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Old 2 March 2021, 07:41 AM   #1
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Omega GMT potential?

I have been interested in watches since around 2010, and for as long as I can remember Omega has not had a good GMT option. Is it just me or do they have huge potential here due to the demand for Rolex GMTs (and the ridiculous waitlists)?

I imagine something something like a Seamaster case/bezel (but 24h ofc), maybe a bracelet similar to the one on the new Speedmaster (but slightly more tapered) and in 40mm. And not directly derived from a diver, which would also mean no helium escape valve

What am I missing here? Does anyone know why Omega is not having a decent option here and never did?
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Old 2 March 2021, 08:35 AM   #2
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Slightly more tapered than the already aggressive taper of the new Speedmaster bracelet?? Are you sure?

I agree, while there are GMT options, it seems like an after thought with Omega (A Planet Ocean GMT??). Should be ripe for opportunity to make a proper GMT watch.
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Old 2 March 2021, 09:00 AM   #3
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Rolex sacrificed WR rating to get the GMT function to fit inside the Sub case. Omega didn't sacrifice WR rating so they made the cases thicker to compensate for the GMT function. We ended up with a really fat PO GMT now and a somewhat wearable Diver 300M GMT that was discontinued like 7 years ago.
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Old 2 March 2021, 10:08 AM   #4
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The Planet Ocean has a very robust GMT version, like all PO's it's on the tall side but it is one heck timepiece.

Also there is the Aqua Terra, the dial is a bit busy but the who AT line is great, versatile and eye catching. Don't know if the GMT comes in both 37mm and 41mm, but it's worth a look.

Does the 300M still come in a GMT? Not sure; someone will comment, but the first two are good options.
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Old 2 March 2021, 02:33 PM   #5
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Does the 300M still come in a GMT? Not sure; someone will comment, but the first two are good options.
No, it was discontinued when the 300M moved to a ceramic bezel.
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Old 2 March 2021, 02:50 PM   #6
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I have been holding out on getting a Planet Ocean GMT. I want the newer Master Chronometer 8906 movement but they don't offer it in a color that I like. I am hoping they release an black bezel or blue with the new movement and they update the bracelet to the adjustable soon.
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Old 2 March 2021, 05:09 PM   #7
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They do have the Planet Ocean but it is not very well executed in my humble opinion
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Old 2 March 2021, 05:11 PM   #8
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Slightly more tapered than the already aggressive taper of the new Speedmaster bracelet?? Are you sure?

I agree, while there are GMT options, it seems like an after thought with Omega (A Planet Ocean GMT??). Should be ripe for opportunity to make a proper GMT watch.
No I am not sure about the taper actually
Just meant something that is in good proportion to the case and with some taper (unlike the otherwise very nice new Seamaster)
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Old 2 March 2021, 07:26 PM   #9
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I have a PO GMT. A lovely movement and probably the easiest watch to read in my collection.

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Old 2 March 2021, 07:43 PM   #10
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Rolex sacrificed WR rating to get the GMT function to fit inside the Sub case. Omega didn't sacrifice WR rating so they made the cases thicker to compensate for the GMT function. We ended up with a really fat PO GMT now and a somewhat wearable Diver 300M GMT that was discontinued like 7 years ago.
Sacrificed WR to make the movement fit? I would say there was no WR sacrificed? The modern GMT has a WR of 100m, which is more than enough for 99% of people who dive (let alone desk divers) and actually matches the original WR of the first Submariners. While I have watches with deeper WR, such as the SD43 that can go over 1,000m, I’ve never had any problem with WR with my GMT.

Even the Daytona Black can go down the same 100m, which means taking it for Scuba. Just wouldn’t use the chrono down there.

....and Hodinkee had a very well written article about Dr. Sylvia Earle, who makes professional dives wearing her gold Datejust with a 50m WR.

Basically, for solid watchmakers like Rolex and Omega and Blancpain, when they give a certain WR one can stand behind it. And in the case of Dr. Earle, even 50m is good enough for scuba dives.

At 100m a GMT is definitely not sacrificing anything, and definitely not to fit a movement. It’s just that the Sub evolved to get a higher WR, in the same way the SD evolved to get 4x the WR of the Sub, and then the DSSD came along to just put everyone to shame.
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Old 2 March 2021, 08:11 PM   #11
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Old 2 March 2021, 10:33 PM   #12
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I like the Aqua Terra GMTs quite a bit, and as mentioned the PO has a great looking more traditional GMT. Since the Seamaster SMP is a dive watch I guess Omega didn't want to put a GMT function on that particular watch.

