New Sports Models from B&R: Looks Familiar?

[danicasi2002]

Strolling down the street here in Lyon and spotted this Ad board for a new boutique. On the board is the new BR05 men’s 40 mm collection announced just a few days ago. Metal bezel: brushed on the top and shiny polish on the side, 4 screws. Brushed lines follow nicely from the bezel to the case to the bracelet. Bracelet design reminds you of the PP nautilus. Dials for the SS model range from black, grey to blue (same as 15500st, obviously not with the tapisserie pattern). RG model comes with a black dial. Unique transparent caseback. It comes with a 42h reserve Selitta movt and not unexpectedly >4x lower in price as the 15500. The case design of the BR05 simply attests to the broad popularity of the Royal Oak. Figured you all might fancy reading more on this esp from the B&R website.

[nick c]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.ablo...ion-debut/amp/

[danicasi2002]

Oh yeah. Reading the article, there is also the skeleton model in SS which is a reasonable 1400 euro more expensive than the base model. They all could be fitted with the alternative rubber strap.

[othertbone]

Originally Posted by danicasi2002

Strolling down the street here in Lyon and spotted this Ad board for a new boutique. On the board is the new BR05 men’s 40 mm collection announced just a few days ago. Metal bezel: brushed on the top and shiny polish on the side, 4 screws. Brushed lines follow nicely from the bezel to the case to the bracelet. Bracelet design reminds you of the PP nautilus. Dials for the SS model range from black, grey to blue (same as 15500st, obviously not with the tapisserie pattern). RG model comes with a black dial. Unique transparent caseback. It comes with a 42h reserve Selitta movt and not unexpectedly >4x lower in price as the 15500. The case design of the BR05 simply attests to the broad popularity of the Royal Oak. Figured you all might fancy reading more on this esp from the B&R website.

Looks like a Nautilus had sex with a Panerai and an Explorer!!

[nick c]

Originally Posted by othertbone

Looks like a Nautilus had sex with a Panerai and an Explorer!!

[benlee]

Another #metoo design trying to capitalize on the Nautilus / RO craze and not a good one at that. Pass

[danicasi2002]

Originally Posted by benlee

Another #metoo design trying to capitalize on the Nautilus / RO craze and not a good one at that. Pass

Not familiar with other attempts by notable manufacturers to imitate the Genta design of Nautilus and RO. Curious to know what have been the recent ones? thanks.

[RolexZen]

Seems okay to me. Still retains the B&R DNA, with the best hints of a variety of luxury designs, and a profitable market to tap into. The bracelet may actually be better than the Nautilus bracelet in some ways.

I’m not particularly interested in wearing the aviation gauge looks of B&R watches , but still find them kinda cool. IF I was into the look, I think I’d be all over this one.

[danicasi2002]

Originally Posted by RolexZen

Seems okay to me. Still retains the B&R DNA, with the best hints of a variety of luxury designs, and a profitable market to tap into. The bracelet may actually be better than the Nautilus bracelet in some ways.

I’m not particularly interested in wearing the aviation gauge looks of B&R watches , but still find them kinda cool. IF I was into the look, I think I’d be all over this one.

It is a rather clean and simple design. I personally am not into square cases (or rectangular ones like the Apple Watch), but compared to other B&R models, the corners of the BR05 are more rounded and with the bracelet tapering from the near full width of the case, it softens the case edges even more. Will see if sales pick up for B&R on this model line.

[andrewjoo7]

Originally Posted by danicasi2002

Not familiar with other attempts by notable manufacturers to imitate the Genta design of Nautilus and RO. Curious to know what have been the recent ones? thanks.

The Bvlgari octo finissimo looks like they got inspiration from the RO

[myporsche]

Relax gents, not every angular non circle watch is a ripoff of RO, Naut, or Genta.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by danicasi2002

Not familiar with other attempts by notable manufacturers to imitate the Genta design of Nautilus and RO. Curious to know what have been the recent ones? thanks.

Girard-Perregaux is probably the only respectable one but they aren't recent and actually have history

[danicasi2002]

Originally Posted by andrewjoo7

The Bvlgari octo finissimo looks like they got inspiration from the RO

thanks. BTW - The GMT chrono finissimo looks fantastic. Thin movt, chrono and a GMT which is useful for a frequent traveler.

[manilenyo]

Originally Posted by danicasi2002

Not familiar with other attempts by notable manufacturers to imitate the Genta design of Nautilus and RO. Curious to know what have been the recent ones? thanks.

The G.O. Seventies...


And the blue dial on leather straps..

[myporsche]

Originally Posted by manilenyo

The G.O. Seventies...


And the blue dial on leather straps..

That's not an imitation, very original design actually, every non circular watch is not a RO/Genta ripoff.

[trfChris]

Why is this in the AP section? No one is going to mistake that for a RO, lol. If I were to get a BR I would probably go for a BR01 or BR03, seems to have more of their brand DNA.

[danicasi2002]

Originally Posted by othertbone

Looks like a Nautilus had sex with a Panerai and an Explorer!!

