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tbone · 17 November 2012, 02:24 PM

I have a Rolex GMT master II with the ceramic bezel style number 116713N. I bought it in 2007 only wore it a couple of times has all the stickers tags boxes papers complete. My AD Panerai dealer has a brand-new 312 in stock and said that they will trade me even up out the door. Would you make this trade if so why or why not?

Monte Cristo · 17 November 2012, 03:11 PM

Would not trade a Rolex for a Pam. Love Pams but Rolex is Rolex!

Palmasea · 17 November 2012, 03:27 PM

You own my favorite Rolex for under 10k...

Unless you are looking for a bigger watch(especially taller) I would not make the trade.

Mickey® · 17 November 2012, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbone

I have a Rolex GMT master II with the ceramic bezel style number 116713N. I bought it in 2007 only wore it a couple of times has all the stickers tags boxes papers complete. My AD Panerai dealer has a brand-new 312 in stock and said that they will trade me even up out the door. Would you make this trade if so why or why not?

Which fits your life style better? Moreover which fits your wrist better?

Glenn422 · 17 November 2012, 03:33 PM

Don't let it bear on your decision just because your AD offered so, pick which one you like..Do you like your rolex more, or the PAM?

MP5 · 17 November 2012, 03:34 PM

no

wokafu · 17 November 2012, 03:38 PM

wow...i dont think its worth it..better save up if you really wanted a PAM...

DiverAsia · 17 November 2012, 03:58 PM

You have a beautiful Rolex, that you Do Not wear. Trade it.

Cru Jones · 17 November 2012, 05:28 PM

Congrats on your first post! Only took you five years after joining.

IMO, I see zero point in holding on to a watch you know you won't wear. That being said, I would check out sites to see if you are getting a fair deal, price wise. I don't know the current pricing for your Rolex, but, it just seems like you would be expecting a little bit of cash coming your way (then again, you are dealing with a dealer and they never give fair value on trades (though they do offer convenience))..

Good luck with the decision!

Glenn422 · 17 November 2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Congrats on your first post! Only took you five years after joining.

IMO, I see zero point in holding on to a watch you know you won't wear. That being said, I would check out sites to see if you are getting a fair deal, price wise. I don't know the current pricing for your Rolex, but, it just seems like you would be expecting a little bit of cash coming your way (then again, you are dealing with a dealer and they never give fair value on trades (though they do offer convenience))..

Good luck with the decision!

Wow I just noticed...

Kaylesdad · 17 November 2012, 07:56 PM

It would have to be one helluva PAM to trade a GMT for. I wouldn't do it but then again I would wear the GMT often. If the PAM will get wrist time then I'd consider it. My 2c worth.

dlhussain · 17 November 2012, 09:11 PM

If trade is fair then i'd definitely get the 312

gregvisser · 17 November 2012, 09:12 PM

I'm no expert here, so happy to be corrected. If it was a SS GMT master II for a Panerai 312 and you really wanted the 312, I'd say a straight up trade is probably a good deal. New, these watches have a very similar RRP.

For the GMT Master you have, I would not do the straight up trade. I would keep the Rolex or ask for a bit of cash as well.

Greg

travisb · 17 November 2012, 11:40 PM

Get or keep the one you want most but I would not do a straight trade.
There should be cash coming your way.
Or sell the TT GMT-C and go buy the 312 at a discount.

David S · 18 November 2012, 03:04 PM

Don't do it. If u really want a rolex just buy a rolex. I wear my panerai quite often. but its nice to have a different type of watch for a different occasion. I also have a GMT master and I think they are so different that you should have them both.

BNA/LION · 18 November 2012, 03:08 PM

Keep the Rolex and put it in your rotation. Once you start wearing it you will love it.

nick c · 18 November 2012, 10:36 PM

No

Travelller · 19 November 2012, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbone

I have a Rolex GMT master II with the ceramic bezel style number 116713N. I bought it in 2007 only wore it a couple of times has all the stickers tags boxes papers complete. My AD Panerai dealer has a brand-new 312 in stock and said that they will trade me even up out the door. Would you make this trade if so why or why not?

