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Old 12 August 2018, 05:20 PM   #1
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Which modern Rolex sports model you think is the worst commercial flop

I was at my local boutique (its hk everyone goes grey market), and started a discussion about literally the worst selling model Rolex have ever released. Now I know a lot of you will say Cellini, so I am counting that out. We are only talking sports model here.

To me without a shadow of doubt, is the white gold Yacht Master II with the platinum bezel. It was meant to be the creme de la creme of the range, its resale value is now often lower than the two tone version.

I also think the Deepsea is a flawed model, but then again, the sales seem to be strong, I used to like the D blue until I wore it for 3 months and couldn't stand the sight of it.

What do you guys think?
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Old 12 August 2018, 05:22 PM   #2
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ok. thanks for sharing your thoughts out loud.
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Old 12 August 2018, 05:27 PM   #3
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Interested to know why the Deepsea is flawed, not everyone's cup of tea, but I’m not sure it’s flawed
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Old 12 August 2018, 05:35 PM   #4
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Interested to know why the Deepsea is flawed, not everyone's cup of tea, but Iím not sure itís flawed
I feel that is is imbalanced. I am currently wearing AP 26470BA, so I am no stranger to heavy watches, I felt that the Deepsea created an imbalance on my wrist, too top heavy and does not wear comfortably.

It could just be me, but as a solid Sea Dweller fan, I did not see the Deepsea as an improvement.
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Old 12 August 2018, 05:43 PM   #5
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Deep sea is cartoon watch.
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Old 12 August 2018, 05:49 PM   #6
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I feel that is is imbalanced. I am currently wearing AP 26470BA, so I am no stranger to heavy watches, I felt that the Deepsea created an imbalance on my wrist, too top heavy and does not wear comfortably.

It could just be me, but as a solid Sea Dweller fan, I did not see the Deepsea as an improvement.
Maybe you’re right Ed, after all, Rolex have seen fit to alter the bracelet this year, to a wider, some say more balanced affair.
Personally I love my ‘MK 1’ Deepseas, I’ve got all the fancy SS Rolex, that everyone covets, and you can believe it or not, but my go to watch is usually my Black Deepsea.

Though not as popular as Sub’s, GMT’s and Daytona’s, they certainly don’t languish in glass cabinets unsold for too long, at least in the UK.
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Old 12 August 2018, 06:11 PM   #7
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ok. thanks for sharing your thoughts out loud.
Thanks Ed.

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Im sure the deepsea was never designed with comfort or style in mind as it is designed to do what it does best and thats go deep.
Actually, the Deepsea in the 126660 (2018 update) is very comfortable,* and I’m left to conclude that comfort was seriously pursued along with the over-engineering. I bought mine as a weekend watch and it is becoming my daily wearer. I’ll do my best not to get road rage in three months.


*I have no wrist time with the 116660 so I have no idea, but I have always been a fan of it’s appearance.
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Old 12 August 2018, 06:14 PM   #8
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I feel that is is imbalanced. I am currently wearing AP 26470BA, so I am no stranger to heavy watches, I felt that the Deepsea created an imbalance on my wrist, too top heavy and does not wear comfortably.

It could just be me, but as a solid Sea Dweller fan, I did not see the Deepsea as an improvement.
Im sure the deepsea was never designed with comfort or style in mind as it is designed to do what it does best and thats go deep.
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Old 12 August 2018, 06:47 PM   #9
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Im sure the deepsea was never designed with comfort or style in mind as it is designed to do what it does best and thats go deep.
X2 and usually these threads don't end well
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Old 12 August 2018, 06:53 PM   #10
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Even though I own one I would say the 16613 serti in any combo did't sell well.
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Old 12 August 2018, 06:57 PM   #11
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Even though I own one I would say the 16613 serti in any combo did't sell well.
It was a very popular watch and a good seller.
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Old 12 August 2018, 06:59 PM   #12
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I was at my local boutique (its hk everyone goes grey market), and started a discussion about literally the worst selling model Rolex have ever released. Now I know a lot of you will say Cellini, so I am counting that out. We are only talking sports model here.

To me without a shadow of doubt, is the white gold Yacht Master II with the platinum bezel. It was meant to be the creme de la creme of the range, its resale value is now often lower than the two tone version.

