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GMTfanatic · 10 January 2015, 04:48 AM

What the hell ... He was a quite engaged Instagram User and I even invited him in our Watches Facebook group and we commented on our pictures a lot!

I think the case with the fake watches with 16yo was a youth-sin, and maybe he was betrayed himself (and abviously too naive to check) with the Longines.

Mistakes on every side: 1. Seller (maybe) lied, 2. Buyer: Sayub: Too naive to check, 3. buyer: too naive too because he didn't checked immediately!!

So I hope every side is learning out of that case.

PJ S · 10 January 2015, 11:12 AM

Sorry GMTfanatic, but you're giving too much credence to ZSayub/iwally – the member who sold him the Longines isn't the sort to mislead anyone, and he even says he told him in one of the quoted comments I pasted up there.

At the end of the day, all this stemmed from an agreement to refund £30/CHF46/$50 in light of the difference in carat, and after chasing ZSayub for the refund, Baden posted the thread in TZ-UK's H&V (heroes and villains) feedback section, with a question mark.

Subsequent digging and revelations from other members uncovered the whole unsavoury truth about him, and things really got hot under the collar when it was found he is active on a replica forum(s).

Now if Dad is in the dental game (again), making crowns or dentures, etc, then he just might be helping out with his son's education at University, but it's unknown if his generosity extends to part payment of the real Rolex he bought from a member here.
After what has come to light, it's certainly open to conjecture that he's duped buyers elsewhere with fake Omegas, and it only takes a few successful cons to amass enough to buy a genuine Rolex or get Dad to go halvers with him.
Having a real one, and being able to point back to its purchase from here, gives him a smokescreen to hide behind when sending out replicas off the back of images of the real thing.
And that's not forgetting he nearly duped another member into swapping his PP for the replica AP.

Long story short.....don't shed any tears over his removal, since it was completely deserved and of his own making.

Igerswis · 11 January 2015, 01:51 AM

Just got a heads up that he's back on Instagram as @zsssa_4130

MonBK · 11 January 2015, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ally-

Didn't he attend the first London GTG a few years ago?

I think I recognize him?

Johny · 12 January 2015, 01:20 AM

what an embarrassment to his family.

Hairdude1 · 12 January 2015, 01:04 PM

He was active on IG, hope he has learned his lesson

GB-man · 12 January 2015, 01:57 PM

What a moron. Glad the wis community is tight enough to recognize scum like this and out them.

Karahana · 12 January 2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by monbk

or likes curry for breakfast.

+10

Britexpat76 · 12 January 2015, 08:01 PM

He must have balls of steel to walk into an AD with a Fake. Unbelievable.

ronburgundy · 12 January 2015, 11:31 PM

This is very disappointing as we were pretty good friends on IG and have been for some time. I'm surprised, but more disappointed than anything. He really does sound like a bit of a sociopath. I'll be staying clear from now on. Thanks for the heads up and I'm glad this information came to light.

Brushpup · 14 January 2015, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

What a moron. Glad the wis community is tight enough to recognize scum like this and out them.

Yes it is. He is so done, and it's great to see his kind outed like this. Good riddance iWally sayub... Whoever. You'll never be trusted in the watch community again!

afterworkproject · 14 January 2015, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Igerswis

Just got a heads up that he's back on Instagram as @zsssa_4130

Just tried to search for this IG handle and it doesn't exist. Looks like it was changed to @zsayub40 His profile "Brb -exams" suggests that it's the same person after reading through this thread. The account's private...

AJSM · 14 January 2015, 08:38 AM

Dude has not even been a member for a year and had o

AJSM · 14 January 2015, 09:29 AM

My browser wont let me edit.
What I wanted to say is that in less than a year he had 400+ posts... Also is BANNED within the same amount of time... WOW!

silverbug · 14 January 2015, 12:40 PM

Given that this character has obviously attempted to defraud on numerous occasions , why has no-one involved reported him to the police?
I wouldn't be surprised if he was already known to the law enforcement authorities.......

bayerische · 14 January 2015, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Britexpat76

He must have balls of steel to walk into an AD with a Fake. Unbelievable.

