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Old 10 July 2018, 08:58 AM   #1
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GMT Insert Bleached? Hooked 2s

This one looks very sketchy to me:
Hooked 2s bleached?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-gmt-1...EAAOSwaYVbPb2H
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Old 10 July 2018, 10:19 AM   #2
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Those Are Not Hooked 2's. The "Hooked Two" will have the upper loop end extending to the left beyond the width the base of the two.
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Old 10 July 2018, 10:36 AM   #3
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Great Example,

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Old 10 July 2018, 10:49 AM   #4
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This one looks very sketchy to me:
Hooked 2s bleached?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-gmt-1...EAAOSwaYVbPb2H
In fact, you took part in the above thread back in March.
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Old 10 July 2018, 01:04 PM   #5
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This one looks very sketchy to me:
Hooked 2s bleached?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-gmt-1...EAAOSwaYVbPb2H
It is definitely bleached and a ratty fake insert - but not a "hooked 2" to fake insert.
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Old 10 July 2018, 01:25 PM   #6
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It is definitely bleached and a ratty fake insert - but not a "hooked 2" to fake insert.
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Note the poor centering of the numbers. Some riding Out towards the outer edge, then on the opposing side they are riding IN towards the center.
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Old 10 July 2018, 03:02 PM   #7
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It is definitely bleached and a ratty fake insert - but not a "hooked 2" to fake insert.
Thank you. Scary thing someone is bidding $750.
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In fact, you took part in the above thread back in March.
And?
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Old 10 July 2018, 04:22 PM   #9
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GMT Insert Bleached? Hooked 2s

Well that same seller has another one done up in a different manner, too - quoting $600.

But what’s the distinction here? Seller disclosed “faded to a turquoise and light cherry red.” Are we now going to argue its definition?

How the fading was achieved is not defined - we don’t have a standard for “natural” fading - it’s like saying some foodstuff is “natural” and the FDA still doesn’t have a definition for natural.

Just my 2¢ - if the insert is authentic then it’s not fake.


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Old 11 July 2018, 12:47 AM   #10
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Well that same seller has another one done up in a different manner, too - quoting $600.

But what’s the distinction here? Seller disclosed “faded to a turquoise and light cherry red.” Are we now going to argue its definition?

How the fading was achieved is not defined - we don’t have a standard for “natural” fading - it’s like saying some foodstuff is “natural” and the FDA still doesn’t have a definition for natural.

Just my 2¢ - if the insert is authentic then it’s not fake.


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I think the distinction is that the insert is not authentic, bleached or not.
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Old 11 July 2018, 01:19 AM   #11
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GMT Insert Bleached? Hooked 2s

It’s bleach
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Old 11 July 2018, 12:57 PM   #12
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And?
Just thought you would remember what Hooked 2s look like.
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Old 11 July 2018, 04:15 PM   #13
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Just thought you would remember what Hooked 2s look like.
Well shucks, thanks for reminding me about what I forgot and should have remembered .
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Old 12 July 2018, 01:30 AM   #14
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Well shucks, thanks for reminding me about what I forgot and should have remembered .
I Really didn't mean to bust your chops... I just googled "Hooked 2s" and there was that thread from March. That's all.
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I Really didn't mean to bust your chops... I just googled "Hooked 2s" and there was that thread from March. That's all.
Don’t sweat it I was born Jersey and sarcasm is a second language :)
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Don’t sweat it I was born Jersey and sarcasm is a second language :)
Cool, spent twelve years at the shore near Toms River. I was there a week ago for a memorial service in Forked River.

Sarcasm doesn't translate well in print..... ;)
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