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PT_91 · 29 February 2024, 02:21 AM

https://perezcope.com/2024/02/24/the...l-no-1-scheme/

Enjoy this fascinating read!

brandrea · 29 February 2024, 02:24 AM

At least he’s taking a break from bashing on Panerai

(sort of).

Ferdelious · 29 February 2024, 02:25 AM

I read this over the weekend. Fantastic journalism.

Kingface66 · 29 February 2024, 03:44 AM

Wow. Just fantastic reporting as always, José.
Curious, does Hodinkee, or Clymer, ever respond to Perez’s articles? As damning as they are, not replying/defending himself is even more damning.

rootbeer7 · 29 February 2024, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

Wow. Just fantastic reporting as always, José.
Curious, does Hodinkee, or Clymer, ever respond to Perez’s articles? As damning as they are, not replying/defending himself is even more damning.

If you look at his Jose’s Instagram page (coincidence it keeps being taken down?) you’ll see a couple of well-known dealers commenting.

Kingface66 · 29 February 2024, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rootbeer7

If you look at his Jose’s Instagram page (coincidence it keeps being taken down?) you’ll see a couple of well-known dealers commenting.

Thanks for that, mate. I just took a look.
Man, oh man.

Incroyable12 · 29 February 2024, 04:53 AM

Is he persona non grata at major watch events and auctions?

He basically bashes all the sacred cows in that world.

Kingface66 · 29 February 2024, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Incroyable12

He basically bashes all the sacred cows in that world.

I think “exposes” is more accurate.

Incroyable12 · 29 February 2024, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

I think “exposes” is more accurate.

In a rather pugnacious way though.

"Social Clymer" lol

illiguy · 29 February 2024, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Incroyable12

In a rather pugnacious way though.

"Social Clymer" lol

That stood out also. It’s so clever, has potential staying power.

Dench · 29 February 2024, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by illiguy

That stood out also. It’s so clever, has potential staying power.

so does "dullector"

Jackie Daytona · 29 February 2024, 06:14 AM

Always enjoy these. Ridiculous the auction world doesn’t change and just keeps perpetuating it all really.

Kingface66 · 29 February 2024, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Incroyable12

In a rather pugnacious way though.

"Social Clymer" lol

Hey, if the shoe fits, and all…

MrBlobby · 29 February 2024, 07:50 AM

I quite like Hodinkee.

joli160 · 29 February 2024, 07:21 PM

He catches them all

I must agree with the useful idiot. Hodinkee is of course not a serious blog.

PT_91 · 29 February 2024, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackie Daytona

Always enjoy these. Ridiculous the auction world doesn’t change and just keeps perpetuating it all really.

This boggles my mind as well.

TuRo · 29 February 2024, 09:45 PM

In bed with Hoodwinky and the Fauxineer !

Should be a new Netflix fly-on-the-wall black comedy ....

But seriously, these alleged serial occurrences of things, needs to incurr dire consequence, surely, if they are correct/proven

We had all this in the vintage car game about 30 years ago - I very nearly got caught on a vintage Maserati (talked up at a prestigious Auction), and that was being sold by serial fraudster (and friend of Royalty) Lord Brocket...the car wasn't what it claimed to be !

Hi did jail time ...his wife shopped him too!....worthy of a film too I'd say ! Worth a read too :

https://supercarnostalgia.com/blog/l...nd-the-furnace

https://www.hagerty.com/media/automo...surance-fraud/

1William · 29 February 2024, 10:29 PM

Major concerns about independent journalism. It does not exist at most of the larger pages and Hodinkee has not been a serious page in years since they sold out. Not blaming anyone but you have to read these articles with a grain of salt and understand who is paying the bills, the watch companies. Jose is great and well researched.

996marty · 1 March 2024, 01:49 AM

Makes for an interesting read

Dom9 · 1 March 2024, 06:11 AM

Can feel the burn from here! Brilliant stuff!

TimeLord2 · 1 March 2024, 08:16 AM

Very well researched and extreme attention to detail as always. Great read, thanks for sharing!

Crown & Shield · 5 March 2024, 09:32 AM

This really cracked me up: "Fraudo Monetari a.k.a. John Goldburglar"

Incroyable12 · 5 March 2024, 09:15 PM

Guess they're only able to get away with this because Rolex is so secretive about their archives.

PP, AP, VC all release their info if you pay for it so it's hard to stamp fake serial numbers or mix and match things.

Jackie Daytona · 5 March 2024, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TuRo

In bed with Hoodwinky and the Fauxineer !

Should be a new Netflix fly-on-the-wall black comedy ....

But seriously, these alleged serial occurrences of things, needs to incurr dire consequence, surely, if they are correct/proven

We had all this in the vintage car game about 30 years ago - I very nearly got caught on a vintage Maserati (talked up at a prestigious Auction), and that was being sold by serial fraudster (and friend of Royalty) Lord Brocket...the car wasn't what it claimed to be !

