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SemperFi · 2 July 2020, 08:45 AM

So today a new Black Bay 58 was introduced with a blue dial and blue bezel, MSRP $3,700.
I contacted a “trusted seller”. Price, $5,300.
Really, what gives? And this is nothing new. It’s been going on for awhile now. I understand supply and demand but now the bargains are at the AD’s where you usually pay MSRP.
Somebody please explain.

Cru Jones · 2 July 2020, 08:48 AM

New release. Limited supply. Cashing in on the “I want it now” crowd.

Give it a little time and I’m sure you’ll find the price you want.

FTX I · 2 July 2020, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cru jones

new release. Limited supply. Cashing in on the “i want it now” crowd.

Give it a little time and i’m sure you’ll find the price you want.

+1

brandrea · 2 July 2020, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cru jones

new release. Limited supply. Cashing in on the “i want it now” crowd.

Give it a little time and i’m sure you’ll find the price you want.

x 2

Chewbacca · 2 July 2020, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cru jones

new release. Limited supply. Cashing in on the “i want it now” crowd.

Give it a little time and i’m sure you’ll find the price you want.

x69

SemperFi · 2 July 2020, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

New release. Limited supply. Cashing in on the “I want it now” crowd.

Give it a little time and I’m sure you’ll find the price you want.

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Originally Posted by FTX I

+1

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Originally Posted by brandrea

x 2

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca

x69

Why would anyone buy from a Gray dealer now?
They get their stock from AD’s right? Seems like everything got reversed.

Chewbacca · 2 July 2020, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

Why would anyone buy from a Gray dealer now?
They get their stock from AD’s right? Seems like everything got reversed.

The embedded cost of endorphins and beating the Joneses is strong.

Wait 6mo and ask the Grey what the trade in value is; make sure you’re sitting down.

SemperFi · 2 July 2020, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca

The embedded cost of endorphins and beating the Joneses is strong.

Wait 6mo and ask the Grey what the trade in value is; make sure you’re sitting down.

I’m a patient guy. Paying over MSRP for anything is a deal breaker.

pain888 · 2 July 2020, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

So today a new Black Bay 58 was introduced with a blue dial and blue bezel, MSRP $3,700.
I contacted a “trusted seller”. Price, $5,300.
Really, what gives? And this is nothing new. It’s been going on for awhile now. I understand supply and demand but now the bargains are at the AD’s where you usually pay MSRP.
Somebody please explain.

You should know the game by now....

SemperFi · 2 July 2020, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pain888

You should know the game by now....

Oh, I do Tony. It’s not out of ignorance that I asked the question because I really do understand. I guess my question should’ve been why would anyone pay almost 45% over MSRP.

pain888 · 2 July 2020, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

Oh, I do Tony. It’s not out of ignorance that I asked the question because I really do understand. I guess my question should’ve been why would anyone pay almost 45% over MSRP.

Let me know if you need help to pull some strings..

SemperFi · 2 July 2020, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pain888

Let me know if you need help to pull some strings..

Thanks Tony.

I still have your number.

Fleetlord · 2 July 2020, 10:36 AM

It will be sold by the weekend...

Or it won’t be.

That will tell how strong the piece is in the market.

I’m meh on it. Not a big release for me..

cop414 · 2 July 2020, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

I’m a patient guy. Paying over MSRP for anything is a deal breaker.

Beware of the patient man Ang!

Random photoshop of you and I just because...

Floorguy · 2 July 2020, 10:46 AM

Heeey Tim, I never knew Ang. Was such a looker!!

RyanJ · 2 July 2020, 10:47 AM

Interesting how we berate flippers but we're totally fine with it if a trusted seller does the exact same thing.

Both are just capitalizing on the moment and making as much as they can from those willing to pay it.

SemperFi · 2 July 2020, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cop414

Beware of the patient man Ang!

Random photoshop of you and I just because...

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Originally Posted by Floorguy

Heeey Tim, I never knew Ang. Was such a looker!!

Haha.
Next time Timmo, you be the girl.

Etschell · 2 July 2020, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

So today a new Black Bay 58 was introduced with a blue dial and blue bezel, MSRP $3,700.
I contacted a “trusted seller”. Price, $5,300.
Really, what gives? And this is nothing new. It’s been going on for awhile now. I understand supply and demand but now the bargains are at the AD’s where you usually pay MSRP.
Somebody please explain.

Ive bought all tudors at discounts and they are all worth less than that. I would pay msrp but no more for this model. I am seeking one but will need to be patient at this point.

SemperFi · 2 July 2020, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

Ive bought all tudors at discounts and they are all worth less than that. I would pay msrp but no more for this model. I am seeking one but will need to be patient at this point.

