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rambo99 · 21 January 2019, 03:32 PM

think it would hurt the resale value of rolex's 5-digit or even 6-digit subs if the tudor sub is really released and in the 4000usd price range.

AFlint · 21 January 2019, 03:35 PM

I would be down for a re-imagined Tudor Sub!

jps3b · 21 January 2019, 05:58 PM

Let’s not get crazy. We need to remember, Tudor and Rolex are completely different products and are purchased by a completely different buyer. Yes, there will be a crossover here and there like myself who purchased a blue Pelagos. As much as I loved it, I traded it months later for a WG Submariner. The Tudor Submariner is a thing of the past and that’s where it will remain. The brand finally got its buying power back, what, 5-7 years ago. They weren’t even being sold in the U.S. With its current line up and rebranding I doubt Rolex Corp is going to do anything to hurt the brand, and IMO a Tudor Submariner would hurt the brand. And furthermore, we all know Rolex doesn’t make big announcements. This would be very uncharacteristic of a brand who takes baby steps when changing even the color of some font. As much as I would like the Tudor fans happy this year at Basel, I really doubt we will see a Submariner from this strengthening brand. Sorry to be such a downer fellas...

jps3b · 21 January 2019, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rambo99

think it would hurt the resale value of rolex's 5-digit or even 6-digit subs if the tudor sub is really released and in the 4000usd price range.

I think this is a question. If so, I don’t think it will take one penny from the 5 digit or current reference Submariner. I have a colleague who wants a 16610 very badly. After divorce and kids in college he’s still waiting to buy one. I’ve told him of very good options instead of a five digit Submariner, but he wants a Rolex. I feel many are in the same situation. Tudor is having great success, but it will always be missing what it’s missing, and that is the Rolex name on the dial.

derrylzaradi · 21 January 2019, 06:16 PM

Well that’s cool

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Rashid.bk · 21 January 2019, 06:23 PM

hmmmm, very interested.

Rashid.bk · 21 January 2019, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rambo99

think it would hurt the resale value of rolex's 5-digit or even 6-digit subs if the tudor sub is really released and in the 4000usd price range.

Won't do didly squat for resale. The vintage market is strong enough to survive a nuclear fallout on earth. There is a finite number of vintage in a very finite level of condition. In fact, when you look across all brands, I can't remember any vintage resale that was affected by a rerelease. The Tudor Pepsi is a fine example, the only defining difference between a 16710 is the snowflake hands.
Look at 16710 vintage sales post 2018 with two new GMTs.

Michael N Q8 · 21 January 2019, 06:44 PM

Soooo, onto another "waiting list".

I have a serious case of waiting list fatigue, but I have significantly lower expectations nowadays.

Ichiran · 21 January 2019, 06:51 PM

This means it's likely for Rolex to have a new sub too!

rambo99 · 21 January 2019, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

This means it's likely for Rolex to have a new sub too!

good! may be that's why the shortage on current sub.

JP. · 21 January 2019, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Won't do didly squat for resale. The vintage market is strong enough to survive a nuclear fallout on earth.

I agree.

If they remake the classic Tudor Sub and sell it for $3K it will sell well, that's for sure. But it's still not a Rolex. Tudor might be well respected among us, the collectors and other WIS, but for the general public it's completely obscure brand.

There are a lot of people who buy Rolex mainly because of its reputation and brand name. Tudor is a ZERO threat to Rolex sales... vintage or modern, imho.

Ace-columbus · 21 January 2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CPRWATCH

I can see it now ,

Thats gorgeous !

A relaunche would be great!

mailman · 21 January 2019, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chris975d

I think this shows it has to be a Tudor sub. That video is an official Tudor video for 2019, and freezing the video at the 14 second mark (all said in your TZ.uk post) clearly shows a Tudor sub.

Here:

And this aligns almost perfectly with the Tudor Instagram teaser.

I know this is a prototype but it's much nicer looking than a 114060 or 116610.

AK797 · 21 January 2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rambo99

think it would hurt the resale value of rolex's 5-digit or even 6-digit subs if the tudor sub is really released and in the 4000usd price range.

If it is a blue Sub I think they can ask for more than this.

Onikage · 21 January 2019, 10:00 PM

I wondered how long it would be left to BS micro brands - Ginault Ocean Rover etc. Some are ripping off the latest steel slabs but still. It's been a disgrace as the demand for pre maxified affairs is obviously there. About time Imo.

Reinhard in SA · 21 January 2019, 10:14 PM

Can't wait for Basel! Would love to get one.

amh · 21 January 2019, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reinhard in SA

Can't wait for Basel! Would love to get one.

Same here, if it comes true. But I don't think it will.

Watch Explorer · 21 January 2019, 10:45 PM

I would be disappointed if it doesn't happen now, with these teases in the last few months.

1William · 21 January 2019, 10:55 PM

Tudor will do something interesting at Basel 19 and this could be it. I don't see how it could miss.

Eastwind1127 · 21 January 2019, 10:57 PM

Last year BLRO was rolex highlight. Along side the big brother, tudor launched their GMTs.

This year, Tudor hints at their new sub... so Rolex new Sub? A man can dream.

Reinhard in SA · 22 January 2019, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by amh

Same here, if it comes true. But I don't think it will.

I know it is highly unlikely, but I have a feeling this is going to happen. I will message an AD or two before Basel just to put my name down, no way I will miss out on this. I have a 90's Tudor Submariner and it has quickly become my favourite watch. I would be all over a modern iteration. Fingers crossed!

jets · 22 January 2019, 12:15 AM

Please just no snowflake hands...

genta · 22 January 2019, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scholar

Return of the matte dial! Here's hoping it isn't ruined by a Snowflake hand.