Or... He is simply

enough.

Britexpat76 · 14 January 2015, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJSM

My browser wont let me edit.
What I wanted to say is that in less than a year he had 400+ posts... Also is BANNED within the same amount of time... WOW!

To some, posts = credibility.

MonBK · 14 January 2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Didn't he attend the first London GTG a few years ago?

I think I recognize him?

Ooops I was wrong, it was the summer 2014 GTG and I knew I had seen him before.

BH13GMT · 16 January 2015, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Ooops I was wrong, it was the summer 2014 GTG and I knew I had seen him before.

Yep I spoke to him for a while at that GTG, He was just getting into watches (apparently) I think he had a SubC no date on at the time. Quite expensive tastes for someone training to be a pharmacist. Very quiet chap no heirs or graces, he did seem to appear from nowhere.

MonBK · 16 January 2015, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BH13GMT

Yep I spoke to him for a while at that GTG, He was just getting into watches (apparently) I think he had a SubC no date on at the time. Quite expensive tastes for someone training to be a pharmacist. Very quiet chap no heirs or graces, he did seem to appear from nowhere.

Must have been looking fo customers?

BH13GMT · 16 January 2015, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Must have been looking fo customers?

Glad my name isn't Mark

PJ S · 17 January 2015, 06:16 AM

His "former" rep friends have taken the revelation of his deceit very much to heart.
Can't say I agree with how far they've taken the matter, but it's their call.

BH13GMT · 17 January 2015, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ S

His "former" rep friends have taken the revelation of his deceit very much to heart.
Can't say I agree with how far they've taken the matter, but it's their call.

Wow. Just read that thread. Some serious detective work. I must say I wasn't expecting pics of properties etc. The guy has nowhere to go.

locutus49 · 17 January 2015, 07:18 AM

There is some good detective work above. Evil must be rooted out. Con men are evil because they prey on the innocent. Thanks to OP for your work.

Old Expat Beast · 17 January 2015, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ S

His "former" rep friends have taken the revelation of his deceit very much to heart.
Can't say I agree with how far they've taken the matter, but it's their call.

Internet mob justice. Could end very badly.

bayerische · 17 January 2015, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ S

His "former" rep friends have taken the revelation of his deceit very much to heart.
Can't say I agree with how far they've taken the matter, but it's their call.

Interesting that Replica watch "sporters" have such a righteous and moral way about them.

Xenophon · 17 January 2015, 10:12 PM

Good greif, what a chancer

and what a brass neck to come to the GTG. No doubt looking to line up his next mark.

On a different note Mon, I like curry for breakfast !

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Or likes Curry for breakfast.

PJ S · 21 January 2015, 10:02 PM

In case you've not been keeping up with what's been happening over on their forum, here's where they're up to now.
It's good to learn, and see demonstrated, that they really don't abide people using reps to take others' money, under the false pretence of being offered a genuine one.

Wesley Crusher · 24 January 2015, 12:54 PM

LOL @ the facial reconstruction

jandr272 · 24 February 2015, 03:28 PM

Some of this is worth jail time here stateside, especially dealing over bank wire and the Internet. Why hasn't this chap been brought up on charges? Seems to still be active looking at his Facebook.

11 January 2015, 01:51 AM	#33
Igerswis "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 185	Just got a heads up that he's back on Instagram as @zsssa_4130 __________________ Omega PO9300 / Speedie / DSOM Breitling Airwolf / Navitimer Rolex SD4000 / DSSD Raymond Weil Parsifal / Zenith El Primero Stratos Casio GWF-1000 / GW-1000 / MTG-S1030

12 January 2015, 01:20 AM	#35
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	what an embarrassment to his family. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

12 January 2015, 01:04 PM	#36
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	He was active on IG, hope he has learned his lesson __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

12 January 2015, 11:31 PM	#40
ronburgundy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Rob Location: Texas Watch: BLNR Posts: 364	This is very disappointing as we were pretty good friends on IG and have been for some time. I'm surprised, but more disappointed than anything. He really does sound like a bit of a sociopath. I'll be staying clear from now on. Thanks for the heads up and I'm glad this information came to light. __________________ On IG: robertrussell

