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jem7v · 10 April 2017, 10:41 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rigsCqKsVVw

Highlights:

Ceramic PC requires a new mold for every single watch. That is interesting and obnoxiously expensive to produce.

In house chrono movement is done. It's up to them to decide when they want to release it, but it's finished and ready.

texex91 · 10 April 2017, 10:57 AM

Yep, ceramic is fun to produce.

No one really appreciates what it takes to make those cases.

Molds are a lot less expensive though than entire machines that need to be replaced, like some specialized material CNC machined cases require.

whatching · 10 April 2017, 11:55 AM

Any chance this devalues the 2385 roc? Hope you guys can chime in. Not really familiar with movement changes to inhouse and how it affected the previous models.

texasmade · 10 April 2017, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

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In house chrono movement is done. It's up to them to decide when they want to release it, but it's finished and ready.

Note to self. Start saving now and don't buy anymore watches.

GB-man · 10 April 2017, 12:33 PM

I love this guy. " I have a message not only for you but for everyone else, try to copy that one"

Would kill for a drink with this chap

benlee · 10 April 2017, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jem7v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rigsCqKsVVw

Highlights:

Ceramic PC requires a new mold for every single watch. That is interesting and obnoxiously expensive to produce.

In house chrono movement is done. It's up to them to decide when they want to release it, but it's finished and ready.

Is that new mold just for the Ceramic PPC? Or for the 42 and 44mm Ceramic ROOs as well?

benlee · 10 April 2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I love this guy. " I have a message not only for you but for everyone else, try to copy that one"

Would kill for a drink with this chap

He should not say that. Someone will probably try. Esp in China.

You don't need to kill to have a drink with him. Just buy enough AP watches from boutique and gets a private trip to tour AP Geneva. Like what Roger did.

kitsgq · 10 April 2017, 04:27 PM

That openworked tourbillon is absolutely mesmerizing. But on a more practical note I look forward to the in house Chrono release. That will be a game changer.

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APAP · 10 April 2017, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kitsgq

That openworked tourbillon is absolutely mesmerizing. But on a more practical note I look forward to the in house Chrono release. That will be a game changer.

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It's too silvery imo; a bit boring. Prefer the non-tourbillion (from a looks' perspective solely). That said; would love to own a tourbillion piece.

GB-man · 10 April 2017, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by benlee

He should not say that. Someone will probably try. Esp in China.

You don't need to kill to have a drink with him. Just buy enough AP watches from boutique and gets a private trip to tour AP Geneva. Like what Roger did.

Therein lies the problem Ben. I would have to kill to get the loot to buy that many APs

Would love to tour lebrassus some day though

Chadridv · 11 April 2017, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I love this guy. " I have a message not only for you but for everyone else, try to copy that one"

Would kill for a drink with this chap

haha yeah that was pretty cool.

That all ceramic RO Perpetual Calendar is amazing.

Tvall13 · 11 April 2017, 02:10 AM

Better start saving now for the in-house ROC!

Lordofrolex · 11 April 2017, 02:35 AM

was he wearing a 37mm frosted AP RO? It looked like a 41mm Frosted. Is that a 1 of 1?

AK797 · 11 April 2017, 08:11 AM

Wonder what model design is awaiting the new in-house.

jem7v · 11 April 2017, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

was he wearing a 37mm frosted AP RO? It looked like a 41mm Frosted. Is that a 1 of 1?

I think it was a 1 of 1 41mm frosted. It had a blue dial. Or maybe it was 39mm 1 of 1.

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Originally Posted by AK797

Wonder what model design is awaiting the new in-house.

Probably they will release some new nonsense one this year with it. Then next year all the ROCs will have them.

singe89 · 11 April 2017, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Wonder what model design is awaiting the new in-house.

I'm thinking they will do an updated jules audemars chrono to try and spark some demand for that line and then put it in the RO as well. I don't know if they will put it in the ROO right away since it already uses the 3126 and the larger/thicker cases can easily house the modular movement.

Hairdude1 · 11 April 2017, 02:38 PM

Cool video, can't wait till the in house chrono is here

Sammk · 11 April 2017, 07:17 PM

They are probably going to launch new models with the inhouse...next SIHH I guess.. wonder what they have in store..

Any affect it will have on the previous models with the piguet f movements? Like a price increase or decrease etc? Any idea what happened in the past when a similar move was made by AP?

jem7v · 11 April 2017, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by singe89

I'm thinking they will do an updated jules audemars chrono to try and spark some demand for that line and then put it in the RO as well. I don't know if they will put it in the ROO right away since it already uses the 3126 and the larger/thicker cases can easily house the modular movement.

