5513 Maxi Pumpkin?

[jm434]

Hi Guys,

Am planning on getting my first ever vintage rolex (I currently wear a PP 5711/1A and 5167A) and I am wondering if there is such a 5513 Maxi Pumpkin dial? I think I want a 5513 in Maxi Dial with a strong pumpkin (orange) patina. I tried looking on this forum and all over the internet but only came across a handful and I am not sure if it is due to the lighting. I saw some really orange / pumpkin dials on some 1680 and hope I can find something like that on a 5513. Would really appreciate if someone can help me out here and perhaps advice where is a good place for me to look (and how much would I be looking at)? Thanks!

Regards,
J

[Franks07]

Be careful! Dial coloration can be done to suit a buyer's taste and that's not a good thing in terms of originality and value. Lots of info on this forum if you use the search function creatively. Buyer beware.

[er1cw]

Sorry to hijack the threat. Came across this 1680 with very desirable pumpkin patina. Does it look like a stimulated patina?



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[jm434]

I guess I am looking for something similar to this? https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...maxi-dial-A590

[lhanddds]

Originally Posted by jm434

I guess I am looking for something similar to this? https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...maxi-dial-A590

I personally don’t see as many 5513s with this dark orange patina. You do see it on 1680s though. You might check the Vintage Concept website. His watches seem to have more patina but I can’t say it’s all legit.


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[77T]

I think Haywood’s dial description is instructive: “Excellent black MK I Maxi with orange markers. Hands have been color matched to the dial. The dial has some light fading at the edge of the 4 o’clock section.”

Note that if hands can be color matched, so too can a dial’s hour plots. Not saying that particular watch was thusly done - just that whatever you see from sellers online could be.

Noticing your concerns about the coloration - I would steer clear of online deals unless the seller is an expert beyond question. That his/her policies permit returns for ANY reason. And that they guarantee an un-refinished or “refreshed” dial.

Best to inspect in person before purchase if possible. Excluding any desire for 100% originality, then color matching the plots and hands to your pumpkin preference is an option.


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[swish77]

In cases like this, a blacklight (UV) on the dial/hands can often tell you what’s going on. If everything is uniform and responds to the light the same, it can be a sign of all original tritium. If something looks different under the blacklight, such as one hour marker or the hands, that’s a good clue something has been changed. I’ve seen color-matched hands under UV, and they didn’t react to the light the same way as the tritium on the dial. I’m not saying it’s an absolute fail safe way to know, but it can certainly help.

[Haywood_Milton]

Originally Posted by 77T

I think Haywood’s dial description is instructive: “Excellent black MK I Maxi with orange markers. Hands have been color matched to the dial. The dial has some light fading at the edge of the 4 o’clock section.”

Note that if hands can be color matched, so too can a dial’s hour plots. Not saying that particular watch was thusly done - just that whatever you see from sellers online could be.

Noticing your concerns about the coloration - I would steer clear of online deals unless the seller is an expert beyond question. That his/her policies permit returns for ANY reason. And that they guarantee an un-refinished or “refreshed” dial.

Best to inspect in person before purchase if possible. Excluding any desire for 100% originality, then color matching the plots and hands to your pumpkin preference is an option.


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I think that you have confused me, the individual Haywood Milton in the UK, with the business "HQ Milton" in America. I'm not sure why they chose that name for their business but it does bring occasional confusion....

I don't think I have anything to do with any of the watches in this thread.

H

[77T]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

I think that you have confused me, the individual Haywood Milton in the UK, with the business "HQ Milton" in America. I'm not sure why they chose that name for their business but it does bring occasional confusion....

I don't think I have anything to do with any of the watches in this thread.

H

Ahhh...yes you are correct, I am confused

[R!$]

yes there are lumes that have oranged but they dont call it the "pumpkin" sub

[Bxtek]

I'm fairly new to vintage and I have been learning a lot here on TRF. I do have a question that I've been wondering about for awhile. What is the draw and attraction to "features" like these? "Pumpkin" lume? Tropical dials? Faded inserts? Basically these "features" are damages done to the dial over time. Wouldn't it be more desirable to have an original watch without these features? Or, do people like the way they look because it goes along with the vintage theme, and are willing to pay more for them?

[swish77]

Originally Posted by Bxtek

I'm fairly new to vintage and I have been learning a lot here on TRF. I do have a question that I've been wondering about for awhile. What is the draw and attraction to "features" like these? "Pumpkin" lume? Tropical dials? Faded inserts? Basically these "features" are damages done to the dial over time. Wouldn't it be more desirable to have an original watch without these features? Or, do people like the way they look because it goes along with the vintage theme, and are willing to pay more for them?

Yes, to the last part.

[Bxtek]

Originally Posted by swish77

Yes, to the last part.

Thank You!

[omitohud]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

I think that you have confused me, the individual Haywood Milton in the UK, with the business "HQ Milton" in America. I'm not sure why they chose that name for their business but it does bring occasional confusion....

I don't think I have anything to do with any of the watches in this thread.

H

Lol. U know what they say, “imitation is the best flattery“.

To OP. Be careful with what u wish for. A couple years ago, there were a bunch of deep orange pumpkin dial watches flooded the market. I can’t prove they’ve been tampered. But I have heard ways of “enhancing” the color of the lume which I don’t plan to share on public forum.


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