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theseire · 25 January 2013, 04:49 PM

Abit confused with all these figures. So with the price drop now, what is the exact price of a brand new RG44mm after all the discount?

sushisummo · 25 January 2013, 05:50 PM

Fudge me......I got my RG 44mm late last year. Oh well, love the watch and I guess I will just enjoy wearing it and not worry too much about price......:)

bayerische · 25 January 2013, 06:46 PM

Good I guess... But I don't like that it might affect the s/h value of my WG ROC.

mb23 · 25 January 2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theseire

Abit confused with all these figures. So with the price drop now, what is the exact price of a brand new RG44mm after all the discount?

Exact prices are still not confirmed. I have confirmed though, that it is not 17% price drop on all models. It is more 20%-28% on models, that is the range. With a 10% dealer hike in costs.

I was given a few prices that are pretty scary, the 44RG is more like 20-22% reduction.

Like many have said, it is what it is at this point. Wear the watch and try to enjoy it.

bayerische · 25 January 2013, 07:53 PM

Any reduction at all on SS?

s14roller · 25 January 2013, 11:53 PM

Anyone want to sell me their 44RG now???

S`` · 26 January 2013, 12:12 AM

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Complete conjecture on my part but I'd assume they would be more corrections for precious metal than steel. Their higher prices mean that they also see a higher rate increase assuming across the board flat rate increases. So a 5% increase on a $20k steel watch is only $1k vs a 5% increase on a $60k gold watch is $3k. The higher priced watches would quickly outpace their steel brethren. So in order to avoid a price gap, wouldn't you need periodic corrections downward (gold) or upward (steel)?

Mike - do you tell fortune by any chance?

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=277065

mb23 · 26 January 2013, 12:17 AM

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Mike - do you tell fortune by any chance?

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=277065

I haven't heard that through yet.

S`` · 26 January 2013, 12:28 AM

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I haven't heard that through yet.

Not out the realm of craziness... would be nice to hear yes or no... so that the next Plan of Action could be undertaken

kilyung · 26 January 2013, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by S``

Mike - do you tell fortune by any chance?

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=277065

For my next act, I'll make a plat DD2 appear out of thin air! Poof! Heh heh heh

AshAP · 26 January 2013, 12:38 AM

The price reduction is only on 44mm rose gold Offshores as its the hardest model for dealers to sell and AP now have a stockpile of them. Some seriously uncool people have been seen wearing this watch and as a result dealer sales figures have tumbled. It's also been reported that some people keep this particular model wrapped up in plastic instead of wearing it - adding to to the growing opinion that it's just not cool!

S`` · 26 January 2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

For my next act, I'll make a plat DD2 appear out of thin air! Poof! Heh heh heh

Paid or Unpaid one.

mb23 · 26 January 2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AshAP

The price reduction is only on 44mm rose gold Offshores as its the hardest model for dealers to sell and AP now have a stockpile of them. Some seriously uncool people have been seen wearing this watch and as a result dealer sales figures have tumbled. It's also been reported that some people keep this particular model wrapped up in plastic instead of wearing it - adding to to the growing opinion that it's just not cool!

What!!! Completely untrue. AP has not 1 piece in stock of the 44 RG ROOC. They couldn't make enough to fill dealers allocations and at the moment I have 2 on order. I was told late March-April. This watch was a complete success.

S`` · 26 January 2013, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mb23

What!!! Completely untrue. AP has not 1 piece in stock of the 44 RG ROOC. They couldn't make enough to fill dealers allocations and at the moment I have 2 on order. I was told late March-April. This watch was a complete success.

Honestly... I don't think that this is a bad move at all... scare those who bought for "investment" and makes it more affordable for all!

ticketmaster123 · 26 January 2013, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AshAP

It's also been reported that some people keep this particular model wrapped up in plastic instead of wearing it - adding to to the growing opinion that it's just not cool!

kilyung · 26 January 2013, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AshAP

The price reduction is only on 44mm rose gold Offshores as its the hardest model for dealers to sell and AP now have a stockpile of them. Some seriously uncool people have been seen wearing this watch and as a result dealer sales figures have tumbled. It's also been reported that some people keep this particular model wrapped up in plastic instead of wearing it - adding to to the growing opinion that it's just not cool!

