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Watch enthusiast447 · 2 August 2020, 12:08 PM

Hello,
I was wondering whether anybody had some tips on how to score those hard-to- get Patek models (5711) without buying up half of the store on the first visit and then spending 100k a year on less desirable watches and jewelry?

jlovda · 2 August 2020, 12:16 PM

I can't afford one but from what I've read on this forum I'll take a guess and say there is no other way.

Sg6067 · 2 August 2020, 12:16 PM

This should be in the Patek sub-forum. But the obvious answer is to buy from a trusted grey market reseller if that’s the only watch you want. Although incidentally you’ve chosen one of the watches with the worst (highest) market premium. Still in the end the premium you pay will cost you less in the long run than buying watches and other jewelry you don’t want in order to get an allocation.

Chewbacca · 2 August 2020, 12:21 PM

Make more money.

Watch enthusiast447 · 2 August 2020, 12:21 PM

Thanks!

Rockland · 2 August 2020, 12:25 PM

Breaking and entering.

Seddyspaghetti · 2 August 2020, 12:34 PM

I’d like to know too ��

Nikrnic · 2 August 2020, 12:35 PM

Go grey. You can have it now, it will cost you but being what the market is you shouldn't get hurt much if you buy and sell right if you have too. You have to pay to play. It beats playing the AD game where you will constantly be snookered.

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Rado63 · 2 August 2020, 12:35 PM

You want a Patek 5711? You would like to know how to get one without spending large amounts at the AD? There is no Patek AD that will sell you one without extensive purchase history., 100K per year is probably not enough. If you find a way around that, congratulations!

shinshin · 2 August 2020, 12:44 PM

Buy 2 grand complication model and wait

Pongster · 2 August 2020, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch enthusiast447

Hello,
I was wondering whether anybody had some tips on how to score those hard-to- get Patek models (5711) without buying up half of the store on the first visit and then spending 100k a year on less desirable watches and jewelry?

Back in 2017, i just visited the AD three times a week. Asking for a blue 5711. In about a year, i got offered a white one. Grabbed it.

JSCP · 2 August 2020, 01:11 PM

Good luck or buy grey.
I got my Aquanaut in 7 months 2 years ago. Ask for a 5711. I think will get like 3 years or never lol. But so far I got the 5167, a Pepsi, a Daytona SS white, a DJ41 Blue sticks/fluted and just ordered a DD40 YG so hope that helps. They been good to me.

So it’s luck and bring liked and spending...

sgwatchguy · 2 August 2020, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Make more money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockland

Breaking and entering.

ROLEXster · 2 August 2020, 01:46 PM

Mr. Wonderful waited more than a decade to get his hands on the 5711.
.
.

Ichiran · 2 August 2020, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Make more money.

I'm with Chewie on this.

Pateks · 2 August 2020, 02:16 PM

There is no shortcut other than going gray if that’s the only watch you want. And you probably want it cause it’s the most poplular. All the cool kids have one. To me, it’s bland and boring and I have no interest in it. So many other great pieces by Patek.

If your goal is to start collecting Pateks, you will eventually end up with one along with a whole host of other great watches. If you only want a 5711, buy gray.

moneymike83 · 2 August 2020, 02:53 PM

My ad told me to buy a Travel time and I will get one. I might pull the trigger soon.

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enjoythemusic · 2 August 2020, 10:33 PM

Find out what the PP store owners loves. Maybe a nice vintage Rothschild, or a buying them a Ferrari, will help.

Nav01L · 2 August 2020, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLEXster

Mr. Wonderful waited more than a decade to get his hands on the 5711.
.
.

Considering how easy it was to get 10 years ago, I call BS on that story though...

As for the OP, try marrying the AD‘s daughter...

ap1 · 2 August 2020, 11:32 PM

Buy a few leather strapped watches first

Pim · 2 August 2020, 11:36 PM

Maybe if you sell your soul and your first born to the devil and your organs to some shady dealer in the backstreets of Shanghai you'll have enough.

