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lilrascal · 5 June 2016, 01:43 AM

A friend from work decided he wants to buy a used Explorer II from "a guy he knows". I have unsuccessfully tried to point him to the forum and some of it's trusted sellers. I at least got him to send me a picture. I am too new to Rolexes to comment on authenticity, but was wondering if I could get some of your input.

watchamatic · 5 June 2016, 01:47 AM

Looks authentic to me.

GradyPhilpott · 5 June 2016, 01:49 AM

I have my reservations about that piece.

I'm not an expert, however.

Sent from my SM-G900V

lilrascal · 5 June 2016, 02:44 AM

Thanks. Hopefully some others will be able to chime in.

michael067 · 5 June 2016, 03:11 AM

Don't look right, cyclops looks off

GLADIATOR · 5 June 2016, 03:21 AM

I believe its genuine
Adam

tommy91 · 5 June 2016, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

I believe its genuine
Adam

I would agree with this

lilrascal · 5 June 2016, 06:47 AM

Thanks. I will point him to this thread. I wouldn't be comfortable, but on the other hand the consensus seems to be that it doesn't scream fake either.

GLADIATOR · 5 June 2016, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Thanks. I will point him to this thread. I wouldn't be comfortable, but on the other hand the consensus seems to be that it doesn't scream fake either.

Its genuine
A

crowncollection · 5 June 2016, 08:00 AM

It doesn't scream fake. That does not mean all components are authentic either one photo is not enough. Take pics of the hand stack, band markings and crown thanks

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GLADIATOR · 5 June 2016, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

It doesn't scream fake. That does not mean all components are authentic either one photo is not enough. Take pics of the hand stack, band markings and crown thanks

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Hi
HS is correct
adam

Knappo 1307 · 5 June 2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

It doesn't scream fake. That does not mean all components are authentic either one photo is not enough. Take pics of the hand stack, band markings and crown thanks

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Totally agree with David.. No one is better at this than him, no one.....

Watchurself · 5 June 2016, 11:02 AM

I don't like this one to be honest, what's up with hands and lume plots not matching?

droptopman · 5 June 2016, 11:10 AM

HS looks ok, but a couple things seem a little odd. May just be the lighting. More pics would be useful.

lilrascal · 5 June 2016, 11:42 AM

I don't have any more pics as I posted it for a friend. I pointed him to this thread so hopefully he will see it is probably not worth the risk. Perhaps he will join the forum and post more pics if truly insistent on going through with this purchase.

iliketime · 5 June 2016, 12:04 PM

something looks off to me...

Old Expat Beast · 5 June 2016, 12:04 PM

Notice how the minute markers are fully exposed around the upper edge but not around the lower edge. Looks like the dial has slipped.

Watchurself · 5 June 2016, 01:22 PM

Furthermore, I don't like the font in the date window or the band..but more pics are needed to make a complete judgement.

tommy91 · 5 June 2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Notice how the minute markers are fully exposed around the upper edge but not around the lower edge. Looks like the dial has slipped.

Now you mention it yes, i can't see how it could slip that much as the Swiss made looks relatively good positioning. The font in the date does look over prominent but could be the picture.

beshannon · 5 June 2016, 08:38 PM

Impossible to tell much from that one image.

strafer_kid · 5 June 2016, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by michael067

Don't look right, cyclops looks off

Is that not fairly common?

michael067 · 6 June 2016, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by strafer_kid

Is that not fairly common?

Not that I've noticed.

Tony64 · 6 June 2016, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Notice how the minute markers are fully exposed around the upper edge but not around the lower edge. Looks like the dial has slipped.

I know very little about authenticating Rolex, but the date font does seem a little thicker than what I've seen, and if the dial has slipped shouldn't the date be off center as well?

droptopman · 6 June 2016, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Notice how the minute markers are fully exposed around the upper edge but not around the lower edge. Looks like the dial has slipped.

Great observation. That would explain the date window looking off to me. Although it looks too high not to low???

tommy91 · 6 June 2016, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony64

I know very little about authenticating Rolex, but the date font does seem a little thicker than what I've seen, and if the dial has slipped shouldn't the date be off center as well?

The dial slipping wouldn't have any affect on the date. Who knows what is going on with this explorer 2, something isnt correct though and that's enough to stay away from it

Tony64 · 6 June 2016, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tommy91

The dial slipping wouldn't have any affect on the date. Who knows what is going on with this explorer 2, something isnt correct though and that's enough to stay away from it

So the date wheel would slip along with the dial?

GLADIATOR · 6 June 2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony64

So the date wheel would slip along with the dial?

Absolutely
The mechanism is one piece
A

freefly · 6 June 2016, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I have my reservations about that piece.

+1.

Several red flags here. Tell your friend to pass on this one.

lilrascal · 6 June 2016, 10:30 AM

Thanks, my friend wouldn't listen to my advice, but after reading this thread is listening to you guys. He decided to pass on this one. Hopefully now that he knows about this forum he will browse the classifieds and purchase from a trusted seller. Thanks for the help!

michael067 · 6 June 2016, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Thanks, my friend wouldn't listen to my advice, but after reading this thread is listening to you guys. He decided to pass on this one. Hopefully now that he knows about this forum he will browse the classifieds and purchase from a trusted seller. Thanks for the help!

5 June 2016, 01:49 AM	#3
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5 June 2016, 08:00 AM	#10
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	It doesn't scream fake. That does not mean all components are authentic either one photo is not enough. Take pics of the hand stack, band markings and crown thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

5 June 2016, 11:10 AM	#14
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5 June 2016, 01:47 AM	#2
watchamatic "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Asia Posts: 306	Looks authentic to me.

5 June 2016, 02:44 AM	#4
lilrascal "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: WI, USA Posts: 29	Thanks. Hopefully some others will be able to chime in.

5 June 2016, 03:11 AM	#5
michael067 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mike Location: Las Vegas Watch: TT DJ 16233 Posts: 1,002	Don't look right, cyclops looks off

5 June 2016, 03:21 AM	#6
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	I believe its genuine Adam

5 June 2016, 06:47 AM	#8
lilrascal "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: WI, USA Posts: 29	Thanks. I will point him to this thread. I wouldn't be comfortable, but on the other hand the consensus seems to be that it doesn't scream fake either.

5 June 2016, 11:02 AM	#13
Watchurself "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 340	I don't like this one to be honest, what's up with hands and lume plots not matching?

5 June 2016, 11:42 AM	#15
lilrascal "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: WI, USA Posts: 29	I don't have any more pics as I posted it for a friend. I pointed him to this thread so hopefully he will see it is probably not worth the risk. Perhaps he will join the forum and post more pics if truly insistent on going through with this purchase.

5 June 2016, 12:04 PM	#16
iliketime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Jack Location: NYC Watch: 16570, 16710 Posts: 1,534	something looks off to me...

5 June 2016, 12:04 PM	#17
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,362	Notice how the minute markers are fully exposed around the upper edge but not around the lower edge. Looks like the dial has slipped.

5 June 2016, 01:22 PM	#18
Watchurself "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 340	Furthermore, I don't like the font in the date window or the band..but more pics are needed to make a complete judgement.

6 June 2016, 10:30 AM	#29
lilrascal "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: WI, USA Posts: 29	Thanks, my friend wouldn't listen to my advice, but after reading this thread is listening to you guys. He decided to pass on this one. Hopefully now that he knows about this forum he will browse the classifieds and purchase from a trusted seller. Thanks for the help!

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