That's too funny.

S`` · 26 January 2013, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AshAP

The price reduction is only on 44mm rose gold Offshores as its the hardest model for dealers to sell and AP now have a stockpile of them. Some seriously uncool people have been seen wearing this watch and as a result dealer sales figures have tumbled. It's also been reported that some people keep this particular model wrapped up in plastic instead of wearing it - adding to to the growing opinion that it's just not cool!

50% off now?

get me 2 of them please

mb23 · 26 January 2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AshAP

The price reduction is only on 44mm rose gold Offshores as its the hardest model for dealers to sell and AP now have a stockpile of them. Some seriously uncool people have been seen wearing this watch and as a result dealer sales figures have tumbled. It's also been reported that some people keep this particular model wrapped up in plastic instead of wearing it - adding to to the growing opinion that it's just not cool!

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That's too funny.

I have to come back in and read this again, that's how funny it was.

Bulliondesk · 26 January 2013, 01:00 AM

Alright fellas.. 99% confirmed and discussed with my good buddy Michael..

Approximately 20-30% reduction in most gold MSRP's. (Still waiting for exact % MSRP decrease and which specific models etc). Wholesale is now 35% for these models from 43-47%. And apparently AP may offer some consolidation to people who have purchased gold pieces very recently. (Still waiting for this to be confirmed from AP).

theseire · 26 January 2013, 01:09 AM

I got my RG44mm sometime in May 2012, paid about 26% of the MSRP in Singapore for a brand new piece

S`` · 26 January 2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by theseire

I got my RG44mm sometime in May 2012, paid about 26% of the MSRP in Singapore for a brand new piece

26% off MSRP or 26% of the MSRP... big differences lol

kilyung · 26 January 2013, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by theseire

I got my RG44mm sometime in May 2012, paid about 26% of the MSRP in Singapore for a brand new piece

I'll buy a couple at 26% of retail!

SubKing · 26 January 2013, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AshAP

The price reduction is only on 44mm rose gold Offshores as its the hardest model for dealers to sell and AP now have a stockpile of them. Some seriously uncool people have been seen wearing this watch and as a result dealer sales figures have tumbled. It's also been reported that some people keep this particular model wrapped up in plastic instead of wearing it - adding to to the growing opinion that it's just not cool!

This guy is just trying to start something with me for no reason.. You're also speaking to FremStar as well as he too has kept his in the plastic.

theseire · 26 January 2013, 01:45 AM

Not sure about that 26% of retail, paid about USD46k for my RG44 and USD26k for my FC44. The lowest I have seen a preown RG44 being sold here is about USD43k.

kilyung · 26 January 2013, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by theseire

Not sure about that 26% of retail, paid about USD46k for my RG44 and USD26k for my FC44. The lowest I have seen a preown RG44 being sold here is about USD43k.

So it's 'OFF retail' not 'OF retail'.

SubKing · 26 January 2013, 01:52 AM

I have just double confirmed this morning with 2 sources, one an AD owner and another solid source that AP is not, I repeat not charging a 10% premium to the AD's on gold models thus not changing their profit margin's..

I was told any AD that states that their profit margin has changed is just saying this to make more money on the watch due to the decrease by not discounting as much. This is all solid info.

So AD's can still give the same discounts as before the price drop.

S`` · 26 January 2013, 01:58 AM

I don't get the hoo-haa... obviously you bought the watch and paid for it for a price AT THAT PARTICULAR PERIOD... product was delivered per expectation... Anything else like credits should be based on Goodwill and nothing more IMO...

theseire · 26 January 2013, 02:07 AM

In Singapore, if you go to any of the ADs here, it is next to impossible to see any of the new 44mm's for sale. I have only seen the RG and FC at the boutique here.

AshAP · 26 January 2013, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sushisummo

Fudge me......I got my RG 44mm late last year. Oh well, love the watch and I guess I will just enjoy wearing it and not worry too much about price......:)

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Originally Posted by SubKing

This guy is just trying to start something with me for no reason.. You're also speaking to FremStar as well as he too has kept his in the plastic.

