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29 March 2020, 11:59 PM | #1 |
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Originality of this 6605?
Can anyone help regarding the originality of this DJ 6605 for sale on Chrono24?
https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/datej...id14678487.htm The hands appear ok to me, but I'm not sure if the dial is a later dial. The watch is from 1961 and all the DJ's I have seen from this time have a "Swiss" radium dial. This one is marked "-T Swiss T-". Any feedback would be much appreciated. |
30 March 2020, 12:37 AM | #2 |
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I think your right it should be a Swiss only dial. It would have been nice of them to provide the serial # I own a 1,003 that is a underline dial " transitional " period and a 823, and a 880, both of them are Swiss only
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I would assume it’s a later dial.
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What do the dashed lines mean,
-T Swiss T- ? |
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In the 70's, the gold industry wanted to tout gold products, so watches started marking those dials with gold indices with a sigma mark that looks a little bit like a small o.
Gold index dials of that era were marked oT Swiss To, and steel market dials were marked -T Swiss T-, so there was no confusion.
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I have seen many SS watches with the Sigma dial (small o). Are these all wearing incorrect dials originally made for gold watches? Lastly, I am currently looking at a very nice yellow gold OP date from ~1978. The watch has a sigma dial (small 0), but my understanding is that these sigma dials were only used for a few years in the early '70's. Is there any way this is an original dial on a watch from 1978? |
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The sigma refers to the indices material, not the watch case.
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Does this mean the Gold 6605 has a dial with SS markers?
Is there any way this dial is original to the watch? I'm also looking at at a 1978 Yellow Gold Oyster Perpetual Date Reference 1503, 5.2 mil serial with a sigma dial. This seems late for a sigma dial. Is there any way a sigma dial is correct and original to the watch? |
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You often see the -T SWISS T- on 1963/64 Rolex watches. I’ve mostly seen it on Daytonas (6239/6240) but I would still keep it in that era. Not in the 70’s.
I wouldn’t be too bothered about this on a Datejust. What is the serial of the watch?
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Why do you think the dial in my original post is not original to the watch? I know most from that era have a Swiss dial, but it seems to be close to the time of transition to tritium. |
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Hi Per, the Rolex Datejust in question from my original post is a 1961. Thanks for your feedback and pic of the Daytona (beauty). I still don't know it the dial could be original to the gold DJ.....there are conflicting opinions here. That is the purpose of the forum as I know there are no hard rules with Rolex.
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I haven't been able to get in touch with the seller so can't confirm the serial number. I am just going by the seller's ad. But assuming it is from 1961, does the dial appear correct and original to you?
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Find out the serial and search for similar watches. Then you will get a feeling for if it is touched or not. Personally I would not be bothered at all if a Datejust had a replaced dial. If that is the case.
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Here’s a similar watch.
https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...-18k-6605-2128 I would assume yours to also have a later dial. Knowing the serial would confirm it.
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Here is one early 6605 Swiss only CN 257XXX
Hopefully you will find this useful
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Thanks for all the help. I cannot get in contact with the seller now and assume his is on lock down. I'll report back if/when I get the serial number. In the meantime, I believe this is likely a later dial as most have pointed out.
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