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Old 11 April 2015, 08:20 PM   #31
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IMHO watch winders are not needed with any Rolex watch and are little more than big boys toys its that simple.
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Old 12 April 2015, 12:16 PM   #32
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Here ya' go, pay particular attention to #4:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....0&postcount=57
#2 was more of an eye-opener for me. All good solid advice and, in the case of #4, common sense IMHO.

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Old 14 April 2015, 02:01 AM   #33
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No need for the unnecessary wear and tear on the movement.
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Old 1 June 2015, 10:08 PM   #34
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...well... I don't know how you can take your sub off. Mine is welded to my person, never to be removed; if fact I think it would require an SF team, some quick acting sedatives and a surgeon!

Seriously though, I've considered a watch winder many times but never been too successful with rotation so most autos normally live in the box or safe, and to my mind they're gone to so infrequently, a hand wind and set is no chore at all.

In short: not needed in my scenario.
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Old 1 June 2015, 10:34 PM   #35
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...well... I don't know how you can take your sub off. Mine is welded to my person, never to be removed; if fact I think it would require an SF team, some quick acting sedatives and a surgeon!...
So I take it you don't have your watch serviced every 5-7 years, or is the RSC service covered by your health insurance?
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Old 1 June 2015, 10:37 PM   #36
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Regardless of winder or not seals and gaskets in watch dry and harden up over time so waterproofness will be compromised. A winder has not been shown to wear out a movement any faster than not wearing the watch. How many instances have you read on this forum someone winding up their watch when something inside goes "snap"? When the mainspring stays fully wound on a winder it keeps the movement at peak accuracy and the mainspring is less likely to break than if it is always going from a wound to unwound back to wound state.
So as far as my opinion my two Subs stay on my winder and stay fully wound and
Properly set regardless of whether I wear them or not.
Afraid that not correct a winder does not wind any watch all it does is just keep the movement ticking.On a winder it only puts back the power reserve to what ever the mainspring had to start with,in most all programmed machine winders less.If a movement is running its wearing that's a fact,and things like seals and mainsprings are just disposable items that are always changed at routine service anyway.Just think of all the millions of manual wind watches Rolex included, they got would up daily for decades.And a automatic watch is just a manual wind watch with a auto wind mechanism and today most crown related problems are down to the winding crown not being used enough.
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Old 1 June 2015, 10:37 PM   #37
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So I take it you don't have your watch serviced every 5-7 years, or is the RSC service covered by your health insurance?
ask me in 4 years 362 days - only had the sub since friday!
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Old 12 August 2015, 01:59 PM   #38
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Hi !
I store my watches dial down, since, from my POV, they where put together and oiled this way, hence the oil will stay where is needed!

It has worked on watches stored for years and the work great!

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Old 13 August 2015, 09:15 AM   #39
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I have been asked this many times and I think I have the "best" answer.

Scenario 1: You do not put it on a winder, the watch needs to be manually set every time. Depending on time in storage, oils can coagulate, dry up and require service over time.

Scenario 2: You keep it on a winder, you rarely ever have to change the date and time and the oils are constantly being used. You are also putting 100 times the wear on the moving parts, gears, spring, etc.. than if you wear the watch only a couple of days a week.
Service time for either may be the same as one way uses the oils and the other way coagulates the oils.

The difference between these two scenarios is that you are putting unnecessary wear and tear on the movement and these parts cannot last forever. I personally would rather NOT use a winder and deal with the inconvenience of setting the time and/or date once a week rather than foot the inevitable repair bill to replace parts that have been worn dues to 24/7 use.

The best scenario for me is to wear the watch at least once a week or two to keep the fluids from coagulating, keep the moving parts moving but, not wearing them out from constant operation.

Short Answer for me: NO WINDER.
Good way to think about it.
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Old 14 August 2015, 01:44 AM   #40
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Use a watch winder if you can afford to buy and run it. It would save you time as your watches will always be ready to wear and it also saves the wear and tear of having to set the time every time.

The huge benefit of watch winders is when used with annual and perpetual calendar watches where they have very delicate movements and an array of settings which takes time to adjust carefully.

That being said, in today's world I'd be surprised if the oils used in high horology weren't super engineered from degradation from inactivity.
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I"m going to follow your advice, and enjoy wearing my sub, on a daily basis....
I have two rolex, 2008 sub and a explorer MK2. simple solution, i do a Schwarzkopf and where one on each wrist.
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Old 28 June 2019, 08:38 AM   #42
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Old 7 July 2019, 12:12 AM   #43
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I have been asked this many times and I think I have the "best" answer.

Scenario 1: You do not put it on a winder, the watch needs to be manually set every time. Depending on time in storage, oils can coagulate, dry up and require service over time.

Scenario 2: You keep it on a winder, you rarely ever have to change the date and time and the oils are constantly being used. You are also putting 100 times the wear on the moving parts, gears, spring, etc.. than if you wear the watch only a couple of days a week.
Service time for either may be the same as one way uses the oils and the other way coagulates the oils.

The difference between these two scenarios is that you are putting unnecessary wear and tear on the movement and these parts cannot last forever. I personally would rather NOT use a winder and deal with the inconvenience of setting the time and/or date once a week rather than foot the inevitable repair bill to replace parts that have been worn dues to 24/7 use.

The best scenario for me is to wear the watch at least once a week or two to keep the fluids from coagulating, keep the moving parts moving but, not wearing them out from constant operation.

Short Answer for me: NO WINDER.


Great answer, wish others had put it so well! Thanks


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Old 7 July 2019, 07:51 PM   #44
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The lubricants used now are synthetic not natural so don't coagulate like they used to, you can leave them for ages and they will be fine, they can dry up but they will over time anyway, it's good to give the crown a few turns to get the movement going every so often, that's what I do to my watches I don't wear often. I used to use winders too but it's not really needed unless you have a perpetual calendar etc.
Remember watches are meant to beat 24/7 so they will be fine. At the same time watches can be be in a shop for ages before being sold and wound. And they still work fine when sold


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Not really. Often watches that were kept in store for a long time do not keep time well and need first service sooner then normal.

There is more mechanical stress on movement parts in pulling the crown, setting time and winding from fully unwound then when keeping it in the winder.


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Old 9 July 2019, 07:29 PM   #46
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Your choice, there's no "correct" way.
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Old 12 July 2019, 01:30 AM   #47
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Leave it and when you’re ready to wear it just wind it back up, no harm.
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