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Old 13 August 2019, 10:18 PM   #1
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Is this a fake seadweeler double red?

Like the title says. Ran across this for sale but have heard there are lots of good fakes out there so any opinions are welcome
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Old 13 August 2019, 10:54 PM   #2
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Like the title says. Ran across this for sale but have heard there are lots of good fakes out there so any opinions are welcome
I guess real buy the seller
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Old 13 August 2019, 11:06 PM   #3
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There was a fake DRSD being sold/resold earlier this year. Search this forum for 'DRSD' and the thread should come up, it was a VERY GOOD fake.
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Old 13 August 2019, 11:21 PM   #4
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Is this a fake seadweeler double red?

OP: Is this the listing?



I’m not linking to it (yet). But are your pictures a mix of 2 different listings?

I ask because 2 of your photos go with a DRSD in the listing I saw but the other pictures are not in that listing?

BTW - not accusing you of anything. You may have come across a listing where the seller stole photo’s from another listing.


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Old 14 August 2019, 12:18 AM   #5
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Its a correct mk4 dial, I have Some doubts About the caseback, Rolex is written around the caseback, this was in the 5.1-5.2 serial nummer range, this brings to mind, if the caseback isnt correct probably the case is also not correct.
Be extra carefull and check the case very well...
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Old 14 August 2019, 01:04 AM   #6
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No that's not it but I just saw it on ebay and your right some of the pics do look the same. That's a pretty big flag
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Old 14 August 2019, 01:33 AM   #7
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No that's not it but I just saw it on ebay and your right some of the pics do look the same. That's a pretty big flag


They don’t just “look” the same - they are the same.

Please post the link so we can get the imposter’s listing ashcanned.

This is the one that I found with the original pictures. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-DOUBL...3/273776675440


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Old 14 August 2019, 01:37 AM   #8
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Here are the 2 pics I see that were lifted and put in the one you found:






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Old 14 August 2019, 01:46 AM   #9
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Yeah, there was another one from that listing that was also lifted. This seems to be some sort of scam so I'm stating away, I also reported it to ebay. The seller hasnt answered any of my questions either. The pics I sent were from another listing

Thanks for the help all
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Old 14 August 2019, 01:48 AM   #10
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Yeah, there was another one from that listing that was also lifted. This seems to be some sort of scam so I'm stating away, I also reported it to ebay. The seller hasnt answered any of my questions either. The pics I sent were from another listing

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Please post the link to the listing where you saw those photos.


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Old 14 August 2019, 02:51 AM   #11
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I cant post links but its seller trout903 on ebay. He also says he cant send additional pics so it's got to be some type scam or hacked account. I have reported it to ebay.
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Old 14 August 2019, 03:38 AM   #12
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I cant post links but its seller trout903 on ebay. He also says he cant send additional pics so it's got to be some type scam or hacked account. I have reported it to ebay.
I searched his uid on eBay.

Guys, this trout903 appears to have stolen photos from another eBay listing.

This is the suspect listing below - I have reported it but auction ends in just a few hours so the more reports the better.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Sea-dweller/153596385718


Compare it to this listing that appears to be legit:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-DOUBL...3/273776675440

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Old 14 August 2019, 05:00 AM   #13
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Hopefully it gets canceled and someone doesn't get screwed. Thanks for the input. This is why these forums are great
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Old 14 August 2019, 05:37 AM   #14
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I searched his uid on eBay.

Guys, this trout903 appears to have stolen photos from another eBay listing.

This is the suspect listing below - I have reported it but auction ends in just a few hours so the more reports the better.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Sea-dweller/153596385718


Compare it to this listing that appears to be legit:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-DOUBL...3/273776675440

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What exactly did you report>
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Old 14 August 2019, 05:40 AM   #15
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What exactly did you report>

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Violated listing practices and suspected fraud.

Are you also reporting?


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Old 14 August 2019, 05:41 AM   #16
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Well you need to give a description or reason, and I could not see exactly what was stolen - sorry
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Old 14 August 2019, 05:48 AM   #17
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Well you need to give a description or reason, and I could not see exactly what was stolen - sorry


That isn’t the case on fraudulent listings. I’ve made them before. It’s not the same as reporting a replica.

The case here is a bit complex. You should be able to decipher the potential scam by looking at the two listings. But here is my assessment.

There are 2 listings by 2 different sellers (one in Georgia; one in Louisiana) sharing some of the same pictures of a 1665 (but having other pictures of different watches).

That is suspected fraud worth reporting. No worries if you’re unsure. The fraudulent one has ended anyway.


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Old 14 August 2019, 06:08 AM   #18
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Got you - understood
REMOVED by ebay its reversed (annulled)
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REMOVED by ebay its reversed (annulled)


Thanks - was it actually removed?

Or did it just end without a sale? (reserve not met perhaps)

On my iPhone I can’t tell.


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Old 14 August 2019, 06:40 AM   #20
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Thanks - was it actually removed?

Or did it just end without a sale? (reserve not met perhaps)

On my iPhone I can’t tell.


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Yes its anulled - so no one got duped!
Thanks for investigating it
Complete listing is gone
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Old 14 August 2019, 07:12 AM   #21
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Yes its anulled - so no one got duped!
Thanks for investigating it
Complete listing is gone
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Thanks for verifying. I’m guessing the OP’s report plus mine and others got eBay’s attention.

I don’t usually care about killing fake listings - normally care more about killing listings with fake watches.

Glad it got deleted.



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Hopefully it gets canceled and someone doesn't get screwed. Thanks for the input. This is why these forums are great

Glad you started the thread.

It certainly took a left turn - originally you wanted to know if it was a sketchy watch. But when I sought the listing you saw, I found the other listing from which the photo’s were stolen.

From there it was apparent a different type of scam was underway.


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Old 14 August 2019, 07:16 AM   #22
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I reported it AFTER it was closed, asking for it to be anulled.

Good work by all
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