The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Other (non-Rolex) Watch Topics > Audemars Piguet Discussion Forum

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 20 March 2019, 07:58 AM   #1
mspeed76
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: United States
Watch: AP, RM
Posts: 605
*STOLEN* AP Barrichello 2 titanium #942

so the thief contacted me from chrono24, he was local in Los Angeles and wanted to meet at a jewelry store in Manhattan Beach to verify the authenticity and then pay me at a bank on the same block.

After I met him at the jewelry store, we walked inside and I opened the box to show him and the jewelry store employee. The employee looked at watch briefly to inspect it, and the thief said "Let me take a look" He handed it to him and the thief turned around and bolted out through the open door like Usain Bolt, down a small street to a running car ( a black camaro ) that was waiting for him a few blocks away and they sped off. I tried to run after him but he was probably twice as fast as I was.

The police came really quickly and took fingerprints as he touched the glass display case and the papers, and he was recorded on surveillance video. They searched for the car for awhile to no avail.

Most likely the watch has already been sold to a pawn shop, and I reported the theft to AP.

In retrospect, I had my doubts about the guy while talking to him on the phone. But I figured since he wanted to meet a place with cameras, it was legit. On the way there, I passed by a police car that was parked a block away from the store and my mind just wasn't in the right place. I thought if he was going to try anything, it would be when we were outside the store and walking to the bank. It was during broad daylight and many witnesses. It happened so quickly.

I hope this story will prevent something like this from this happening to them. I feel pretty foolish for not being more careful.
mspeed76 is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 08:30 AM   #2
Vaxe
"TRF" Member
 
Vaxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 2,122
Thanks for sharing, hope it’s recovered
Vaxe is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 08:32 AM   #3
edo
"TRF" Member
 
edo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sarajevo
Posts: 1,801
Don't blame yourself, you did not meet him under the bridge in the middle of the night... phone number, fingerprints + caught unmasked on camera sounds like an easy job for a police... hope you will get your watch back soon...
edo is online now  
Old 20 March 2019, 09:17 AM   #4
r8t3d_M
"TRF" Member
 
r8t3d_M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Real Name: Felipe
Location: NYC
Watch: Me ;)
Posts: 2,894
I’m very sorry to hear this. I don’t think you did anything wrong, you met the guy at a jewelry store and planned on making the exchange at a bank. If anyone’s the fool it’s the theif. You have to have a few screws loose to do this while being recorded on cameras. I hope the police are able to recover your watch.
__________________
IG: R8t3d_M
r8t3d_M is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 09:24 AM   #5
singe89
"TRF" Member
 
singe89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Real Name: Jim
Location: Orange County, CA
Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek
Posts: 3,721
wow...you did everything right so I wouldn't be second guessing myself. Hope the watch is recovered quickly and the thief pays for his actions.
singe89 is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 09:28 AM   #6
Fredcohiba
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Real Name: Fred
Location: SE Wisconsin
Watch: DJ 126334
Posts: 408
That just stinks. I’m sorry you had to endure that. I hope he gets his payback x10.
Fredcohiba is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 09:30 AM   #7
Jojoshop
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Real Name: Jim
Location: LA
Watch: BLNR
Posts: 492
Sorry for your loss.
Jojoshop is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 09:42 AM   #8
Daryl
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
Daryl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 3,321
Hope you will recover your watch


Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
__________________
2FA-Enabled


Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas International GTG 2016
Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017
Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019
Daryl is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 10:26 AM   #9
AK797
2024 Pledge Member
 
AK797's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Real Name: Neil
Location: UK
Watch: ing ships roll in
Posts: 59,209
Sorry to hear this, I always suggest meeting at your bank, esp one that has two sets of security doors so no one can run out. Many ADs in malls over here have no doors at all and no security, I'm surprised people don't run out with them on a weekly basis.
AK797 is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 11:33 AM   #10
s14roller
"TRF" Member
 
s14roller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: US
Posts: 3,244
Sounds like a decent chance he'll get caught.
s14roller is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 12:39 PM   #11
shaunylw
"TRF" Member
 
shaunylw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Here
Posts: 4,504
That’s terrible. Sounds like you had all of the bases covered, could have happened to anyone.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
shaunylw is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 02:39 PM   #12
jumpmandk
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: 1
Posts: 244
This sucks. Did everything you could to stay visible and crooks still have the nerve.. Sorry for your loss
jumpmandk is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 03:17 PM   #13
WWC
"TRF" Member
 
WWC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Home
Posts: 1,434
I’m sorry to hear this! It’s an easy catch based on your description. Hope you recover it and thanks for sharing the story with us.