Dude, I hate to tell you this but FremStar is a muppet. He probably only told you to keep the plastic on to make you look like a muppet too.

mb23 · 26 January 2013, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SubKing

I have just double confirmed this morning with 2 sources, one an AD owner and another solid source that AP is not, I repeat not charging a 10% premium to the AD's on gold models thus not changing their profit margin's..

I was told any AD that states that their profit margin has changed is just saying this to make more money on the watch due to the decrease by not discounting as much. This is all solid info.

So AD's can still give the same discounts as before the price drop.

Not true. It's 100% being raised to keep the watch market level. If they didn't do it dealers would continue to offer the same % and current gold models will crash. I have no cat in the race here, but I do understand the need to raise the margins to dealers. Keeping them the same and changing the prices by 30% would make current gold models fall to less then 50% off on the secondary market. It would be a complete disaster for AP.

25 January 2013, 05:50 PM	#92
sushisummo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: JT Location: in a house....:) Watch: Hmmm......? Posts: 1,776	Fudge me......I got my RG 44mm late last year. Oh well, love the watch and I guess I will just enjoy wearing it and not worry too much about price......:) __________________ Collections: -- R-O-L-E-X --AP-ROO -- P-A-N-E-R-A-I -- B-R-E-G-U-E-T -- I-W-C -- B-A-L-L -- O-T-H-E-R-S WISHLIST: Too many to list...... Member #23367

25 January 2013, 06:46 PM	#93
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Good I guess... But I don't like that it might affect the s/h value of my WG ROC. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

25 January 2013, 07:53 PM	#95
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Any reduction at all on SS? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

25 January 2013, 04:49 PM	#91
theseire "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 53	Abit confused with all these figures. So with the price drop now, what is the exact price of a brand new RG44mm after all the discount?

25 January 2013, 11:53 PM	#96
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,246	Anyone want to sell me their 44RG now???

26 January 2013, 12:38 AM	#101
AshAP "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ash Location: UK Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 4,544	The price reduction is only on 44mm rose gold Offshores as its the hardest model for dealers to sell and AP now have a stockpile of them. Some seriously uncool people have been seen wearing this watch and as a result dealer sales figures have tumbled. It's also been reported that some people keep this particular model wrapped up in plastic instead of wearing it - adding to to the growing opinion that it's just not cool!

26 January 2013, 01:00 AM	#109
Bulliondesk Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: Howard100/101 Posts: 656	Alright fellas.. 99% confirmed and discussed with my good buddy Michael.. Approximately 20-30% reduction in most gold MSRP's. (Still waiting for exact % MSRP decrease and which specific models etc). Wholesale is now 35% for these models from 43-47%. And apparently AP may offer some consolidation to people who have purchased gold pieces very recently. (Still waiting for this to be confirmed from AP).

26 January 2013, 01:09 AM	#110
theseire "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 53	I got my RG44mm sometime in May 2012, paid about 26% of the MSRP in Singapore for a brand new piece

26 January 2013, 01:45 AM	#114
theseire "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 53	Not sure about that 26% of retail, paid about USD46k for my RG44 and USD26k for my FC44. The lowest I have seen a preown RG44 being sold here is about USD43k.

26 January 2013, 01:52 AM	#116
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	I have just double confirmed this morning with 2 sources, one an AD owner and another solid source that AP is not, I repeat not charging a 10% premium to the AD's on gold models thus not changing their profit margin's.. I was told any AD that states that their profit margin has changed is just saying this to make more money on the watch due to the decrease by not discounting as much. This is all solid info. So AD's can still give the same discounts as before the price drop.

26 January 2013, 01:58 AM	#117
S`` "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Not Mars Posts: 1,004	I don't get the hoo-haa... obviously you bought the watch and paid for it for a price AT THAT PARTICULAR PERIOD... product was delivered per expectation... Anything else like credits should be based on Goodwill and nothing more IMO...

26 January 2013, 02:07 AM	#118
theseire "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 53	In Singapore, if you go to any of the ADs here, it is next to impossible to see any of the new 44mm's for sale. I have only seen the RG and FC at the boutique here.

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