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Old 16 November 2007, 10:22 AM   #1
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GMT-Master II - Interesting Noise

Ok, so am I obsessive, but one should be when paying over $5K for a watch!

Take watch off wrist, and hold band tightly so it does not rattle in any way. Now move watch back and forth near your ear. You will hear the predictable sound of the rotor moving back and forth which winds the watch. But I also hear what sounds like a small BB (ball bearing) sound, almost like something is loose in there.

Tell me this is normal.
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Old 16 November 2007, 10:42 AM   #2
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sounds like the same sound my new TT Sub

is doing. Mine is right now at the RSC, this is not normal. Have it service asap. I should get mine back next week. My guess our watch got pass the quality check, even though it should not. Nothing the RSC can't fix.
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Old 16 November 2007, 10:51 AM   #3
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is doing. Mine is right now at the RSC, this is not normal. Have it service asap. I should get mine back next week. My guess our watch got pass the quality check, even though it should not. Nothing the RSC can't fix.

Are you sure it's not the normal sound of the rotor? It sounds loose, but perhaps other GMT II's sound the same way. Anyone else with a 3186 movement want to comment?
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Old 16 November 2007, 10:56 AM   #4
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Are you sure it's not the normal sound of the rotor? It sounds loose, but perhaps other GMT II's sound the same way. Anyone else with a 3186 movement want to comment?
I'm sure, the RSC Tech told me its not normal. Mine sounds exactly like a bearing or some kind of small part loose when I shake it. It drove me crazy, just bought the watch couple of weeks ago. Can't believe its happening to a Rolex, at any rate Rolex factory is not perfect. Get it service you'll be happy.
The sub kept running, its weird, built like a tank.
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Old 16 November 2007, 10:59 AM   #5
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I hear a slight ticking sound.....
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Old 16 November 2007, 11:07 AM   #6
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Guys, I think I found the answer. Bo explained it perfectly (like a small glass ball moving in a tube).

Check out this thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ghlight=rattle

I am convinced the watch is 'OK'
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Old 16 November 2007, 11:15 AM   #7
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Guys, I think I found the answer. Bo explained it perfectly (like a small glass ball moving in a tube).

Check out this thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ghlight=rattle

I am convinced the watch is 'OK'
I read the thread. Mine makes the noise either way, shaking it 9 to 3 and 12 to 6. Goodluck
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Old 16 November 2007, 11:23 AM   #8
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I think if I took off the bracelet, the sound would go away. There are simply too many people that have had the same issue, and it's the end-link sound, not the watch itself.
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Old 16 November 2007, 11:41 AM   #9
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If you can isolate the noise as definitely coming from the rotor it is not normal. Mine is in the shop right now for the same reason and having several parts replaced including the reverser.
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Old 16 November 2007, 11:50 AM   #10
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If you can isolate the noise as definitely coming from the rotor it is not normal. Mine is in the shop right now for the same reason and having several parts replaced including the reverser.
I was able to hold the end-links tightly and there is no noise coming from the watch case. So in this case, as was in so many cases, it's coming from the bracelet.
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Old 16 November 2007, 07:25 PM   #11
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No worries.

Believe me, I had my watch checked and double-checked back then (see my thread that was linked to above).

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Old 16 November 2007, 07:49 PM   #12
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In my thread back then:

"Question about ROTOR NOISE! Help needed!" CLICK!

I promised to post something, but I forgot.

I quoute:

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I have had quite a few Rolex watches, and I have a habit that I carry out every morning when getting out of bed:

I take my Rolex that has been lying crown up on the bedside table during the night and then I put the watch over FOUR of my fingers with the dial pointing up.

Being sure that the watch bracelet is "expanded" fully by my four aligned fingers, I gently TILT the watch like this:

From the position "Crown UP" to the position "Crown DOWN" and I tilt the watch back and forth between those to positions about 20 times (not fast or vigorously, just GENTLY in "1 sec intervals") to give the power reserve some boost from the lost power reserve during the night.
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BTW: That special way of moving the watch in the morning (or evening before going to bed) - let's call it the "3-9 axis movement" - I found in a link, and when I come home from work, I will find that link in my Bookmarks and post it here.

Here is the link from my bookmark I refer to above:

Watch questions and answers! CLICK!

And I quote from there:

"Or, use your free manual labor, and just grasp watch by watchband securely and in a back and fourth motion, keeping the crown toward and away from you, so as to let the oscillating weight to move in the same fashion inside, give the watch a 50-75 gentle shakes before going to bed."

BTW: The above link is an interesting read as a whole, IMHO.

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Old 19 November 2007, 01:59 AM   #13
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Bearing in a glass tube

Hi saw this being referred to in a similar post as a sound that is similar to a bearing rolling in a glass tube (good characterization). My 116710 has the same noise, but my older D series 16710 also has a similar noise with the oyster band removed (removing any confusion with bracelet noise).

I think its okay.... It has not affected any workings of the watch as far as I can tell.

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Old 19 November 2007, 02:52 AM   #14
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Hi saw this being referred to in a similar post as a sound that is similar to a bearing rolling in a glass tube (good characterization). My 116710 has the same noise, but my older D series 16710 also has a similar noise with the oyster band removed (removing any confusion with bracelet noise).

I think its okay.... It has not affected any workings of the watch as far as I can tell.

-Sheldon
Sheldon, which one is the D series? I have the latest 16710 (not 116710). What series is mine? My S/N is Z36xxxx
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Old 19 November 2007, 03:08 AM   #15
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Sheldon, which one is the D series? I have the latest 16710 (not 116710). What series is mine? My S/N is Z36xxxx
Greg, your watch is a Z series. The letter in the serial number indicates the series.
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Old 19 November 2007, 04:39 AM   #16
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Serial Letters...

My 116710 is a Z series (they are only available as Z or the newer M)

The 16710 (traditional) is a D series....

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