!!!!!!!! BE MY CUSTOMER AND GET THE BEST DEAL!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE ANY MODEL OF ROLEX WATCHES.CALL ME AND ASK FOR WHAT YOU LOKING FOR AND I`LL GET IT FOR THE LOWEST PRICE FOR YOU.TRY AND SEE.IT IS FREE..:) OTHER ROLEX SELLERS PLEASE DO NOT WASTE MY TIME FOR CHECKING MY PRICES. PLEASE CALL ME ONLY IF YOU ARE A SERIOUS BUYER. STORE # 404 681 5007 CELL # 678 468 7619 ASK FOR ABI. http://cgi.ebay.com/Submariner%2250th-Anniversary%22Model%2316610LV-Never-Worn-_W0QQitemZ250392526804QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2009032 1?IMSfp=TL090321173006r19024 Additional, Can of worms to be opened here. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfin...atlantaQQhtZ-1 Please check out his other tantalizing sales, to be posted soon on a TRF Watchout section NEAR YOU! __________________ Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth**

24 March 2009, 04:27 PM	#2
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Additional, Additional. The info eg sales after sales advice blah blah blah at the bottom that looks quite legit seems to be a slightly altered version of a cut and paste of 'interwatches' sales information. Link here - http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...d=interwatches __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

24 March 2009, 04:40 PM	#3
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Further investigation - Stolen photo from - here is two I found : http://www.2ndshop.com/index.php?lay...401679&Ntype=2 http://www.thewatchquote.com/The-mod...ers-No_378.htm (scroll to bottom) __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

24 March 2009, 09:48 PM	#5
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Hi TTG, I did see that post just after I pooped this one on, do you have a link to the site mentioned in the other discussion as I'm finding it a little hard to swallow that a reputable seller would be using the above dialogue and non original pictures. Just playing the usual investigation routes :-) Cheers, Dave. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

24 March 2009, 09:59 PM	#7
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Cheers __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

24 March 2009, 09:36 PM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,625	We have discussed this one before... http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...welryofatlanta

24 March 2009, 09:56 PM	#6
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,625	KCfinejewelry.com

24 March 2009, 10:08 PM	#8
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	TTG, That add up nicely :-) just unusual the transition between such a well presented site and the way out strange dialogue on the listed items on the bay at first glance is plain weird. Phone numbers and store details are spot on :-) All I can put it down to is a creative staff member LOL Thanks for pointing that one out :-) Cheers, Dave. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

24 March 2009, 10:11 PM	#9
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,625	They can not seem to get off the ground on Ebay. I agree with you that their presentation looks questionable.

24 March 2009, 10:13 PM	#10
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	They want to follow the same form as their site, branding goes a long way :-) __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 March 2009, 03:28 AM	#11
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	FLIMFLAMMAN! Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

25 March 2009, 03:33 AM	#12
jdrolltide3838 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: J.D. Location: Roll Tide, AL Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 695	Since I may be going to Atlanta for the weekend, I emailed the guy and asked him if I could look at his watches in person before making a purchase. Stay tuned....

25 March 2009, 03:42 AM	#13
jdrolltide3838 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: J.D. Location: Roll Tide, AL Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 695	THe guy email back, said his store is in dowtown Atlanta but you need to inform him a day ahead of time of what Rolex you want so he can have it by them time you arrive. He says they dont keep many if any Rolex's in the store. However, he claims you have to make the payment before you arrive to pick it up. Pretty decent scam for someone unaware of whats going around these days

25 March 2009, 03:42 AM	#14
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	:-) Staying Tuned Cheers! __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 March 2009, 03:45 AM	#15
jdrolltide3838 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: J.D. Location: Roll Tide, AL Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 695	I sent the guy another email asking where exactly in Atlanta was so I could be sure to come by and if I did have to pay prior to coming in, and he told me he would not release any other information until I make a purchase due to other competitors. Wouldnt even tell me where the store was. Stay far, far away from this guy

25 March 2009, 03:47 AM	#16
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Ok this is getting more interesting and confirming my initial thoughts on this seller (eBay). Seems a bit cloak and dagger so far. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 March 2009, 03:52 AM	#17
jdrolltide3838 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: J.D. Location: Roll Tide, AL Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 695	Sad, if these people would spend as much time working making an honest living as they do scamming, they would double maybe triple their income. Lot of sad disgusting people out there today. As for this guy, I would stay completely away. He knows what I was trying to find out, which is why he said unless I make a purchase he wouldnt release any other info. I would do everything I could to get someone to come shop in my store, but of course Im not a scammer either. Anyway, good catch guys

25 March 2009, 03:56 AM	#18
jdrolltide3838 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: J.D. Location: Roll Tide, AL Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 695	Ok he just email me an address and a name for the store, but again told me to inform him a day or two ahead of time so he'll have what Im looking for. Its anyones guess, but if I was a bettin man....

25 March 2009, 05:09 AM	#19
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,625	This is ridiculous!!!

25 March 2009, 05:39 AM	#20
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	This seller has no auctions for sale at present. They all went on a walkabout. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

25 March 2009, 05:43 AM	#21
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Wow, didn't expect that. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 March 2009, 06:41 AM	#22
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,625	Outstanding work by all!!!!

25 March 2009, 01:47 PM	#23
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	All watches have been resisted: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfin...atlantaQQhtZ-1 __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 March 2009, 08:35 PM	#25
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,952	You guys are SOOOO good. __________________ E

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