Is there an advantage to changing out the 3126? That one is already an in house chrono movement isn't it? I thought the chrono movement they were developing was specifically for the ROCs because they were the last ones left with an outsourced movement.

991 · 11 April 2017, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

Is there an advantage to changing out the 3126? That one is already an in house chrono movement isn't it? I thought the chrono movement they were developing was specifically for the ROCs because they were the last ones left with an outsourced movement.

ROO chronos are also not in house.

AK797 · 11 April 2017, 10:56 PM

ROOs have the calibre 3126/3840 now. ROCs are the most likely candidate and the JA is a good shout to help kickstart more sales.

https://www.watchcollectinglifestyle...-oak-offshores

singe89 · 11 April 2017, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jem7v

Is there an advantage to changing out the 3126? That one is already an in house chrono movement isn't it? I thought the chrono movement they were developing was specifically for the ROCs because they were the last ones left with an outsourced movement.

3126 uses the in house 3120 as a base movement and a chrono module from Dubois Depraz so it's not entirely in house and many prefer integrated chronos. I really don't mind modular chronos and the ROO has always had them so it's part of the history of the watch in my mind.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.ablog...nt-module/amp/

jem7v · 12 April 2017, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by singe89

3126 uses the in house 3120 as a base movement and a chrono module from Dubois Depraz so it's not entirely in house and many prefer integrated chronos. I really don't mind modular chronos and the ROO has always had them so it's part of the history of the watch in my mind.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.ablog...nt-module/amp/

Isn't that how AP does all their watches? Like the 2121? Don't they just stick modules on top for all the PC, equation of time, etc?

Lrlx · 12 April 2017, 03:53 AM

The ROC is already on the pricier side... inhouse movement + sapphire caseback may warranty a big price increase.
Then again what if they pull a 'Tudor and just raise it $500?

mspeed76 · 16 April 2017, 07:37 PM

i think hes saying each piece of the link requires a unique mold since they are all different sizes.

... not for a new mold for every watch made

cant wait for the new in house chronos

10 April 2017, 10:41 AM	#1
jem7v Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 842	Video from AP CEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rigsCqKsVVw Highlights: Ceramic PC requires a new mold for every single watch. That is interesting and obnoxiously expensive to produce. In house chrono movement is done. It's up to them to decide when they want to release it, but it's finished and ready.

11 April 2017, 02:35 AM	#13
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	was he wearing a 37mm frosted AP RO? It looked like a 41mm Frosted. Is that a 1 of 1? __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

11 April 2017, 02:38 PM	#17
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Cool video, can't wait till the in house chrono is here __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

10 April 2017, 10:57 AM	#2
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Yep, ceramic is fun to produce. No one really appreciates what it takes to make those cases. Molds are a lot less expensive though than entire machines that need to be replaced, like some specialized material CNC machined cases require.

10 April 2017, 11:55 AM	#3
whatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: onshore Posts: 71	Any chance this devalues the 2385 roc? Hope you guys can chime in. Not really familiar with movement changes to inhouse and how it affected the previous models.

10 April 2017, 12:33 PM	#5
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	I love this guy. " I have a message not only for you but for everyone else, try to copy that one" Would kill for a drink with this chap

10 April 2017, 04:27 PM	#8
kitsgq "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: US Posts: 403	That openworked tourbillon is absolutely mesmerizing. But on a more practical note I look forward to the in house Chrono release. That will be a game changer. Sent from my SM-N920W8 using Tapatalk

11 April 2017, 02:10 AM	#12
Tvall13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: US Watch: Rolex Datejust II Posts: 370	Better start saving now for the in-house ROC!

11 April 2017, 08:11 AM	#14
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	Wonder what model design is awaiting the new in-house.

11 April 2017, 07:17 PM	#18
Sammk "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: & learn Posts: 1,013	They are probably going to launch new models with the inhouse...next SIHH I guess.. wonder what they have in store.. Any affect it will have on the previous models with the piguet f movements? Like a price increase or decrease etc? Any idea what happened in the past when a similar move was made by AP?

11 April 2017, 10:56 PM	#21
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	ROOs have the calibre 3126/3840 now. ROCs are the most likely candidate and the JA is a good shout to help kickstart more sales. https://www.watchcollectinglifestyle...-oak-offshores

12 April 2017, 03:53 AM	#24
Lrlx "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ny Posts: 292	The ROC is already on the pricier side... inhouse movement + sapphire caseback may warranty a big price increase. Then again what if they pull a 'Tudor and just raise it $500?

16 April 2017, 07:37 PM	#25
mspeed76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: United States Watch: AP, RM Posts: 605	i think hes saying each piece of the link requires a unique mold since they are all different sizes. ... not for a new mold for every watch made cant wait for the new in house chronos

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