Two-tone...? Well, never mind; point being, as a few other members above noted, if you don't like the 116713N - for whatever reason, then flip it. The question is how / when to flip it. I'm no Rolex expert and I don't know the value of a LNIB 116713N. Price seems to swing from $8K~$9K. Will it go up in value? Can you afford to buy the 312 (~$8K) and hold on to the GMTMII?

Good luck with your decision & keep us posted

p_mcgee · 19 November 2012, 09:11 AM

The GMT is worth more. Which one to keep is a matter of personal preference, but I'd try to get cash back in a trade.

Babolat · 27 November 2012, 03:46 AM

I also have the 116713 and am looking for my first PAM... I would not get rid of your gmt - it's a fantastic watch !!
IMO keep the gmt and save up.for the pam.
Can get some good deals on 312 on TRF

Good luck ....

john333 · 27 November 2012, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

IMO, I see zero point in holding on to a watch you know you won't wear. That being said, I would check out sites to see if you are getting a fair deal, price wise. I don't know the current pricing for your Rolex, but, it just seems like you would be expecting a little bit of cash coming your way (then again, you are dealing with a dealer and they never give fair value on trades (though they do offer convenience))..

Good luck with the decision!

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisb

Get or keep the one you want most but I would not do a straight trade.
There should be cash coming your way.
Or sell the TT GMT-C and go buy the 312 at a discount.

Agreed with both points above. If you are not wearing your TT GMTIIc then there is no point keeping it...regardless of how much others on this forum may like it, you should move it and make room for something that does sing to you. That said, there is no way I would do it for a straight up trade. Sell your GMT first and then go to your dealer and discuss a discounted price for cash. The other option is to work with some of the trusted sellers here on TRF.

Trailblazer · 27 November 2012, 12:27 PM

I like both brands but this trade is a no no for me. IMO the GMT is way too comfy compared among this 2.

TSW · 28 November 2012, 06:31 AM

No

amigomason · 28 November 2012, 06:34 AM

Love my Pam but a Rolex is a Rolex :)

MortgageGuy · 28 November 2012, 02:54 PM

I also have a 116713 and love it. That being said I love my Pams too. IMO if you are not wearing the Rolex flip it however I believe there is a much better deal to be had. I would contact DavidSW or Bodybump here on TRF (trusted sellers) and you will get treated much better and a better deal

andyboy39 · 28 November 2012, 04:39 PM

No, I would keep the GMT personally, save up and get the PAM later..

17 November 2012, 02:24 PM	#1
tbone "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1	To trade or not? I have a Rolex GMT master II with the ceramic bezel style number 116713N. I bought it in 2007 only wore it a couple of times has all the stickers tags boxes papers complete. My AD Panerai dealer has a brand-new 312 in stock and said that they will trade me even up out the door. Would you make this trade if so why or why not?

17 November 2012, 03:11 PM	#2
Monte Cristo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Watch: ing you... Posts: 3,775	Would not trade a Rolex for a Pam. Love Pams but Rolex is Rolex! __________________ 'I am easily satisfied with the very best' - Winston Churchill

17 November 2012, 03:38 PM	#7
wokafu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: SM300+14060M Posts: 2,012	wow...i dont think its worth it..better save up if you really wanted a PAM... __________________ 14060M SM300 PAM000 Poljot-BAIKAL G Shock

17 November 2012, 03:58 PM	#8
DiverAsia "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Rich Location: Taiwan Watch: 16014 16610 372 Posts: 1,044	You have a beautiful Rolex, that you Do Not wear. Trade it. __________________ He's a rebel and a runner He's a signal turning green He's a restless young romantic Wants to run the big machine

17 November 2012, 09:11 PM	#12
dlhussain "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: London Posts: 184	If trade is fair then i'd definitely get the 312 __________________ Current: Rolex 116610LV, AP 15202ST, PP 5170P, PP 5712A Grail: PP 5208P

17 November 2012, 03:27 PM	#3
Palmasea "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southern CA. Watch: JLC~AP~RLX~PAM~UN Posts: 360	You own my favorite Rolex for under 10k... Unless you are looking for a bigger watch(especially taller) I would not make the trade.

