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shane1 · 10 January 2008, 10:16 AM

I just got the 088 and the 164 and they are fantastic watches. I am looking to buy the 183 Black Seal. Does anybody have any experience with these? and how do you like them? Thanks,

shane

shane1 · 10 January 2008, 10:41 AM

Here's a bad pic of the 88.

Robb · 10 January 2008, 10:43 AM

Great looking Pam!!!

mailman · 10 January 2008, 11:01 AM

The 88 is a beautiful watch. Good luck with them both

Launch Mini · 10 January 2008, 12:59 PM

The black seal is a nice manual wind Radiomir. Never owned a black seal ( Pam 183) but have held & tried one on.
One thing to note, the straps are 26mm rather than the 24 on your Luminors.

shane1 · 10 January 2008, 01:05 PM

Good point. That means more straps.

shane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Launch Mini

The black seal is a nice manual wind Radiomir. Never owned a black seal ( Pam 183) but have held & tried one on.
One thing to note, the straps are 26mm rather than the 24 on your Luminors.

puffnmo · 10 January 2008, 01:51 PM

How sturdy is the case, i.e. if it is knocked hard will it crack?

I know this was addressed somewhere but can't find the thread... Larry.

TheDude · 10 January 2008, 02:16 PM

Definitely go with the new 292.

It's a black ceramic Black Seal. The dial has the divers diving on the submersible... Totally pimp IMO.

Launch Mini · 10 January 2008, 02:16 PM

The Black Seal has the SS case, so no issues.
You might be thinking of the new Ceramic 292.
I have heard his ceramic is pretty tough, but will chip if you know it just right ( or wrong).
Not sure if I like this new one yet. All black, black dial, no display back, has a date & is automotic.
Will wait and see when they arrive in the showrooms.
Not trying to sell, but here is a link to a Black Seal FS on another forum. Great picks of front & back.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...ge/1199125914/

TheDude · 10 January 2008, 02:28 PM

Actually, I think you might be confusing two different models. They were both announced at the same time.

The 292 does not have a date, and is handwound. Also, it is the ceramic one. (see above)

The Radiomir Cronografo was announced at the same time, which has a steel case, and is automatic.

http://www.thewatchquote.com/Panerai...92-No_6203.htm

Launch Mini · 10 January 2008, 02:30 PM

You are correct, got the two mixed up.
The PAM287 is the SS auto with the date.
Maybe wishful thinking on my part. LOL

dman · 10 January 2008, 03:35 PM

Good luck, at least in the states getting a 292 from an AD or secondary close to list. I heard they are all but spoken for.

183 is a great price though I prefer the 210. It will wear much thinner than your luminors since the case is thinner. Nice watches, historically correct and can be dressed up.

Wolfgang427 · 10 January 2008, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDude

Definitely go with the new 292.

It's a black ceramic Black Seal. The dial has the divers diving on the submersible... Totally pimp IMO.

Wow that's a nice looking Watch.

Anybody know the price?

Tripp11 · 10 January 2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfgang427

Wow that's a nice looking Watch.

Anybody know the price?

http://www.paneristi.com/reference/p...rices2007.html

TheDude · 11 January 2008, 01:25 AM

I'd personally wait for the ceramic Marinas... It has been a long time since you could get a black Panerai.

The last was the 195...

A lot of people have been DLC-ing PAM 0 and PAM 5 models.

digdug · 11 January 2008, 01:59 PM

The Black Seal is very sharp!!

thomas311 · 12 January 2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDude

Definitely go with the new 292.

It's a black ceramic Black Seal. The dial has the divers diving on the submersible... Totally pimp IMO.

thats a great looking watch. whats the inlet dial next to the 9 for? power reserve?

shane1 · 12 January 2008, 10:13 AM

It is the seconds dial. I ended up buying the limited edition 232!! Great watch. Now I have the best of both worlds, a few Rolex's and a few Panerai!

shane

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Originally Posted by thomas311

thats a great looking watch. whats the inlet dial next to the 9 for? power reserve?

colemanitis · 13 January 2008, 11:43 AM

Awesome - another 164 owner! There's 3 on the forum that I know of now. Me, Miner, and Shane!

shane1 · 13 January 2008, 11:45 AM

I also just picked up the 232 limited edition. Very happy with it.

shane

colemanitis · 13 January 2008, 11:50 AM

You'll have to post a pic of the entire family!

billhk · 6 March 2008, 02:07 AM

aren't all panny's "ltd editions" ? sorry to ask

dman · 6 March 2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by billhk

aren't all panny's "ltd editions" ? sorry to ask

No, they are numbered in each series, ie...1/1500 Panerai 88's in the J series. Only certain models are limited for a year or so and come in a different presentation box.

