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Plastique999 · 23 April 2017, 06:17 PM

I have a 15305OR I wear to work quite often and need a "sports watch" with durability. Therefore, I want a watch with either ceramic or forged carbon material. I have a smaller wrist, and a 44mm is just way too big. The 42 mm is even slightly pushing it.
I've been thinking a while about and have decided upon the Ceramic diver with orange accents.
It seems these are much harder to find than its counterpart with yellow accents - why is that? I saw a used yellow one for sale around $17k.
It seems most others sell just under MSRP even though used....wondering what's a good price range?
Since it's a discontinued model, anyone have any leads?

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lapince · 23 April 2017, 06:57 PM

There are a few on chrono24, try there, they sell for their last retail price mostly, even used, but they are worth it, it's a great watch

SC11 · 23 April 2017, 07:05 PM

I looked a few months back and they all seemed around £20,000 all used examples ideally wanted BNIB but think the boats sailed on that one given the time since being discontinued.

I decided against it in the end as I could get a 44mm ROO for around the same.

GB-man · 24 April 2017, 12:38 AM

Yellow has a forged carbon case, not ceramic, and is older. These tend to trade for 3-5k less than the all ceramic.

I would expect to pay 20-22k usd for one. It's a great watch but I am not overly fond of the all black look so I flipped it pretty quick.

Plastique999 · 24 April 2017, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Yellow has a forged carbon case, not ceramic, and is older. These tend to trade for 3-5k less than the all ceramic.

I would expect to pay 20-22k usd for one. It's a great watch but I am not overly fond of the all black look so I flipped it pretty quick.

Thanks yes, I actually like the Forged Carbon look. Interestingly, I ordered a Huracan Performante which has forged Carbon as well. I didn't know the yellow model was older than the all ceramic orange.

Price point seems about right. I was thinking of putting it on orange strap
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jem7v · 24 April 2017, 01:48 AM

Oh? Cars are now getting forged carbon? From the factory? That is impressive. I still rather have the 2x2 twill look though on the car.

lapince · 24 April 2017, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

Oh? Cars are now getting forged carbon? From the factory? That is impressive. I still rather have the 2x2 twill look though on the car.

Not cars, Lambos

GB-man · 24 April 2017, 02:30 AM

Congrats that's a near perfect machine.

I actually really like the orange strap. I love that color of orange in general and that's probably why I was initially drawn to the 15707.

You can't really go wrong with the diver c. If you don't like it, it'd an easy watch to move.

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Originally Posted by Plastique999

Thanks yes, I actually like the Forged Carbon look. Interestingly, I ordered a Huracan Performante which has forged Carbon as well. I didn't know the yellow model was older than the all ceramic orange.

Price point seems about right. I was thinking of putting it on orange strap
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AK797 · 24 April 2017, 06:47 AM

Small wrist nothing, with a car like that you could rock a 44 no problem, maybe even a Schumi, go big or go home... but have a nice drive around first.

GB-man · 24 April 2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Small wrist nothing, with a car like that you could rock a 44 no problem, maybe even a Schumi, go big or go home... but have a nice drive around first.

I will say if you can pull off the diver...you can pull off the 44

AK797 · 24 April 2017, 11:30 AM

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I will say if you can pull off the diver...you can pull off the 44

OP could def make this work.

Tomas Eriksson · 24 April 2017, 02:56 PM

The ceramic diver is less common than the forged carbon diver. There is a old thread here with a e-mail from a Japanese AP boutique stating that there were only 350 made, the same for the white one.
Pricing is hard... I bought my ceramic diver 5 month ago and I payed 20k gbp. Maybe a tad much but I really wanted it and haven't regretted it. I have been approached more than once about selling mine so market seems strong.

My take on 42 vs 44 is that the 44s do wear noticeably larger. I tried on multiple 44s but I can't pull it off in many opinions.. 42 however feels and look great on me.

Cheers and happy hunting!

APAP · 24 April 2017, 04:38 PM

You will love the CE diver. Has an amazing, yet stealthy, wrist presence

DeeTee · 25 April 2017, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Plastique999

Thanks yes, I actually like the Forged Carbon look. Interestingly, I ordered a Huracan Performante which has forged Carbon as well. I didn't know the yellow model was older than the all ceramic orange.

Price point seems about right. I was thinking of putting it on orange strap
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I've never seen forged carbon on a car before. Is it in the interior also? It looks fantastic congrats!

Plastique999 · 25 April 2017, 12:56 AM

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I've never seen forged carbon on a car before. Is it in the interior also? It looks fantastic congrats!

Interior - looks amazing!
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Plastique999 · 25 April 2017, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Small wrist nothing, with a car like that you could rock a 44 no problem, maybe even a Schumi, go big or go home... but have a nice drive around first.

Lol, thanks guys.
I wish I could but the 44 will def look too big.
I tried on my friend's 42 Bumblebee and it barely fit.
Does the Ceramic diver fit similarly too the Bumblebee?

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brettpaul · 25 April 2017, 01:09 AM

I feel your pain my friend - been trying to find a CE Diver for 3 months now - been offered a couple but not in the pristine condition that I want.

Expect to pay 20-23 for a mint example min.

GB-man · 25 April 2017, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brettpaul

I feel your pain my friend - been trying to find a CE Diver for 3 months now - been offered a couple but not in the pristine condition that I want.

Expect to pay 20-23 for a mint example min.