17 November 2012, 03:33 PM	#5
Glenn422 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: TRF Posts: 721	Don't let it bear on your decision just because your AD offered so, pick which one you like..Do you like your rolex more, or the PAM?

17 November 2012, 03:34 PM	#6
MP5 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 2,881	no

17 November 2012, 05:28 PM	#9
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,537	Congrats on your first post! Only took you five years after joining. IMO, I see zero point in holding on to a watch you know you won't wear. That being said, I would check out sites to see if you are getting a fair deal, price wise. I don't know the current pricing for your Rolex, but, it just seems like you would be expecting a little bit of cash coming your way (then again, you are dealing with a dealer and they never give fair value on trades (though they do offer convenience)).. Good luck with the decision!

17 November 2012, 07:56 PM	#11
Kaylesdad "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Lawrence Location: Sydney Watch: Daytona, sub Posts: 167	It would have to be one helluva PAM to trade a GMT for. I wouldn't do it but then again I would wear the GMT often. If the PAM will get wrist time then I'd consider it. My 2c worth.

17 November 2012, 09:12 PM	#13
gregvisser "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Greg Visser Location: New Zealand Posts: 546	I'm no expert here, so happy to be corrected. If it was a SS GMT master II for a Panerai 312 and you really wanted the 312, I'd say a straight up trade is probably a good deal. New, these watches have a very similar RRP. For the GMT Master you have, I would not do the straight up trade. I would keep the Rolex or ask for a bit of cash as well. Greg

17 November 2012, 11:40 PM	#14
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,315	Get or keep the one you want most but I would not do a straight trade. There should be cash coming your way. Or sell the TT GMT-C and go buy the 312 at a discount.

18 November 2012, 03:04 PM	#15
David S "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Patek 5712 Posts: 43	Don't do it. If u really want a rolex just buy a rolex. I wear my panerai quite often. but its nice to have a different type of watch for a different occasion. I also have a GMT master and I think they are so different that you should have them both.

18 November 2012, 03:08 PM	#16
BNA/LION 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,237	Keep the Rolex and put it in your rotation. Once you start wearing it you will love it. __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

18 November 2012, 10:36 PM	#17
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	No

19 November 2012, 09:11 AM	#19
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,149	The GMT is worth more. Which one to keep is a matter of personal preference, but I'd try to get cash back in a trade.

27 November 2012, 03:46 AM	#20
Babolat "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Watch: TT GMTIIc V Series Posts: 222	I also have the 116713 and am looking for my first PAM... I would not get rid of your gmt - it's a fantastic watch !! IMO keep the gmt and save up.for the pam. Can get some good deals on 312 on TRF Good luck ....

27 November 2012, 12:27 PM	#22
Trailblazer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Cab Location: A small world Watch: es Posts: 776	I like both brands but this trade is a no no for me. IMO the GMT is way too comfy compared among this 2.

28 November 2012, 06:31 AM	#23
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	No __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

28 November 2012, 06:34 AM	#24
amigomason "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: boston Posts: 89	Love my Pam but a Rolex is a Rolex :)

28 November 2012, 02:54 PM	#25
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	I also have a 116713 and love it. That being said I love my Pams too. IMO if you are not wearing the Rolex flip it however I believe there is a much better deal to be had. I would contact DavidSW or Bodybump here on TRF (trusted sellers) and you will get treated much better and a better deal __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

28 November 2012, 04:39 PM	#26
andyboy39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Zealand Watch: Day Date Posts: 1,409	No, I would keep the GMT personally, save up and get the PAM later..

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