Imaginative!

[jag32]

Originally Posted by andrewjoo7

The Bvlgari octo finissimo looks like they got inspiration from the RO

Genta designed almost the entire Bulgari line and Bulgari actually bought Genta own company. It is not inspired from the RO at all.

[danicasi2002]

Originally Posted by jag32

Genta designed almost the entire Bulgari line and Bulgari actually bought Genta own company. It is not inspired from the RO at all.

Wow. I was not aware of that history between Bulgari and Genta. Thanks. It explains some of the common novel features like the retrograde date display seen in certain Octo models and other Genta watches. He's the man!! Without him, we would not have the RO to enjoy.

[jag32]

Originally Posted by danicasi2002

Wow. I was not aware of that history between Bulgari and Genta. Thanks. It explains some of the common novel features like the retrograde date display seen in certain Octo models and other Genta watches. He's the man!! Without him, we would not have the RO to enjoy.

Yup. Bulgari is a real brand you can trust with more Genta DNA than AP and PP, who just have one Genta design each.
—-
Gerald Genta's clients have included professional athletes, business executives, rock musicians, rappers, movie stars, politicians as well as royalty, including Prince Rainier of Monaco, King Hassan II of Morocco, King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia of Spain, King Fahd of Saudi Arabia and Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother of England.[7]

After his eponymous company, trade marks, patents and designs were acquired by Bulgari in 2000, Genta resigned and created a new venture called Gerald Charles. As of 2010, Gerald Genta watches were marketed solely under the Bulgari brand. As Bulgari had been acquired by upscale French conglomerate LVMH in 2011, all "Gerald Genta" brand watches would in effect be products of the LVMH portfolio. In 2019, Bulgari celebrated the 50th Anniversary of the Gerald Genta mark with the launch of a new Gerald Genta watch[8].

Genta died in August 2011 at age 80.[9]

[jag32]

In June 2000, the Bulgari Group acquired 100% of Gérald Genta S.A., Daniel Roth S.A., Swiss leaders in high-end watch making, and Manufacture de Haute Horlogerie S.A., the owner of the related manufacturing facilities. This acquisition gave rise to a new company named Daniel Roth et Gérald Genta Haute Horlogerie S.A. The Bulgari watches are for both men and women and are distinguished by a creative and contemporary style characteristic of all Bulgari creations. The timepieces are created according to the most rigorous Swiss watch-making quality criteria.

The commitment of Bulgari in the vertical integration strategy went on in 2005 with the acquisition of a 50% stake in Cadrans Designs S.A., a Swiss company leader in the creation and production of sophisticated and avant-garde dials for complicated and high-end watches of the most prestigious international watch-making brands. Following this, in October 2005, Bulgari also acquired a 51% stake of the Swiss firm Prestige D’Or S.A., leader in the production of steel and precious metals watch straps for high end watches. Both the acquisitions have been completed at 100% in 2009.

Two years later Bulgari acquired 100% of Finger S.A, a Swiss company specialized in the creation and production of sophisticated cases for complicated and high-end watches of the most prestigious international watch-making brands. Always in 2007 Bulgari signed an agreement with Leschot S.A. for the purchase of machineries and intellectual properties in order to support the future internal development of a new movement de manufacture.

As a fruit of a rational and organic evolution aiming to advance in the sector of watch excellence and, in particular, in the high-end and grandes complications segment, in 2010 the Gérald Genta and Daniel Roth collections have become part of the watch assortment under the Bulgari brand. The merge of the cutting-edge skills of the Gérald Genta and Daniel Roth Manufacture in Le Sentier with the prestigious image of Bulgari is embodied in new watch creations, where the Bulgari brand is featured along with the Gérald Genta and Daniel Roth logos, while preserving the technical and aesthetic qualities of the two Swiss brands.

[jag32]

https://www.watchcollectinglifestyle...iversary-watch

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by jag32

Genta designed almost the entire Bulgari line and Bulgari actually bought Genta own company. It is not inspired from the RO at all.

As I explained in a Bvlgari thread recently, Genta was no longer involved with his own brand company once he sold it to Hour Glass, who subsequently sold it to LVMH within 18 months.
Apart from the infamous Roma watch with Bvlgari Blvgari on the bezel, that’s all Gerald Genta did for them.
The Octa range, launched in 2004 with Genta co-branding on the dial, were designed internally in Italy, inspired by Genta’s octagonal cased Grande Sonnerie Tourbillon, which he’d created in 1994.

[andrewjoo7]

Originally Posted by jag32

Genta designed almost the entire Bulgari line and Bulgari actually bought Genta own company. It is not inspired from the RO at all.

well, if Genta designed it, you cant conclude that it is not inspired from the RO at all.

[andrewjoo7]

this Seiko is from Genta also

https://www.watchprosite.com/seiko/d...30073.6418838/

[andrewjoo7]

Originally Posted by huncho

Girard-Perregaux is probably the only respectable one but they aren't recent and actually have history

that's a total ripoff. The dial says it all