14 January 2015, 12:40 PM	#45
silverbug "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: UK Watch: 116610LN Posts: 52	Given that this character has obviously attempted to defraud on numerous occasions , why has no-one involved reported him to the police? I wouldn't be surprised if he was already known to the law enforcement authorities....... __________________ Submariner 116610LN Air-King 114200

10 January 2015, 04:48 AM	#31
GMTfanatic "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex GMT MasterII Posts: 101	What the hell ... He was a quite engaged Instagram User and I even invited him in our Watches Facebook group and we commented on our pictures a lot! I think the case with the fake watches with 16yo was a youth-sin, and maybe he was betrayed himself (and abviously too naive to check) with the Longines. Mistakes on every side: 1. Seller (maybe) lied, 2. Buyer: Sayub: Too naive to check, 3. buyer: too naive too because he didn't checked immediately!! So I hope every side is learning out of that case.

10 January 2015, 11:12 AM	#32
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Sorry GMTfanatic, but you're giving too much credence to ZSayub/iwally – the member who sold him the Longines isn't the sort to mislead anyone, and he even says he told him in one of the quoted comments I pasted up there. At the end of the day, all this stemmed from an agreement to refund £30/CHF46/$50 in light of the difference in carat, and after chasing ZSayub for the refund, Baden posted the thread in TZ-UK's H&V (heroes and villains) feedback section, with a question mark. Subsequent digging and revelations from other members uncovered the whole unsavoury truth about him, and things really got hot under the collar when it was found he is active on a replica forum(s). Now if Dad is in the dental game (again), making crowns or dentures, etc, then he just might be helping out with his son's education at University, but it's unknown if his generosity extends to part payment of the real Rolex he bought from a member here. After what has come to light, it's certainly open to conjecture that he's duped buyers elsewhere with fake Omegas, and it only takes a few successful cons to amass enough to buy a genuine Rolex or get Dad to go halvers with him. Having a real one, and being able to point back to its purchase from here, gives him a smokescreen to hide behind when sending out replicas off the back of images of the real thing. And that's not forgetting he nearly duped another member into swapping his PP for the replica AP. Long story short.....don't shed any tears over his removal, since it was completely deserved and of his own making.

12 January 2015, 01:57 PM	#37
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	What a moron. Glad the wis community is tight enough to recognize scum like this and out them.

12 January 2015, 08:01 PM	#39
Britexpat76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: James Location: Middle East Watch: AP ROO,GP FTC, YM Posts: 892	He must have balls of steel to walk into an AD with a Fake. Unbelievable.

14 January 2015, 08:38 AM	#43
AJSM 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: CA Posts: 604	Dude has not even been a member for a year and had o

14 January 2015, 09:29 AM	#44
AJSM 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: CA Posts: 604	My browser wont let me edit. What I wanted to say is that in less than a year he had 400+ posts... Also is BANNED within the same amount of time... WOW!

17 January 2015, 06:16 AM	#52
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	His "former" rep friends have taken the revelation of his deceit very much to heart. Can't say I agree with how far they've taken the matter, but it's their call.

17 January 2015, 07:18 AM	#54
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	There is some good detective work above. Evil must be rooted out. Con men are evil because they prey on the innocent. Thanks to OP for your work.

21 January 2015, 10:02 PM	#58
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	In case you've not been keeping up with what's been happening over on their forum, here's where they're up to now. It's good to learn, and see demonstrated, that they really don't abide people using reps to take others' money, under the false pretence of being offered a genuine one.

24 January 2015, 12:54 PM	#59
Wesley Crusher "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Wes Location: Holosuite Posts: 6,345	LOL @ the facial reconstruction

24 February 2015, 03:28 PM	#60
jandr272 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: James Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 134	Some of this is worth jail time here stateside, especially dealing over bank wire and the Internet. Why hasn't this chap been brought up on charges? Seems to still be active looking at his Facebook.

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