Need Help, 5513 Insert won't fit bezel

[barbosas]

Hi,

I won this ebay auction for a 5513 bezel but my insert now won't fit, it's like a fraction of a mm larger then the bezel ring.

Do you think the bezel might not be genuine? Do you think t's just a matter of doing the right pressure for it to fit?

On the picture it has a space between the insert and the bezel but if I do some pressure on it, it won't fit for just a fraction of a mm...

Please help me, if by any chance the bezel is not the real thing I can still talk to him through eBay/paypal.

[TimeToGo]

Some inserts are "difficult" to fit on bezels, speaking from personal experience. Others will snap right in.

Is this your first time attempting this feat?

Also, is the insert genuine?

[barbosas]

Yes it is, It fits perfectly on another Bezel.

I'm more worried that the bezel is not :(

[TimeToGo]

This is a tough call. I can't tell if your insert is genuine based on that picture.

Also, who is to say that your other bezel is genuine.

Just curious, will your newly Ebay purchased bezel (without the insert) fit your 5513?

[barbosas]

Hi, yes the bezel ring does fit on the watch.

[Kingair]

This should do the job . . . ;-)

But don't hit it too hard !

HAGOne

[barbosas]

lol, if that's the case I've got just the right tool at home :)

I've googled a bit and i'm gonna try what they say at this thread.

If it doesn't work I'm better off taking it to a competent professional :)

Let me know your opinions regarding the ebay bezel authenticity, there's some more photos at the auction.

Thank You

Originally Posted by Kingair

This should do the job . . . ;-)

But don't hit it too hard !

HAGOne

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by barbosas

lol, if that's the case I've got just the right tool at home :)

I've googled a bit and i'm gonna try what they say at this thread.

If it doesn't work I'm better off taking it to a competent professional :)

Let me know your opinions regarding the ebay bezel authenticity, there's some more photos at the auction.

Thank You

Give it a shot . . .

This can just to the trick ;-)

There is also a video on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ev6DJT0P4U

HAGOne

[John in MA]

As others have said, getting inserts to fit some bezels are a real PITA.

On my 1680 I have two bezels. The original that came wtih the watch and a service replacement.

Inserts snap into the service replacement with no problems. To get a modern replacement to fit the original 1976 bezel, I have to force it and it actually shaves a very small sliver of aluminum off in the process.

[Johny]

perhaps put the bezel in boiling water and the insert in the freezer for a while and then give it a try. best of luck with it.

[Hawk99]

Originally Posted by Johny

perhaps put the bezel in boiling water and the insert in the freezer for a while and then give it a try. best of luck with it.

Brilliant!!

[pdoukas]

Originally Posted by Hawk99

Brilliant!!

X2


Sent from a guy on mobile phone who could care less about spelling errors!

[barbosas]

The boiled and freeze thing didn't work :(

I resolved the problem sanding a bit of the insert, it fitted just nicely after a bit of sanding, it was a very tiny bit of sanding, but enough for it to fit.. man.. this thing got to a point where it was a question of honour, I had to do it on my own :)

Thank you all for your help

[Hawk99]

Let`s see a picture of the finished product!!!!

[TimeToGo]

Congratulations!

[Johny]

Originally Posted by barbosas

The boiled and freeze thing didn't work :(

I resolved the problem sanding a bit of the insert, it fitted just nicely after a bit of sanding, it was a very tiny bit of sanding, but enough for it to fit.. man.. this thing got to a point where it was a question of honour, I had to do it on my own :)

Thank you all for your help

hi did you have to sand the black edge finish back to bare aluminium finish to get it to fit?

[Johny]

Originally Posted by Hawk99

Let`s see a picture of the finished product!!!!

pic would be cool.

[Warnsboy]

The sanding thing is not the right solution.....The insert is tapered and sometimes get's flattened when changing or from shipping. This flattening increases the diameter of the outside of the insert. The correct fit can be achieved by use of a Rolex tool designed for reshaping the insert, or by my method, which involves putting the insert on the long neck of a wine bottle and using your thumbs around the outside of the insert and pushing down, in increments around the insert , with firm pressure, without bending it, to restore the original taper. This corrects the outside diameter of the insert. It will snap in place firmly like it should......only a fraction of a mm makes the difference. With a Sub insert you must be very carefull with pressure or you could break the insert at the 12:00 pearl.....

Just my 2 cents

[jjmcny]

Originally Posted by Warnsboy

..The insert is tapered and sometimes get's flattened when changing or from shipping. This flattening increases the diameter of the outside of the insert.

EXACTLY! Classic issue-great new solution.

[BlackBay]

That insert doesn't look genuine ... Or maybe because it's vintage..

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by Warnsboy

The sanding thing is not the right solution.....The insert is tapered and sometimes get's flattened when changing or from shipping. This flattening increases the diameter of the outside of the insert. The correct fit can be achieved by use of a Rolex tool designed for reshaping the insert, or by my method, which involves putting the insert on the long neck of a wine bottle and using your thumbs around the outside of the insert and pushing down, in increments around the insert , with firm pressure, without bending it, to restore the original taper. This corrects the outside diameter of the insert. It will snap in place firmly like it should......only a fraction of a mm makes the difference. With a Sub insert you must be very carefull with pressure or you could break the insert at the 12:00 pearl.....

Just my 2 cents

Thanks for the tip !

HAGOne