He’ll get his well deserved punishment. Stay positive there!
__________________
Royal Oak 15500ST
Master Calendar METEORITE Q1552540 | Luminor GMT PAM 00335
Aquanaut 5167A-001 | Nautilus 5712/1A-001
Cosmograph DAYTONA 116520 | DEEPSEA 126660 | Explorer 214270 | GMT Master II BLRO 16710 | GMT Master II VTNR 126720 | Submariner LV 16610 | Sky-Dweller 326139 | Prince Oysterdate 90630
WWC is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 03:23 PM   #14
HK Islandboy
"TRF" Member
 
HK Islandboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: AP
Posts: 3,825
That is dreadful.

The sad thing is that someone will help to fuel this kind of theft by being willing to overlook lack of box and papers and provenance just to save a couple of bucks.
HK Islandboy is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 05:10 PM   #15
YoungMoneyAssassin
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 145
Doesn’t sound like he’ll be getting too far before getting caught.

Any chance you had insurance?
YoungMoneyAssassin is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 06:20 PM   #16
Uros
"TRF" Member
 
Uros's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Europe
Posts: 391
Dont blame yourself, idiotic story but you are unharmed and thats most important...
Uros is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 07:29 PM   #17
tyler1980
"TRF" Member
 
tyler1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 17,622
im being serious... i would hire an off duty cop to accompany me. They work doors at clubs, run security on the side all the time


No the worst idea ever
__________________
Instagram: tyler.watches
current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)
tyler1980 is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 08:14 PM   #18
Flying Doctor
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: London
Posts: 77
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyler1980 View Post
im being serious... i would hire an off duty cop to accompany me. They work doors at clubs, run security on the side all the time


No the worst idea ever
That or use somewhere like others have suggested where in effect you are locked in.......

However, this chap has fingerprints, camera etc etc. That should mean they can find him.....

FD.
Flying Doctor is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 09:22 PM   #19
Razorsedge1
"TRF" Member
 
Razorsedge1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Miami Beach
Posts: 438
Good grief. That is terrible. Unlike many that get ripped off you took reasonable precautions. Maybe it will turn up.
Razorsedge1 is offline  
Old 20 March 2019, 10:55 PM   #20
aa909
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 530
So sorry to hear this, but you did everything right. Meeting in a jewelry store with cameras during the day. sounds like he chose the meeting location, wonder if he was working with the employee at the jewelry store to make sure the doors were open and he could easily run out. I hope the cops actually follow up on this, especially since they have his fingerprints!
aa909 is offline  
Old 21 March 2019, 02:00 AM   #21
FrontHeadlock
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 377
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyler1980 View Post
im being serious... i would hire an off duty cop to accompany me. They work doors at clubs, run security on the side all the time


No the worst idea ever
That's actually a great idea. What would that cost for an hour, $150? Well worth it if the price of the watch is high enough.

