The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Old 4 March 2014, 02:42 AM   #1
Outislander
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Europe
Posts: 28
Tudor 94110 movement?

Hello,

I've recently been looking to buy a Tudor Submariner and I've learned a lot from this (and other) forums. Thanks!

I am tempted by a blue 94110 which seems to be OK except that the vendor, a professional, says that the movement is an ETA 2783 and every 94110 I have seen on the Internet has an ETA 2784.

The serial number is 964xxx which, I think, puts the watch at 1981-'82.

I have asked the vendor for a photo of the movement.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Richard (New member)
Outislander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 March 2014, 01:34 PM   #2
T5AUS
"TRF" Member
 
T5AUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Real Name: Phil
Location: Brisbane Aus.
Watch: ing the time go by
Posts: 1,443
My 9411/0 blue dial with date

has a ser #845*** and has an ETA 2784 movement
__________________
www.journeyjottings.com
T5AUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2014, 04:51 PM   #3
Outislander
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Europe
Posts: 28
Is there nobody who can shed any light on this?

Richard
Outislander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2014, 06:38 PM   #4
John in MA
"TRF" Member
 
John in MA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 862
I've heard others say that snowflakes have had 2783's in them. I know Tudor has made 2783's for other watches but I have never seen one in a 9411. A shot of the balance will help shed light on if it is a "Tudor" movement. Is it original to a 9411? I've never personally seen one like that. Doesn't mean they don't exist but the rarity level is so severe it actually would hurt your chances of resale.

Also, show some patience. 2 hour wait when a majority of the people are sleeping isn't unreasonable for a response.
__________________
Formerly John in SC and John in TN

How To: Remove a Tudor Pelagos Endlink in 60 Seconds or Less
John in MA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2014, 12:42 AM   #5
Outislander
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Europe
Posts: 28
Hello John,

Thanks for this. I am waiting for the vendor to send a photo of the movement. It seems he is also a little anxious about this matter.

Please forgive the impatience: I like the watch and hope that someone will provide some reassurance that this combo of 94110 + ETA 2783 is legitimate.

Richard
Outislander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2014, 02:51 AM   #6
linesiders
2024 Pledge Member
 
linesiders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: RedSox Nation
Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis
Posts: 5,418
Mine is also 2784, serial 937,xxx

I would be very hesitant on a 2783
__________________
I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!
linesiders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 March 2014, 09:24 PM   #7
Outislander
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Europe
Posts: 28
Good morning all,

Here are two photos of the movement plus one of the inside of the case back.

Please let me know what you think.

Richard
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Tudor Sub 140317 Movement 1.jpg (69.7 KB, 803 views)
File Type: jpg Tudor Sub 140317 Movement 2.jpg (61.9 KB, 785 views)
File Type: jpg Tudor Sub 140317 Case back - inside.jpg (44.1 KB, 778 views)
Outislander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 March 2014, 11:07 PM   #8
linesiders
2024 Pledge Member
 
linesiders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: RedSox Nation
Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis
Posts: 5,418
Hard to say. Rotor is different than my Tudor Rotor - 30K serial earlier.

Plain balance wheel?

I might pass.
__________________
I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!
linesiders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 March 2014, 05:54 AM   #9
John in MA
"TRF" Member
 
John in MA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 862
Tudor 94110 movement?

This is what a Tudor 2783 balance should look like.



I'd want to see the Tudor stamping on the dial side of the movement at this point.
__________________
Formerly John in SC and John in TN

How To: Remove a Tudor Pelagos Endlink in 60 Seconds or Less
John in MA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 March 2014, 07:55 AM   #10
Outislander
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Europe
Posts: 28
Hello,

Thanks to everyone for all the advice. I've decided to pass on this watch because of:
- High price
- Doubts about the 2783 movement
- Non-original bracelet
- No box or certificate

I guess I'm nervous and don't want to go ahead until everything feels right.

