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narembeen · 19 June 2020, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by v1triol

I do not remember who did you use in Hong Kong(?), but CWR is based there too.
They can be able to restore that dial.

https://www.instagram.com/classicwatchrepair/

Thanks yeah I believe thats where I am sending the dial once its sent back to me.

FrenchBigCrown · 19 June 2020, 08:37 PM

If you want the very best refinished dial - then you'll need to seek out 'Ivan The Dark Lord'.

The problem is, he's expensive - and a bit of a 'Banksy'* character and difficult to contact.

Do a google search for "Rolex Ivan The Dark Lord".

Or try over on https://rwg.cc/ (I hope it's OK to post this link - if not, Mods, please remove with my apologies.)

Good luck, whatever you decide.

*Banksy is an 'anonymous' British street artist for those who may not know.

narembeen · 19 June 2020, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchBigCrown

If you want the very best refinished dial - then you'll need to seek out 'Ivan The Dark Lord'.

The problem is, he's expensive - and a bit of a 'Banksy'* character and difficult to contact.

Do a google search for "Rolex Ivan The Dark Lord".

Or try over on https://rwg.cc/ (I hope it's OK to post this link - if not, Mods, please remove with my apologies.)

Good luck, whatever you decide.

*Banksy is an 'anonymous' British street artist for those who may not know.

Thanks! I want it done right if I go down that road.

andrewjb88 · 20 June 2020, 01:56 PM

Really looking forward to seeing the results with this one! love stories like this.

Wear it in good health when you get it back.

Mattjames84 · 20 June 2020, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickn

No but I have had auctions cancelled by the seller and it’s not nice, fair or an auction
Imagine if a proper auction house acted in this way
And you can always set a reserve

Yeah yeah yeah... what about the guys that bid and win after a 7 day auction and then dont pay because suddenly they cant or "bid by mistake".. quit bitchin... anyone has every right to back out of any sale before its final. Screw ebay and their terms.. it happens.

narembeen · 20 June 2020, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattjames84

Yeah yeah yeah... what about the guys that bid and win after a 7 day auction and then dont pay because suddenly they cant or "bid by mistake".. quit bitchin... anyone has every right to back out of any sale before its final. Screw ebay and their terms.. it happens.

In the end the terms of the sale changed as I was made acutely aware of the true value of this watch by a very nice bloke on ebay who told me I was crazy (Thanks to whoever you were!). Additionally, I was not being thrown on the scrap heap employment wise, so I could afford to keep it and in turn have it restored.

Thanks for having a go at this guy for me, I saw those posts and I just ignored them but it was dumb to get so upset. Things change, its simple.

tekno · 21 June 2020, 06:00 PM

Have Classic fix it in HK

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athom · 21 June 2020, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by narembeen

Thanks yeah I believe thats where I am sending the dial once its sent back to me.

sorry but this quality of work is SH*T

athom · 21 June 2020, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1triol

I do not remember who did you use in Hong Kong(?), but CWR is based there too.
They can be able to restore that dial.

https://www.instagram.com/classicwatchrepair/

sorry but this quality of work is SH*T

narembeen · 21 June 2020, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by athom

sorry but this quality of work is SH*T

Yes, thats not a great example is it?

tekno · 22 June 2020, 05:40 AM

How about this:

I don’t know who else can refinish the dial, but I think he can handle it.

FrenchBigCrown · 22 June 2020, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tekno

How about this:

Not for me, mon ami.

Judge · 22 June 2020, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thuilln

In this coronavirus world, I’d recommend you wash your hands first. Then focus on taking better pics.

Wow, you Sir have no class. Shame on you Thuilln.

narembeen · 22 June 2020, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FrenchBigCrown

Not for me, mon ami.

I can see why you would say that. In my instance however, I am not selling this and it would be nice to have the dial in a functional state. So in my case, this sort of restoration is not as great a sin as it also a way to get it back to a state in which my father in law last used it. (Although I think he tried to tinker with this watch and left it half done - oh well)

B.F. Pigeon · 22 June 2020, 05:02 PM

Great thread, very curious on the outcome!

athom · 22 June 2020, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by narembeen

Yes, thats not a great example is it?

First I'd find the hands, then I'd write James Hyman and ask to repare the dial, the closest than its original state and in order that the handset fits to the colour of the lume!

narembeen · 10 July 2020, 10:46 AM

So a small update. I have side lined the plan to get the dial restored. I will park it for something I can do another time. My watch maker has located a dial which he says is correct for this watch. He mentioned something about the 1520 caliber movement (sorry not sure lost me a bit there). What do you guys think? It has a mark on it, but it looks ok. Is it real though? Does it match this watch?

I would have preferred to use my step dads dial but this will do for now.

Oh yeah so also, my watch maker is asking $1750USD for it, so around $2500 Aussie bucks.

Dan S · 10 July 2020, 11:14 AM

I wouldn’t. You already have a dial in need of restoration, why invest a lot of money in a second dial in mediocre condition (bad scratch, spotty lume). I would stick with the relume idea. James Hyman is the person, as mentioned above.

B.F. Pigeon · 10 July 2020, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan S

I wouldn’t. You already have a dial in need of restoration, why invest a lot of money in a second dial in mediocre condition (bad scratch, spotty lume). I would stick with the relume idea. James Hyman is the person, as mentioned above.

I agree with Dan. Also, with renovating the dial you have the original in your watch. Last but not least, postponement of (part of) a project is never a good thing; cast the iron while its hot!