Agreed

RichM · 2 July 2020, 11:32 AM

I feel your pain Angelo. The sad thing is someone will pay it, or close to it, just to say they have it.

I’m really glad I’m not in the market for anything these days.

Bigblu10 · 2 July 2020, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Mickol

I feel your pain Angelo. The sad thing is someone will pay it, or close to it, just to say they have it.

I’m really glad I’m not in the market for anything these days.

Ditto. The watch market is madness now. Count me out.

subtona · 2 July 2020, 11:40 AM

As always the choice is if to play or not.

Texex · 2 July 2020, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cop414

Beware of the patient man Ang!

Random photoshop of you and I just because...

I can never unsee this!

Laszlo · 2 July 2020, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca

The embedded cost of endorphins and beating the Joneses is strong.

Wait 6mo and ask the Grey what the trade in value is; make sure you’re sitting down.

Totally

watchmework · 2 July 2020, 12:50 PM

I saw this as well...I think a lot of it is these “collectors” on Instagram want to be one of the first people to post a wrist shot with it...it’s borderline hilarious to see each of them comment how they will have theirs soon or it’s on the way. There is a clear pissing match I’m afraid but it’s fun to watch.

cop414 · 2 July 2020, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Floorguy

Heeey Tim, I never knew Ang. Was such a looker!!

Heyyy my brother to the south

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

Haha.
Next time Timmo, you be the girl.

Be careful what you wish for Angeloney!

gnuyork · 2 July 2020, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanJ

Interesting how we berate flippers but we're totally fine with it if a trusted seller does the exact same thing.

Both are just capitalizing on the moment and making as much as they can from those willing to pay it.

Right?

Fleetlord · 2 July 2020, 10:26 PM

It sold. At this point, market agrees with the pricing...

Sure it will come down as more become available.

Geckobros · 3 July 2020, 02:20 AM

But... it’s blue.

JohnnyM · 3 July 2020, 02:44 AM

I hear you, especially for a Tudor.

People go crazy for colors I guess. Look at the batman. Slap half the bezel insert with blue and the price goes way up.

2 July 2020, 08:45 AM	#1
SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	I Really Don’t Understand So today a new Black Bay 58 was introduced with a blue dial and blue bezel, MSRP $3,700. I contacted a “trusted seller”. Price, $5,300. Really, what gives? And this is nothing new. It’s been going on for awhile now. I understand supply and demand but now the bargains are at the AD’s where you usually pay MSRP. Somebody please explain. __________________ Rolex Submariner Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue Tudor Ranger 79910 Nomos Club Datum 733 Nomos Metro 38 Stowa Flieger Classic 40 * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

2 July 2020, 10:46 AM	#15
Floorguy 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Rob Location: Parrish fl. Watch: Tt datejust 16233 Posts: 20,947	Heeey Tim, I never knew Ang. Was such a looker!! __________________ Rolex Omega Tag Heuer

2 July 2020, 11:32 AM	#20
RichM 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 28,208	I feel your pain Angelo. The sad thing is someone will pay it, or close to it, just to say they have it. I’m really glad I’m not in the market for anything these days. __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

2 July 2020, 11:40 AM	#22
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,997	As always the choice is if to play or not. __________________

2 July 2020, 08:48 AM	#2
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,499	New release. Limited supply. Cashing in on the “I want it now” crowd. Give it a little time and I’m sure you’ll find the price you want.

2 July 2020, 10:36 AM	#13
Fleetlord "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 5,920	It will be sold by the weekend... Or it won’t be. That will tell how strong the piece is in the market. I’m meh on it. Not a big release for me..

2 July 2020, 10:47 AM	#16
RyanJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Atlantis Posts: 1,432	Interesting how we berate flippers but we're totally fine with it if a trusted seller does the exact same thing. Both are just capitalizing on the moment and making as much as they can from those willing to pay it.

2 July 2020, 12:50 PM	#25
watchmework "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: DC Watch: 126710BLRO, 116600 Posts: 7,869	I saw this as well...I think a lot of it is these “collectors” on Instagram want to be one of the first people to post a wrist shot with it...it’s borderline hilarious to see each of them comment how they will have theirs soon or it’s on the way. There is a clear pissing match I’m afraid but it’s fun to watch.

2 July 2020, 10:26 PM	#28
Fleetlord "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 5,920	It sold. At this point, market agrees with the pricing... Sure it will come down as more become available.

3 July 2020, 02:20 AM	#29
Geckobros "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Arrakis Posts: 873	But... it’s blue.

3 July 2020, 02:44 AM	#30
JohnnyM Banned Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Merica Watch: All the good ones Posts: 173	I hear you, especially for a Tudor. People go crazy for colors I guess. Look at the batman. Slap half the bezel insert with blue and the price goes way up.

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