Richard

Richard
Outislander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 April 2014, 06:19 PM   #11
tieto
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Finland
Posts: 1
Hi,

don't know if it's too late for you, but the moderator on this forum had the 2783 verified original by RSC.

http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/in...p?topic=4982.0
tieto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2014, 05:33 AM   #12
bennyp
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 14
I recently acquired a 94110 Snowflake that has a 2783 movement. I brought it to the Rolex Service Center here in NYC to be authenticated and they confirmed that it's 100% legit and both 2784 and 2783 movements were used in these watches.

Hope this helps anyone else with the same dilemma!
bennyp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2014, 05:54 AM   #13
Vincent65
"TRF" Member
 
Vincent65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 14,293
Quote:
Originally Posted by T5AUS View Post
has a ser #845*** and has an ETA 2784 movement

x2 exactly the same for me; blue 9411/0 with cal. 2784 - here's a pic of the movement:
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2014-05-09 15.16.24.jpg (80.2 KB, 625 views)
Vincent65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2014, 08:41 AM   #14
CrownMe
"TRF" Member
 
CrownMe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Real Name: Kevin
Location: Maryland
Watch: My Open 6
Posts: 3,433
Quote:
Originally Posted by bennyp View Post
I recently acquired a 94110 Snowflake that has a 2783 movement. I brought it to the Rolex Service Center here in NYC to be authenticated and they confirmed that it's 100% legit and both 2784 and 2783 movements were used in these watches.

Hope this helps anyone else with the same dilemma!


RSC does not always know what there talking about with vintage so i wouldnt put much faith in that. My snowflake had a 2784.
CrownMe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2014, 11:18 AM   #15
John in MA
"TRF" Member
 
John in MA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 862
Tudor 94110 movement?

Late serial 9411's had 2783 movements
__________________
Formerly John in SC and John in TN

How To: Remove a Tudor Pelagos Endlink in 60 Seconds or Less
John in MA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 October 2014, 04:13 AM   #16
bennyp
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by John in MA View Post
Late serial 9411's had 2783 movements
Correct. Even though the folks at RSC can be dummies I spoke with someone who knew what they were talking about. They had to do some extra research through their archives and determined the 2783 was a-okay. My flake is from 1981.

I also came across 2 other flakes with 2783 movements recently from the early 80's.
bennyp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 November 2014, 09:28 PM   #17
Outislander
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Europe
Posts: 28
Thanks to all for your contributions.

Richard
Outislander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 January 2021, 02:34 AM   #18
HORNBLOWER
"TRF" Member
 
HORNBLOWER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Real Name: Ben
Location: Ireland
Watch: 1 OR 2
Posts: 2,635
Mine is a 1981 and the 2783 cal is correct. Tudor used both movements as available.
HORNBLOWER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 January 2021, 04:48 AM   #19
harry in montreal
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Montreal
Watch: The Habs pick 1st!
Posts: 3,589
I think this is a discussion from 2014. Obama was in his first term, and I had hair ! All good it’s a fun read
harry in montreal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 January 2021, 10:20 AM   #20
Filipćo
"TRF" Member
 
Filipćo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Real Name: Filipe
Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah
Watch: Never too many
Posts: 1,898
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry in montreal View Post
I think this is a discussion from 2014. Obama was in his first term, and I had hair ! All good it’s a fun read
Indeed! Loved it anyway
Filipćo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 January 2021, 10:44 AM   #21
Dan S
2024 Pledge Member
 
Dan S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 5,842
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry in montreal View Post
I think this is a discussion from 2014. Obama was in his first term, and I had hair ! All good it’s a fun read
But ya know ... one more data point never hurts.
__________________
@oldwatchdan on IG
Dan S is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2021, 01:30 AM   #22
HORNBLOWER
"TRF" Member
 
HORNBLOWER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Real Name: Ben
Location: Ireland
Watch: 1 OR 2
Posts: 2,635
Truth is ageless...
HORNBLOWER is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Takuya Watches

Bobs Watches

Asset Appeal

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches

Coronet


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.