What condition issues are you finding? Edge chips?

brettpaul · 25 April 2017, 01:32 AM

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What condition issues are you finding? Edge chips?

I've been offered 3 and one had a chip, one had a stripped (unmovable) screw, and the last one had been opened by the in-house watchmaker (not AP certified)....sigh

Plastique999 · 25 April 2017, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brettpaul

I've been offered 3 and one had a chip, one had a stripped (unmovable) screw, and the last one had been opened by the in-house watchmaker (not AP certified)....sigh

Wow, how did you find about about the last one being opened?

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brettpaul · 25 April 2017, 11:11 PM

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Wow, how did you find about about the last one being opened?

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The seller in the U.K. was transparent with me and told his shop watchmaker had opened the watch to inspect the movement.

SC11 · 25 April 2017, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brettpaul

The seller in the U.K. was transparent with me and told his shop watchmaker had opened the watch to inspect the movement.

Was that the one from Official Watches?

brettpaul · 25 April 2017, 11:37 PM

Have to check my email...got responses for 2 UK dealers

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brettpaul · 25 April 2017, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SC11

Was that the one from Official Watches?

Yes

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SC11 · 26 April 2017, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by brettpaul

Yes

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Thanks

GB-man · 26 April 2017, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brettpaul

The seller in the U.K. was transparent with me and told his shop watchmaker had opened the watch to inspect the movement.

Seems odd unless there was an issue and he was being cheap. He could easily inspect it through the sapphire caseback

brettpaul · 26 April 2017, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Seems odd unless there was an issue and he was being cheap. He could easily inspect it through the sapphire caseback

That's what I thought too - watch is working and from a trusted source np...so maybe not working or not from a trusted source = no bueno for me!

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masyv6 · 2 May 2017, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by APAP

You will love the CE diver. Has an amazing, yet stealthy, wrist presence

Amazing picture! The finishing on the ceramic is so good.

redsubby · 3 May 2017, 12:05 AM

It's a awesome piece, I love it.

Tomas Eriksson · 3 May 2017, 03:06 AM

https://youtu.be/lL6AiKBkfN0
Brand new video of the ce diver with great macro shots.

23 April 2017, 06:17 PM	#1
Plastique999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: CA Watch: VC Toledo 1952 Posts: 1,063	In search of Ceramic Diver (orange) I have a 15305OR I wear to work quite often and need a "sports watch" with durability. Therefore, I want a watch with either ceramic or forged carbon material. I have a smaller wrist, and a 44mm is just way too big. The 42 mm is even slightly pushing it. I've been thinking a while about and have decided upon the Ceramic diver with orange accents. It seems these are much harder to find than its counterpart with yellow accents - why is that? I saw a used yellow one for sale around $17k. It seems most others sell just under MSRP even though used....wondering what's a good price range? Since it's a discontinued model, anyone have any leads? Sent from my Zeitwerk

24 April 2017, 02:56 PM	#12
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 1,986	The ceramic diver is less common than the forged carbon diver. There is a old thread here with a e-mail from a Japanese AP boutique stating that there were only 350 made, the same for the white one. Pricing is hard... I bought my ceramic diver 5 month ago and I payed 20k gbp. Maybe a tad much but I really wanted it and haven't regretted it. I have been approached more than once about selling mine so market seems strong. My take on 42 vs 44 is that the 44s do wear noticeably larger. I tried on multiple 44s but I can't pull it off in many opinions.. 42 however feels and look great on me. Cheers and happy hunting! __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

25 April 2017, 01:09 AM	#17
brettpaul "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: Bahrain, Dubai Watch: Rolex and AP Posts: 5,538	I feel your pain my friend - been trying to find a CE Diver for 3 months now - been offered a couple but not in the pristine condition that I want. Expect to pay 20-23 for a mint example min. __________________ Photostream on Instagram brett_in_bahrain

25 April 2017, 11:37 PM	#23
brettpaul "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: Bahrain, Dubai Watch: Rolex and AP Posts: 5,538	Have to check my email...got responses for 2 UK dealers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Photostream on Instagram brett_in_bahrain

3 May 2017, 03:06 AM	#30
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 1,986	https://youtu.be/lL6AiKBkfN0 Brand new video of the ce diver with great macro shots. __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

23 April 2017, 06:57 PM	#2
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	There are a few on chrono24, try there, they sell for their last retail price mostly, even used, but they are worth it, it's a great watch

23 April 2017, 07:05 PM	#3
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	I looked a few months back and they all seemed around £20,000 all used examples ideally wanted BNIB but think the boats sailed on that one given the time since being discontinued. I decided against it in the end as I could get a 44mm ROO for around the same.

24 April 2017, 12:38 AM	#4
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,864	Yellow has a forged carbon case, not ceramic, and is older. These tend to trade for 3-5k less than the all ceramic. I would expect to pay 20-22k usd for one. It's a great watch but I am not overly fond of the all black look so I flipped it pretty quick.

24 April 2017, 01:48 AM	#6
jem7v Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 842	Oh? Cars are now getting forged carbon? From the factory? That is impressive. I still rather have the 2x2 twill look though on the car.

24 April 2017, 06:47 AM	#9
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,232	Small wrist nothing, with a car like that you could rock a 44 no problem, maybe even a Schumi, go big or go home... but have a nice drive around first.

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APAP "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 748	You will love the CE diver. Has an amazing, yet stealthy, wrist presence

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