Reminds me of that scene in Better Caul Saul when that nerdy guy selling pills decided not to take Ehrmentraut to the handoff that one time and then got screwed.
FrontHeadlock is offline  
Old 21 March 2019, 02:39 AM   #22
srvrf
2024 Pledge Member
 
srvrf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Real Name: Steve
Location: Indiana
Watch: PP/AP
Posts: 2,075
Crazy that in the era of smash and grab thieves are becoming more bold knowing that there are cameras everywhere. Every AD/boutique I've been to lately has locked double doors and at least one security guard present. But I could see the problem of not knowing if the thief was armed and if locking him in would cause more trouble. I guess the moral of the story is above a certain value, maybe insist on a place with known security and double doors, or the rent-a-cop is also a great suggestion.
srvrf is offline  
Old 21 March 2019, 02:40 AM   #23
Superburrito
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: California
Watch: 26420RO
Posts: 448
That sucks. But thanks for sharing the story so we can hopefully avoid the situation.
__________________
Current collection: AP 26420RO.OO.A002CA.01, PP 5164A, AP 15202BA, Omega 310.32.42.50.01.002, Tudor m79030b-0003, Garmin Epix Gen 2
Waiting for: AP 126715ST.OO.1356ST.01
Superburrito is offline  
Old 21 March 2019, 02:45 AM   #24
jameson
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 88
It’s LAPD, they likely won’t do sh*t (for a lot of long and complicated reasons not worth digressing into). Sorry about your watch. You did nothing wrong in how you handled, sometimes life just happens like that.
jameson is offline  
Old 21 March 2019, 04:48 AM   #25
Burlington
"TRF" Member
 
Burlington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Europe
Posts: 5,634
That’s a terrible turn of luck. So brazen too. Hoping you can get reunited with it.
__________________
“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.”

― Winston S. Churchill
Burlington is offline  
Old 22 March 2019, 03:38 AM   #26
zly512
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: London
Posts: 77
I am so sorry to hear that. Gosh I hope the police find it back asap!!

My best friend's brother just got robbed yesterday in front of a restaurant next to Harrods by three 'middleeast looking' guys. His watch, a Hublot Spirit of Big Bang, was ripped off by one guy from his wrist while he was being held by another guy! Trying to catch but he saw a knife....

God this is awful.
zly512 is offline  
Old 22 March 2019, 06:15 AM   #27
stockae92
"TRF" Member
 
stockae92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Socal
Posts: 4,878
I am sorry for your loss.

I am surprised that there was no security guard nor double door for the jewellery store location.

I hope that low life got caught and punished to the full extend of the law.
__________________
135
├┼┼╕
246 R
stockae92 is offline  
Old 22 March 2019, 10:41 AM   #28
Chary
2024 Pledge Member
 
Chary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Real Name: Adrian
Location: USA
Watch: 15407ST
Posts: 954
That sucks Ted, I hope that (*&## gets caught!! that watch was super clean!!!
__________________
AP 26238 RG BRICK, AP 26420 TAUPE
AP 15407ST SKELLY, AP 26470ST BATMAN
Rolex SD43

Instagram: Chary1
Chary is offline  
Old 22 March 2019, 10:44 AM   #29
mspeed76
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: United States
Watch: AP, RM
Posts: 605
thank you everyone for their words.. I really appreciate it.

some thoughts..

1) Definitely the brazen nature of the robbery is main reason why I let my guard down. Despite all the clear evidence ( fingerprints, eyewitnesses, camera ) the thief is counting on the police not following up. They did their job and filed a report, the job is done. The best case scenario is that he gets caught in the future and they can add this robbery to the case.

2) The thief did a decent job at allaying my suspicions, i.e. trying to vet me as a seller, asking me about bill of sale, bank payment etc.. And when he showed up, he was dressed in flashy clothes and gold/diamond jewelry to play the part, albeit a bit too much. I was concerned, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt despite my gut feeling.

3) The thief must run track because I've never seen anyone run so damn fast, I felt like I was running after him in slow motion.

4) I incorrectly assumed there would be some kind of security at the jewelry store.

5) The watch was a collector/new condition safe queen, it should have gone to someone who appreciated that.

6) I am thankful no one was injured. He could have tried to take it with force/violence at any time
mspeed76 is offline  
Old 22 March 2019, 11:14 AM   #30
Lgear080
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,506
Ugh man I’m so sorry. I’ve been taking some new steps for F2F that might have helped here if you want to pm me. At this point I’d probably pass on future in person deals for awhile.
Lgear080 is offline  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Takuya Watches

Bobs Watches

Asset Appeal

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches

Coronet


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.