Pw92676 · 2 August 2020, 11:58 PM

Very easy. Go grey.

IMO the 5711 was and is not intended for newcomers to the brand, it is the brands offering to its loyal clients. No doubt it has a beautiful simplicity and construction, but its appeal is also fueled by the overall sports watch craze, the (relatively) low price compared to others in the PP catalogue, and of course the lack of immediate availability.

Try one on at a grey dealer and you will likely be able to decide on the spot if you want it at 30,60,90,120K or whatever it is tagged at. That’s the easiest and cheapest way to make this your one and only Patek.

brandrea · 3 August 2020, 12:00 AM

It like the most popular cheerleader in high school ... unless you’re the class jock you may have to set your sights lower

DoctorA · 3 August 2020, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandrea

It like the most popular cheerleader in high school ... unless you’re the class jock you may have to set your sights lower

Spot on! It only in the fact that 10-15 years down the road, those cheerleaders mostly become unpopular and picking right in the first place ensures long term value and dependability

brandrea · 3 August 2020, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorA

Spot on! It only in the fact that 10-15 years down the road, those cheerleaders mostly become unpopular and picking right in the first place ensures long term value and dependability

Ah, well played and so true brother

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yoast · 3 August 2020, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nav01L

Considering how easy it was to get 10 years ago, I call BS on that story though...

As for the OP, try marrying the AD‘s daughter...

Or kidnap her and ask for a 5711 as ransom

SL BRABUS · 3 August 2020, 02:59 AM

A lot of new members been asking this question lately....

It has been discuss many many many times.... Like a broken record.....

Hoping new members will start using "Search this Forum" before asking this kind of question....^^^....

Watch enthusiast447 · 3 August 2020, 12:19 PM

thanks for the info!
Also, if the AD said that they've put you on the "wishlist," do you stand a chance of getting this watch?

snarkq · 3 August 2020, 12:22 PM

I asked local patek AD if i could get 5212 the day after it was announced... they said they would put me on a list.. i checked in 14 months later and they said the list had not moved. No ETA. Prob just going to go grey market. Not much more you can do.

yoast · 3 August 2020, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch enthusiast447

thanks for the info!
Also, if the AD said that they've put you on the "wishlist," do you stand a chance of getting this watch?

Nope

2 August 2020, 12:08 PM	#1
Watch enthusiast447 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: San Francisco Posts: 39	Tips for getting hard to get models Hello, I was wondering whether anybody had some tips on how to score those hard-to- get Patek models (5711) without buying up half of the store on the first visit and then spending 100k a year on less desirable watches and jewelry?

2 August 2020, 12:35 PM	#9
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	You want a Patek 5711? You would like to know how to get one without spending large amounts at the AD? There is no Patek AD that will sell you one without extensive purchase history., 100K per year is probably not enough. If you find a way around that, congratulations! __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

2 August 2020, 01:11 PM	#12
JSCP "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Watch: Rolex PM’s/Patek Posts: 2,232	Good luck or buy grey. I got my Aquanaut in 7 months 2 years ago. Ask for a 5711. I think will get like 3 years or never lol. But so far I got the 5167, a Pepsi, a Daytona SS white, a DJ41 Blue sticks/fluted and just ordered a DD40 YG so hope that helps. They been good to me. So it’s luck and bring liked and spending... __________________ PP5167a; PP l5153r; PPNautilus 7118r; PP3733-YG; DD40 RG/Sundust-Roman;DD40YG/White/Roman;DD40 WG/Olive;Daytona RG;Sub Black YG; Daytona Panda; Celebration 41; GMT-II’s: Left VTNR; GRNR; Batman; SkyDweller SSJubilee/Black; SUB no-date; Oysterquartz SS; DJ SS 36mm’87; Cartier: Roadster YG;Santos YG; Panther YG; Panther SS; Tank’73 YG, Tank must 2023 ;Tank Americaine YG;BulgariBB38mm/YG