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Old 2 March 2021, 10:43 PM   #13
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They do have the Planet Ocean but it is not very well executed in my humble opinion
I agree. A dive watch without a diving bezel. What?! Oh hey, let's slap a GMT bezel on there.
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Old 3 March 2021, 02:20 AM   #14
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Sacrificed WR to make the movement fit? I would say there was no WR sacrificed? The modern GMT has a WR of 100m, which is more than enough for 99% of people who dive (let alone desk divers) and actually matches the original WR of the first Submariners. While I have watches with deeper WR, such as the SD43 that can go over 1,000m, I’ve never had any problem with WR with my GMT.

Even the Daytona Black can go down the same 100m, which means taking it for Scuba. Just wouldn’t use the chrono down there.

....and Hodinkee had a very well written article about Dr. Sylvia Earle, who makes professional dives wearing her gold Datejust with a 50m WR.

Basically, for solid watchmakers like Rolex and Omega and Blancpain, when they give a certain WR one can stand behind it. And in the case of Dr. Earle, even 50m is good enough for scuba dives.

At 100m a GMT is definitely not sacrificing anything, and definitely not to fit a movement. It’s just that the Sub evolved to get a higher WR, in the same way the SD evolved to get 4x the WR of the Sub, and then the DSSD came along to just put everyone to shame.
When I say sacrifice I'm saying the Sub is 300m while the GMT is 100m. Rolex didn't try to make the GMT 300m WR and increase the thickness to match the Sub even though the case sizes are identical. Of course 100m WR is more than enough for just about any activity so the GMT WR is adequate for 99.9999% of the population.
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Old 3 March 2021, 03:15 AM   #15
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I love GS and also the overall design on this, but the date window at 4:00 is just a crime (on any watch)

Its also too big and bulky for my taste (and small wrists), so I am awaiting a more "elegant" take on this watch
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I love GS and also the overall design on this, but the date window at 4:00 is just a crime (on any watch)

Its also too big and bulky for my taste (and small wrists), so I am awaiting a more "elegant" take on this watch
Meet it's kinder, gentler and more elegant cousin. Still has the 4:00 date (sorry)

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Old 3 March 2021, 04:00 AM   #17
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I have a PO GMT. A lovely movement and probably the easiest watch to read in my collection.
I love the POs. Yes, a bit head heavy, but really well made in my experience. The quality of the new movements is also "superlative" (borrowing a term from a competitor). Not sure anything else compares regarding their resistance to magnetism either.
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Old 3 March 2021, 04:03 AM   #18
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Meet it's kinder, gentler and more elegant cousin. Still has the 4:00 date (sorry)

That is a handsome watch. Have no personal experience with a crown at 4. Perhaps it helps avoid the "tattoo" on the back of the hand some big sport watches can cause?

In love with my PO, although I wear it less and less for this reason. Panerai's crown guard solved the problem for me.
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I love GS and also the overall design on this, but the date window at 4:00 is just a crime (on any watch)

Its also too big and bulky for my taste (and small wrists), so I am awaiting a more "elegant" take on this watch
Yes, I agree.
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Old 6 March 2021, 02:38 PM   #20
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Yes, I agree.

That SBGE255 and the green SBGE257 are absolute stunners (at least based on pics). Hope to see either or both in the flesh soon. I have a PO2500 and a Speedy Date in my collection, so I’m used to the 14mm+ thickness.
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Old 8 March 2021, 07:16 PM   #21
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It was impossible to get a GMT-Master II here in Asia, and I don’t want to pay for premium on the grey market nor bundle other watches that I don’t want.......so I looked at other brands: Omega and Panerai in particular.

Didn’t like PO GMT cause it’s thick like loaf of bread and AQ GMT’s dial is too messy so I ended up getting the Panerai PAM533 this year in January:




Current collection: Rolex Submariner 116610LV, Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional, Panerai Luminor GMT 10-days PAM533
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Old 11 March 2021, 02:56 AM   #22
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I've been exceptionally with this one. Purchased in 2007.
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Old 18 March 2021, 08:20 AM   #23
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They do have the Planet Ocean but it is not very well executed in my humble opinion


Yes I agree.
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Get a rolex gmt pepsi 16750. They are going for $12k. They were produced from 1995 to 2005
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