They number their models because they only make around 40K watches per year.

10 January 2008, 10:16 AM	#1
shane1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 53	Panerai Black Seal I just got the 088 and the 164 and they are fantastic watches. I am looking to buy the 183 Black Seal. Does anybody have any experience with these? and how do you like them? Thanks, shane

10 January 2008, 11:01 AM	#4
mailman TRF Moderator & DATE-JUST41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,357	The 88 is a beautiful watch. Good luck with them both __________________ JJ

10 January 2008, 12:59 PM	#5
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,241	The black seal is a nice manual wind Radiomir. Never owned a black seal ( Pam 183) but have held & tried one on. One thing to note, the straps are 26mm rather than the 24 on your Luminors. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

10 January 2008, 02:16 PM	#9
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,241	The Black Seal has the SS case, so no issues. You might be thinking of the new Ceramic 292. I have heard his ceramic is pretty tough, but will chip if you know it just right ( or wrong). Not sure if I like this new one yet. All black, black dial, no display back, has a date & is automotic. Will wait and see when they arrive in the showrooms. Not trying to sell, but here is a link to a Black Seal FS on another forum. Great picks of front & back. http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...ge/1199125914/ __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

10 January 2008, 02:30 PM	#11
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,241	You are correct, got the two mixed up. The PAM287 is the SS auto with the date. Maybe wishful thinking on my part. LOL __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

10 January 2008, 10:43 AM	#3
Robb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Robb Location: USA Watch: BLNR Posts: 4,931	Great looking Pam!!!

10 January 2008, 01:51 PM	#7
puffnmo Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 848	How sturdy is the case, i.e. if it is knocked hard will it crack? I know this was addressed somewhere but can't find the thread... Larry.

10 January 2008, 02:16 PM	#8
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,482	Definitely go with the new 292. It's a black ceramic Black Seal. The dial has the divers diving on the submersible... Totally pimp IMO.

10 January 2008, 02:28 PM	#10
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,482	Actually, I think you might be confusing two different models. They were both announced at the same time. The 292 does not have a date, and is handwound. Also, it is the ceramic one. (see above) The Radiomir Cronografo was announced at the same time, which has a steel case, and is automatic. http://www.thewatchquote.com/Panerai...92-No_6203.htm

10 January 2008, 03:35 PM	#12
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,582	Good luck, at least in the states getting a 292 from an AD or secondary close to list. I heard they are all but spoken for. 183 is a great price though I prefer the 210. It will wear much thinner than your luminors since the case is thinner. Nice watches, historically correct and can be dressed up. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

11 January 2008, 01:25 AM	#15
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,482	I'd personally wait for the ceramic Marinas... It has been a long time since you could get a black Panerai. The last was the 195... A lot of people have been DLC-ing PAM 0 and PAM 5 models.

11 January 2008, 01:59 PM	#16
digdug Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fargo Watch: 16610 Posts: 113	The Black Seal is very sharp!!

13 January 2008, 11:43 AM	#19
colemanitis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida Watch: PAM 1090 Posts: 3,723	Awesome - another 164 owner! There's 3 on the forum that I know of now. Me, Miner, and Shane! __________________ Member #471

13 January 2008, 11:45 AM	#20
shane1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 53	I also just picked up the 232 limited edition. Very happy with it. shane

13 January 2008, 11:50 AM	#21
colemanitis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida Watch: PAM 1090 Posts: 3,723	You'll have to post a pic of the entire family! __________________ Member #471

6 March 2008, 02:07 AM	#22
billhk Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hong Kong Watch: 116520 Posts: 47	aren't all panny's "ltd editions" ? sorry to ask

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