I also think the Deepsea is a flawed model, but then again, the sales seem to be strong, I used to like the D blue until I wore it for 3 months and couldn't stand the sight of it.

What do you guys think?
I have mine (DSSD) since 2008 and i should say it gets 50% of my wrist time!
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Old 12 August 2018, 07:07 PM   #13
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Today’s flop, is tomorrow’s Paul Newman!
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Old 12 August 2018, 08:16 PM   #14
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ok. thanks for sharing your thoughts out loud.


Ha ha ha.


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Old 12 August 2018, 08:33 PM   #15
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Didn't realize that about the 16613 serti subs. Thank you!
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Old 12 August 2018, 08:41 PM   #16
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My Deepsea is very comfortable. It's not cartoony at all.. you just need the body frame to support it. A guy that's 5'8" 165 isn't the same as 6'2" 225 wearing one. But each will work in their own way.

Preference is just that. I think all Pateks and APs are horrid. That's me. A billion other people are contrarian to that, and that's fine!
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Old 12 August 2018, 08:43 PM   #17
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I was offered a Deep Sea Cameron at MSRP recently, I loved the blue/black dial but was disappointed when I tried it on, the watch felt unbalanced. The salesperson, kept saying how fortunate I was to be offered the watch, but it was also a lot of money for a watch I didn't want so I respectfully declined.

I'm not sure why anyone would buy a watch built for deep sea diving and wear it every day. I would think a GMT would be far more comfortable and practical and would think it would be the most sought after watch. I certainly respect the people who bought the watch and dive with a deep sea. I somewhat feel the same about the Submariner, why buy one if your not going to dive with it.
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Old 12 August 2018, 08:49 PM   #18
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I was offered a Deep Sea Cameron at MSRP recently, I loved the blue/black dial but was disappointed when I tried it on, the watch felt unbalanced. The salesperson, kept saying how fortunate I was to be offered the watch, but it was also a lot of money for a watch I didn't want so I respectfully declined.

I'm not sure why anyone would buy a watch built for deep sea diving and wear it every day. I would think a GMT would be far more comfortable and practical and would think it would be the most sought after watch. I certainly respect the people who bought the watch and dive with a deep sea. I somewhat feel the same about the Submariner, why buy one if your not going to dive with it.
Obviously you are a pilot and track the different timezones with a GMT
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Old 12 August 2018, 09:00 PM   #19
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Again none of my post is meant to come off as offensive. I myself am 6’2 220 pounds with an almost 8 inch wrist, just sharing my personal subjective experience as a previous owner of the D Blue.

That being said, the deep sea is certainly not a commercial flop.
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Old 12 August 2018, 09:20 PM   #20
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The current Air King is definitely the biggest flop. That YM you're talking about is quite nice, it's just expensive. If it were a few thousand dollars less retail it would fly off the shelves. Meanwhile the Air King is only like $5,000 plus a bit, and almost every AD has one.
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Old 12 August 2018, 09:25 PM   #21
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Although I myself own a Seadweller 4000, at the time it wasnít really appreciated when on sale until after discontinued. This could be seen as a flop commercially possibly
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Old 12 August 2018, 09:30 PM   #22
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The WG YM2 is the one I have seen least of here.
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Old 12 August 2018, 09:58 PM   #23
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Old 12 August 2018, 11:27 PM   #24
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Although I myself own a Seadweller 4000, at the time it wasnít really appreciated when on sale until after discontinued. This could be seen as a flop commercially possibly
The SD4000 is definitely proof that Rolex is responsive to the market, contrary to many saying otherwise.
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Old 13 August 2018, 01:26 AM   #25
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x2 on the fact these threads don't end well. There is a fine line between being able to tactfully voice your opinion and calling something a name like "cartoonish" or "clownish" and offending the owners of that watch.
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x2 on the fact these threads don't end well. There is a fine line between being able to tactfully voice your opinion and calling something a name like "cartoonish" or "clownish" and offending the owners of that watch.
Well said. I don’t care at the end of the day. I remember the Explorer II when it was updated to 42mm, and the orange fat 24 hour hand was being blasted by some for being cartoonish. Others loved it. Eye poking on social media is really a ‘who cares’. It just doesn’t matter.
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