Ruined by Snowflake hands??? Not possible

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redfoxer · 22 January 2019, 12:18 AM

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Ruined by Snowflake hands??? Not possible

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Great photo!

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nick c · 22 January 2019, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jets

Please just no snowflake hands...

This what Tudor does best. Snowflake hands

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stanc1 · 22 January 2019, 12:22 AM

Incredible Tudor.

tanask211 · 22 January 2019, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nick c

This what Tudor does best. Snowflake hands

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Cool watch. Too bad i didnt had a chance to get it.

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nick c · 22 January 2019, 12:41 AM

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Cool watch. Too bad i didnt had a chance to get it.

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you can still buy them, but the price are crazy.

SimonUK82 · 22 January 2019, 12:45 AM

I would be very excited if it came true.

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TurboTim14 · 22 January 2019, 01:07 AM

I wouldn't be opposed to the snow flake hands as long as the markers were square (which isn't likely given the teaser photo). My biggest gripe with the black bay line is the circular markers with the square snowflake hands. It doesn't match and I think it looks odd.

21 January 2019, 05:58 PM	#63
jps3b "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Santa Monica, Ca Watch: 116619 Posts: 1,334	Tudor hinting at new submariner? Let’s not get crazy. We need to remember, Tudor and Rolex are completely different products and are purchased by a completely different buyer. Yes, there will be a crossover here and there like myself who purchased a blue Pelagos. As much as I loved it, I traded it months later for a WG Submariner. The Tudor Submariner is a thing of the past and that’s where it will remain. The brand finally got its buying power back, what, 5-7 years ago. They weren’t even being sold in the U.S. With its current line up and rebranding I doubt Rolex Corp is going to do anything to hurt the brand, and IMO a Tudor Submariner would hurt the brand. And furthermore, we all know Rolex doesn’t make big announcements. This would be very uncharacteristic of a brand who takes baby steps when changing even the color of some font. As much as I would like the Tudor fans happy this year at Basel, I really doubt we will see a Submariner from this strengthening brand. Sorry to be such a downer fellas...

21 January 2019, 06:44 PM	#68
Michael N Q8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Michael Location: Kuwait Watch: Daytona SS White Posts: 494	Soooo, onto another "waiting list". I have a serious case of waiting list fatigue, but I have significantly lower expectations nowadays. __________________ 116520 Daytona white, 116500 Daytona black, 126600 SD, Speedmaster Pro, 116710BLNR GMT II, Speedmaster trilogy 57, Breitling Navitimer A23322, Seiko SKX007J, Seiko Mini turtle PADI, Seiko 5 Sport Diver.

21 January 2019, 10:00 PM	#75
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	I wondered how long it would be left to BS micro brands - Ginault Ocean Rover etc. Some are ripping off the latest steel slabs but still. It's been a disgrace as the demand for pre maxified affairs is obviously there. About time Imo. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

22 January 2019, 12:15 AM	#82
jets "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mario Location: CANADA Posts: 2,483	Please just no snowflake hands... __________________ ♛ DJII 116234 · Submariner 126610LV · Yacht Master 42 226659 ✿ Pelagos 25600TN Ω X-33 Speedmaster Skywalker · 1861 Speedmaster Modsukoshi · SMP 2254.50 · SMP 2230.50 NAC · Seamaster 300 166.0324 · Genève 162.037 Seiko SLA033 Willard · SKX007

21 January 2019, 03:32 PM	#61
rambo99 Banned Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tokyo Watch: SD43,PAM1616,Hulk Posts: 3,567	think it would hurt the resale value of rolex's 5-digit or even 6-digit subs if the tudor sub is really released and in the 4000usd price range.

21 January 2019, 03:35 PM	#62
AFlint "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: SoCal Posts: 31	I would be down for a re-imagined Tudor Sub!

21 January 2019, 06:16 PM	#65
derrylzaradi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Indonesia Posts: 24	Well that’s cool Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 January 2019, 06:23 PM	#66
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,172	hmmmm, very interested.

21 January 2019, 06:51 PM	#69
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,618	This means it's likely for Rolex to have a new sub too!

21 January 2019, 10:14 PM	#76
Reinhard in SA "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: South Africa Posts: 801	Can't wait for Basel! Would love to get one.

21 January 2019, 10:45 PM	#78
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	I would be disappointed if it doesn't happen now, with these teases in the last few months.

21 January 2019, 10:55 PM	#79
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,718	Tudor will do something interesting at Basel 19 and this could be it. I don't see how it could miss.

21 January 2019, 10:57 PM	#80
Eastwind1127 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Singapore Watch: 116610LV Posts: 3	Last year BLRO was rolex highlight. Along side the big brother, tudor launched their GMTs. This year, Tudor hints at their new sub... so Rolex new Sub? A man can dream.

22 January 2019, 12:22 AM	#86
stanc1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 144	Incredible Tudor.

22 January 2019, 12:45 AM	#89
SimonUK82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: North East - UK Posts: 99	I would be very excited if it came true. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 January 2019, 01:07 AM	#90
TurboTim14 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 267	I wouldn't be opposed to the snow flake hands as long as the markers were square (which isn't likely given the teaser photo). My biggest gripe with the black bay line is the circular markers with the square snowflake hands. It doesn't match and I think it looks odd.

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