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16 April 2022, 01:30 PM | #1 |
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Lange - other than steel odysseus
are there any non special $100k watches that hold their value? i realize some folks dont like to talk about prices....but some folks do. I like watches for many reasons and as a collector who's taste changes i want to be able to trade without getting hurt financially.
So i want a ALS but dont want to buy a Lange 1 or saxonia annual calendar and sell/trade down the road and take a financial bath. I have bought and sold many rolexes and pateks with mixed results. Thanks in advance. |
16 April 2022, 01:34 PM | #2 |
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16 April 2022, 01:44 PM | #3 |
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All lumen shd hold their value well, but the latest ZW lumen is 145k retail.
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16 April 2022, 02:34 PM | #4 |
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buy grey market, save the depreciation. The value should hold from there.
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16 April 2022, 04:31 PM | #5 |
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Datos, 1815 chrono, and wg/black dial zw seem to holding very well.
But I’d be cautious with als if you’re very concerned about resale. Even today grey dealers offer prices that give them +20% margin due to the illiquidity of als pieces, especially at higher end price points. End of the day als is a small brand making 4-5k watches per year so price changes may be volatile as it wouldn’t take much for demand to skyrocket or plummet depending on the whims of a few hundred or a thousand collectors. |
16 April 2022, 11:17 PM | #6 |
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Do you need to buy new, from a boutique or AD? Or would you buy preowned?
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17 April 2022, 02:03 AM | #7 |
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i want to buy new - and want to spend less than 100k - i know buy what you like - but like many my tastes change and want to be able to buy from an AD now and sell later to grey at reasonable price for something else.
i really like the annual calendars but i see them and other sub $100k als watches trading low. makes me a bit weary buying new from AD. |
17 April 2022, 03:17 AM | #8 |
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Just get what you like my friend. I am not a fan of the lower end but, they look like anybody could have made them. ALS shines with complicated watches IMO. |
17 April 2022, 03:55 AM | #9 |
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that lumen is epic !
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17 April 2022, 06:59 AM | #10 |
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How about the white gold Odysseus? I have one and think it’s a fantastic watch which is reasonably easy to obtain and currently holding its value well.
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17 April 2022, 08:02 AM | #11 |
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i thought the white gold odysseus required a purchase of a significant prior purchase
could u share your journey of "reasonably easy" purchase? |
17 April 2022, 09:01 AM | #12 |
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17 April 2022, 09:45 AM | #13 |
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17 April 2022, 12:17 PM | #14 |
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It was my first purchase. I registered an interest at the Lange boutique and it took about 12 months to arrive - I got 2 months ago.
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The only Langes that require a prior purchase are the steel Odysseus Datomatic and limited edition pieces. |
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17 April 2022, 02:16 PM | #16 |
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To my knowledge, the white gold Odysseus requires a purchase history at a Lange boutique now.
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17 April 2022, 03:42 PM | #17 |
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I would go for an 1815 chronograph. The boutique edition in White gold, ref 414.026, is probably the best alternative
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18 April 2022, 09:16 AM | #18 |
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I would vote for the 1815 chronograph. White gold with black dial or the boutique model.
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18 April 2022, 09:43 AM | #19 |
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these are very helpful - i appreciate the comments. At this point i will look at the 1815 chrono, see if they would sell a white gold odysseus as my first ALS, and im drawn to the Lange 1 moonphase.
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18 April 2022, 02:11 PM | #20 |
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+1 for the 1815 Chrono boutique edition. They stopped taking orders at some point for the 1815 Chrono boutique and WG/RG black dials, not sure if it's still the case.
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20 April 2022, 09:05 AM | #21 |
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20 April 2022, 10:19 AM | #22 |
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Copper thin blue is going over msrp now
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20 April 2022, 10:55 PM | #23 |
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To clarify: For a WG Odysseus Datomatic, the prior purchase price point would need to be in the neighborhood of a Lange 1 or higher. A lower-priced piece will not quite get there. Current wait time is about 1 year for the WG and 3 years for the SS.
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20 April 2022, 10:59 PM | #24 |
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I was lucky enough to place an order for WG Odysseus, but am told they no longer do this. And, price increases coming.
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