2 August 2020, 10:33 PM	#18
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,405	Find out what the PP store owners loves. Maybe a nice vintage Rothschild, or a buying them a Ferrari, will help. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

3 August 2020, 02:59 AM	#27
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,340	A lot of new members been asking this question lately.... It has been discuss many many many times.... Like a broken record..... Hoping new members will start using "Search this Forum" before asking this kind of question....^^^.... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

2 August 2020, 12:16 PM	#2
jlovda "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: John Location: Midwest Watch: 5513,1675,216570 Posts: 1,465	I can't afford one but from what I've read on this forum I'll take a guess and say there is no other way.

2 August 2020, 12:16 PM	#3
Sg6067 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Sean Location: US Watch: AP 15450ST Blue Posts: 249	This should be in the Patek sub-forum. But the obvious answer is to buy from a trusted grey market reseller if that’s the only watch you want. Although incidentally you’ve chosen one of the watches with the worst (highest) market premium. Still in the end the premium you pay will cost you less in the long run than buying watches and other jewelry you don’t want in order to get an allocation.

2 August 2020, 12:21 PM	#4
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	Make more money.

2 August 2020, 12:25 PM	#6
Rockland "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: United States Posts: 187	Breaking and entering.

2 August 2020, 12:34 PM	#7
Seddyspaghetti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Uranus Watch: 116500LN Posts: 4,622	I’d like to know too ��

2 August 2020, 12:35 PM	#8
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,158	Go grey. You can have it now, it will cost you but being what the market is you shouldn't get hurt much if you buy and sell right if you have too. You have to pay to play. It beats playing the AD game where you will constantly be snookered. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

2 August 2020, 12:44 PM	#10
shinshin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: USA Watch: Apple watch Posts: 65	Buy 2 grand complication model and wait

2 August 2020, 02:16 PM	#16
Pateks Banned Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: USA Posts: 327	There is no shortcut other than going gray if that’s the only watch you want. And you probably want it cause it’s the most poplular. All the cool kids have one. To me, it’s bland and boring and I have no interest in it. So many other great pieces by Patek. If your goal is to start collecting Pateks, you will eventually end up with one along with a whole host of other great watches. If you only want a 5711, buy gray.

2 August 2020, 02:53 PM	#17
moneymike83 Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Brooklyn Watch: Sd43 Posts: 684	My ad told me to buy a Travel time and I will get one. I might pull the trigger soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 August 2020, 11:32 PM	#20
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,033	Buy a few leather strapped watches first

2 August 2020, 11:36 PM	#21
Pim Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Netherlands Posts: 515	Maybe if you sell your soul and your first born to the devil and your organs to some shady dealer in the backstreets of Shanghai you'll have enough.

2 August 2020, 11:58 PM	#22
Pw92676 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 6,123	Very easy. Go grey. IMO the 5711 was and is not intended for newcomers to the brand, it is the brands offering to its loyal clients. No doubt it has a beautiful simplicity and construction, but its appeal is also fueled by the overall sports watch craze, the (relatively) low price compared to others in the PP catalogue, and of course the lack of immediate availability. Try one on at a grey dealer and you will likely be able to decide on the spot if you want it at 30,60,90,120K or whatever it is tagged at. That’s the easiest and cheapest way to make this your one and only Patek.

3 August 2020, 12:00 AM	#23
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,576	It like the most popular cheerleader in high school ... unless you’re the class jock you may have to set your sights lower

3 August 2020, 12:19 PM	#28
Watch enthusiast447 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: San Francisco Posts: 39	thanks for the info! Also, if the AD said that they've put you on the "wishlist," do you stand a chance of getting this watch?

3 August 2020, 12:22 PM	#29
snarkq "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: USA Posts: 125	I asked local patek AD if i could get 5212 the day after it was announced... they said they would put me on a list.. i checked in 14 months later and they said the list had not moved. No ETA. Prob just going to go grey market. Not much more you can do.

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