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Old 28 February 2020, 04:31 AM   #31
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Are you joking? Look at the IIIIIII printing near the 10 past (or 2) position. The black ink is uneven.

The OP is even admitting that the dial has a mark which is impossible on a brand new ROLEX. It can happen as a result of a factory fault such as misalligned hands but that is not the case here...

Whats the relevance with being graduated recently and getting a Daytona to the thread...Total ....
It is not impossible for a dial to come with a mark from the rolex factory. It has absolutely happened in the past.

I am not saying this watch is real or fake based upon the minimal pictures, but to make a blanket statement like that is inaccurate.
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:31 AM   #32
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:33 AM   #33
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All my messages are waiting to be approved by the moderator. Only thing I see, many amateurs... who might even have never seen an 116500ln in person. Bear with me

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Old 28 February 2020, 04:33 AM   #34
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:33 AM   #35
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It is not impossible for a dial to come with a mark from the rolex factory. It has absolutely happened in the past.

I am not saying this watch is real or fake based upon the minimal pictures, but to make a blanket statement like that is inaccurate.
There are black seconds markers which are black printed. The ink is missing. Also the hands have marks.

If the watch is genuine and have all of those issues, then I am seeing it for the first time... Why other members Daytonas are perfect then when they are even older than this one ?
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:36 AM   #36
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If you spent $13K USD and found an issue in that product, would you not go back to your salesperson and show its a flawed product? Do you need to ask a 'new' online forum before you do that?

Just go back to your AD and tell your concerns and it'll be taken care of.
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:37 AM   #37
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The marks you see on the hands are marks on the glass I washed it with soap before taking the picture to have its crystal clear
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:37 AM   #38
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Pictures are not good: I had to crop them since they were too heavy to be downloaded, I have no loupe, they are taken with an iphone. I am waiting for my messages to be accepted by the moderator, I came here to have opinions, and now I am uploading pictures to show the authenticity of a watch I bought in november and of which I am the first owner.. waouh!
Take a screwdriver and a hammer, and open the case back lid..Use some brakepad cleaner and then some WD40, and the overhaul will be completed...It will run perfectly then...Dont know what else solution are you expecting with a 3 months old Rolex with a warranty outside the Rsc ?
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:39 AM   #39
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There are black seconds markers which are black printed. The ink is missing. Also the hands have marks.

If the watch is genuine and have all of those issues, then I am seeing it for the first time... Why other members Daytonas are perfect then when they are even older than this one ?
Not to belabor this but where you see missing ink and it looks like a lot of it, is "probably" the highlights from the flash blowing out the glossy ink. Just like the big white blob is a highlight from the flash on the crystal. Anything glossy is going to reflect back. And the ink is raised and glossy.

You may be right that it's not authentic but the so called missing ink IS from the flash.

If we had clear non flash pictures we could see a lot better.
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:40 AM   #40
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:43 AM   #41
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Did I say it was fake?
No I didn't. I was simply asking where he bought it.

Like if he bought a Daytona from Horology House. I heard they have great deals.
Ah, I thought you were making reference to Horology House in the sense that they sold a fake Daytona ... I think you can see how I'd think that.

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Apparently he's blocked from sending more pictures. He PM me.
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:46 AM   #43
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Welp. Crazy how these threads evolve
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:47 AM   #44
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Ah, I thought you were making reference to Horology House in the sense that they sold a fake Daytona ... I think you can see how I'd think that.

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Yes, I was being sarcastic. I should hold off until there is a consensus.

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Apparently he's blocked from sending more pictures. He PM me.
Interesting. I wish we could see more.
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:47 AM   #45
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:49 AM   #46
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Thanks for your help Blansky. Again, I bought it at an AD and I wouldn’t sell it even above market.
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:49 AM   #47
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A couple more...


Still on camera flash and not sharp enough to see much.
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:50 AM   #48
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OP, you have owned the watch for 4 months now and are just noticing these flaws? As other members have asked, why have you not returned it to the AD purchased at for some sort of examination and resolution? The skeptical meter is ticking off the charts here.
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:53 AM   #49
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If you spent $13K USD and found an issue in that product, would you not go back to your salesperson and show its a flawed product? Do you need to ask a 'new' online forum before you do that?

Just go back to your AD and tell your concerns and it'll be taken care of.
I am with u

What’s the point of even asking whether u need to take it back to fix it ?? Just do it.
Thought u had a family friend that helped u get the Daytona immediately ..
why didn’t u ask him? that’s the first person I would have gotten in touch with rather than starting a thread by creating a new forum account.

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Lol he was.
He is just trying to pretend he wasn’t now.

I thought it was sorta funny and actually expected more allusion to horology house on this thread. Lol
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:53 AM   #50
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Maybe because I noticed these marks today? How do you feel about that?

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Old 28 February 2020, 04:56 AM   #51
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A couple more...


Still on camera flash and not sharp enough to see much.
Couple more c?

R O L E X doesnt even match I I I I I .......
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Old 28 February 2020, 04:57 AM   #52
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Another one but still not sharp enough to see the dial printing very clearly.


As suggested, take it to the AD.
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Old 28 February 2020, 05:00 AM   #53
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Thanks for your help Blansky. Again, I bought it at an AD and I wouldn’t sell it even above market.
Don t worry nobody will pay your not working watch with a mark on dial above market price, even after you will have the service history even if it was a genuine piece..Good luck.
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Old 28 February 2020, 05:06 AM   #54
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Don t worry nobody will pay your not working watch with a mark on dial above market price, even after you will have the service history even if it is a genuine piece..Good luck.
Wow. You seem pretty emotional about this.
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Old 28 February 2020, 05:06 AM   #55
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Is it the watch you are dreaming of, but your AD keeps telling you come back next year? I see some bitter in your messages man.

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Old 28 February 2020, 05:08 AM   #56
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Don t worry nobody will pay your not working watch with a mark on dial above market price, even after you will have the service history even if it was a genuine piece..Good luck.
if purchased from an AD it has a warranty and can easily be sent into rolex for a dial swap. So really it's a non issue
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Old 28 February 2020, 05:09 AM   #57
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Yeah my question at first was, is it worth doing so or I should not bother. Then it turned into something weird talking about authenticity etc.
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Old 28 February 2020, 05:12 AM   #58
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Couple more c?

R O L E X doesnt even match I I I I I .......
Not sure what you are trying to refer to here but if you are curious to know the ROLEX font is thicker than the minute track.

OP, just needs to call up his acquaintance at the AD and have them help sort it out. Regardless of when the defect was noticed or when the mechanical issue occurred, it should be under warranty and can be fixed via the AD sending it to the RSC or sending it to the RSC directly.

And as a lot of members have experienced, it isn't always the easiest dealing with the AD as half the time they are clueless themselves or even defensive and would defer to the RSC. I trust his friend at the AD can bridge a better gap if he can leverage that relationship.

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Don t worry nobody will pay your not working watch with a mark on dial above market price, even after you will have the service history even if it was a genuine piece..Good luck.
This was not necessary.
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Old 28 February 2020, 05:13 AM   #59
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Old 28 February 2020, 05:16 AM   #60
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Yeah my question at first was, is it worth doing so or I should not bother. Then it turned into something weird talking about authenticity etc.
What other solution do you want? Whatever.
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