Kingface66 · 10 July 2020, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

I wouldn’t. You already have a dial in need of restoration, why invest a lot of money in a second dial in mediocre condition (bad scratch, spotty lume). I would stick with the relume idea. James Hyman is the person, as mentioned above.

Agree with Dan. If the watch is a 1,2XX,XXX serial number, a matte dial isn't even correct for it anyway. And that scratch is pretty rough. It will always jump out every time you look at it. Getting the original dial straightened out seems like a great course of action

narembeen · 10 July 2020, 11:29 AM

ok cool, thanks guys, I just wanted to sound this one off with the experts here and it only took a few minutes! I will let my watch maker know I want to stick to the original plan.

Verdi · 10 July 2020, 04:23 PM

Stick to the original dial. Its also cheaper I think. Just find the right people to professionally restore it.

narembeen · 19 July 2020, 01:34 PM

OK, a bit of activity now, dial is on its way back next week so I can ship it to HK. I will take some close ups front and back before I post and some when it returns.

SunTzu · 20 July 2020, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by narembeen

OK, a bit of activity now, dial is on its way back next week so I can ship it to HK. I will take some close ups front and back before I post and some when it returns.

You're KILLING me with the teasers!

narembeen · 20 July 2020, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SunTzu

You're KILLING me with the teasers!

Believe me, I wish this process was faster. With covid 19 and slow shipping etc, its taking ages. I still have to post the dial to HK and then wait 8-12 weeks for the restoration. Then return shipping. This wont be done until the end of the year I'd say.

Still, it will be worth the wait.

airansun · 21 July 2020, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by narembeen

Still, it will be worth the wait.

Oh, yeah!

lhendrickson · 25 July 2020, 12:11 PM

This thread is super juicy. Stoked to hear how the restoration of the dial goes. I appreciate the thought and consideration of OP with this whole thing. All of the helpful commenters are rad, too!

El Cascarrabias · 25 July 2020, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thuilln

. . . I’d recommend you wash your hands first . . .

HA!

Tell that to Jocke!

narembeen · 25 July 2020, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lhendrickson

This thread is super juicy. Stoked to hear how the restoration of the dial goes. I appreciate the thought and consideration of OP with this whole thing. All of the helpful commenters are rad, too!

Cheers! Update - the dial restoration will take only 4-6 weeks depending on the complexity. Also, I asked again, that no exisiting paint is to be removed and I have been assured for the fourth time (lol) this will not happen. So I am super excited to see how well this turns out.

996marty · 25 July 2020, 03:18 PM

Interesting thread I’m looking forward to the finished article plus it’s great to see how bad these watches get and can be salvaged and made good again

20 June 2020, 01:56 PM	#154
andrewjb88 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: United Kingdom Watch: 16302 Rolex OP Posts: 750	Really looking forward to seeing the results with this one! love stories like this. Wear it in good health when you get it back. __________________ Rolex Datejust 16203 Omega Seamaster Professional 300m Tudor BB GMT Luch one hand

22 June 2020, 05:40 AM	#161
tekno 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas Watch: Tudor Snowflake Posts: 1,042	Step fathers 5513 How about this: I don’t know who else can refinish the dial, but I think he can handle it.

10 July 2020, 11:14 AM	#168
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,894	I wouldn’t. You already have a dial in need of restoration, why invest a lot of money in a second dial in mediocre condition (bad scratch, spotty lume). I would stick with the relume idea. James Hyman is the person, as mentioned above. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

10 July 2020, 04:23 PM	#172
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	Stick to the original dial. Its also cheaper I think. Just find the right people to professionally restore it. __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

19 June 2020, 08:37 PM	#152
FrenchBigCrown "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: France Posts: 1,076	If you want the very best refinished dial - then you'll need to seek out 'Ivan The Dark Lord'. The problem is, he's expensive - and a bit of a 'Banksy'* character and difficult to contact. Do a google search for "Rolex Ivan The Dark Lord". Or try over on https://rwg.cc/ (I hope it's OK to post this link - if not, Mods, please remove with my apologies.) Good luck, whatever you decide. *Banksy is an 'anonymous' British street artist for those who may not know.

21 June 2020, 06:00 PM	#157
tekno 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas Watch: Tudor Snowflake Posts: 1,042	Have Classic fix it in HK Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

22 June 2020, 05:02 PM	#165
B.F. Pigeon "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Real Name: Bill Location: S.E. Asia Posts: 129	Great thread, very curious on the outcome!

10 July 2020, 11:29 AM	#171
narembeen Banned Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Western Australia Posts: 386	ok cool, thanks guys, I just wanted to sound this one off with the experts here and it only took a few minutes! I will let my watch maker know I want to stick to the original plan.

19 July 2020, 01:34 PM	#173
narembeen Banned Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Western Australia Posts: 386	OK, a bit of activity now, dial is on its way back next week so I can ship it to HK. I will take some close ups front and back before I post and some when it returns.

25 July 2020, 12:11 PM	#177
lhendrickson "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Real Name: Luke Location: San Francisco Watch: 1972 ref. 1601 Posts: 126	This thread is super juicy. Stoked to hear how the restoration of the dial goes. I appreciate the thought and consideration of OP with this whole thing. All of the helpful commenters are rad, too!

25 July 2020, 03:18 PM	#180
996marty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Uk Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928 Posts: 2,595	Interesting thread I’m looking forward to the finished article plus it’s great to see how bad these watches get and can be salvaged and made good again

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