Hi did jail time ...his wife shopped him too!....worthy of a film too I'd say ! Worth a read too :

https://supercarnostalgia.com/blog/l...nd-the-furnace

https://www.hagerty.com/media/automo...surance-fraud/

That’s quite the story. Thanks for sharing.

There seems to be more and more of this in the collector car world anymore. I suppose with anything where rarity and value are concerned there’s always someone with bad intent looking to capitalize on it.

swish77 · 6 March 2024, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TuRo

In bed with Hoodwinky and the Fauxineer !

Should be a new Netflix fly-on-the-wall black comedy ....

Every collector market of anything has its fraudsters. And speaking of fraud and Netflix, watch the 2016 film "Sour Grapes" about the collector wine market. A lot of parallels with the bad guys in the vintage Rolex world.

crowncollection · 6 March 2024, 03:13 PM

I enjoyed the article cheers

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Pacha · 7 March 2024, 03:30 AM

Interesting and very entertaining!

TuRo · 7 March 2024, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by swish77

Every collector market of anything has its fraudsters. And speaking of fraud and Netflix, watch the 2016 film "Sour Grapes" about the collector wine market. A lot of parallels with the bad guys in the vintage Rolex world.

Sour Grapes was a corker (slight pun intended), thanks....

29 February 2024, 02:21 AM	#1
PT_91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Switzerland Posts: 477	Another one by Perezcope https://perezcope.com/2024/02/24/the...l-no-1-scheme/ Enjoy this fascinating read!

29 February 2024, 02:25 AM	#3
Ferdelious 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Matt Location: Tampa, FL Watch: Hulk/SD4K/SeaQ/P39 Posts: 3,183	I read this over the weekend. Fantastic journalism. __________________ Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.

29 February 2024, 03:44 AM	#4
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,425	Wow. Just fantastic reporting as always, José. Curious, does Hodinkee, or Clymer, ever respond to Perez’s articles? As damning as they are, not replying/defending himself is even more damning. __________________

29 February 2024, 06:14 AM	#12
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29 February 2024, 02:24 AM	#2
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 74,684	At least he’s taking a break from bashing on Panerai (sort of).

29 February 2024, 04:53 AM	#7
Incroyable12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 1,054	Is he persona non grata at major watch events and auctions? He basically bashes all the sacred cows in that world.

29 February 2024, 07:50 AM	#14
MrBlobby "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: UK Posts: 300	I quite like Hodinkee.

29 February 2024, 09:45 PM	#17
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,633	In bed with Hoodwinky and the Fauxineer ! Should be a new Netflix fly-on-the-wall black comedy .... But seriously, these alleged serial occurrences of things, needs to incurr dire consequence, surely, if they are correct/proven We had all this in the vintage car game about 30 years ago - I very nearly got caught on a vintage Maserati (talked up at a prestigious Auction), and that was being sold by serial fraudster (and friend of Royalty) Lord Brocket...the car wasn't what it claimed to be ! Hi did jail time ...his wife shopped him too!....worthy of a film too I'd say ! Worth a read too : https://supercarnostalgia.com/blog/l...nd-the-furnace https://www.hagerty.com/media/automo...surance-fraud/ __________________ How many times have I been downhearted Looked up and see him smiling like a shiny dime And hoped that he would stay and tell me Why he was so happy if he had the time Everybody Gets To Go To The Moon - Jimmy Webb

29 February 2024, 10:29 PM	#18
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 45,490	Major concerns about independent journalism. It does not exist at most of the larger pages and Hodinkee has not been a serious page in years since they sold out. Not blaming anyone but you have to read these articles with a grain of salt and understand who is paying the bills, the watch companies. Jose is great and well researched.

1 March 2024, 01:49 AM	#19
996marty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Uk Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928 Posts: 3,092	Makes for an interesting read

1 March 2024, 06:11 AM	#20
Dom9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Real Name: Dom Location: Surrey, UK Watch: SD16600 & 9411 Posts: 352	Can feel the burn from here! Brilliant stuff! __________________ Rolex 16610, 16600, Tudor 9411/0 (black and blue), black 79090, black 76100.... and a 90520

1 March 2024, 08:16 AM	#21
TimeLord2 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Valencia, CA Watch: GMT Master 1675/3 Posts: 2,071	Very well researched and extreme attention to detail as always. Great read, thanks for sharing!

5 March 2024, 09:32 AM	#22
Crown & Shield "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: The Alps Posts: 573	This really cracked me up: "Fraudo Monetari a.k.a. John Goldburglar"

5 March 2024, 09:15 PM	#23
Incroyable12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 1,054	Guess they're only able to get away with this because Rolex is so secretive about their archives. PP, AP, VC all release their info if you pay for it so it's hard to stamp fake serial numbers or mix and match things.

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