Boeing 737 MAX Discussion

[ct.matt]

After those internal communications were made public, no way I will ever let anyone I love or care about step onto a 737 MAX.
How do you spell safety in 2020? A-I-R-B-U-S

[enjoythemusic]

As more reports and text/emails from Boeing are coming to light, unless someone from the Fed's Wall Street group can keep the stock propped up (for MIL reasons, probably), the stock looks like a profitable short for sure.

[Runnin' Rebel]

FAA has certified the aircraft to fly as of today. Pilots are going to need full motion sim retraining which will take a couple of months more to get enough pilots in rotation. Slowly integrating the aircraft back into service. No, there’re not going discount the airfare to get you on board.

[GB-man]

Fawwwk that lol I’d rather take the bus. Airbus, school bus, any bus.

[swatty]

Boeing website says mid 2020 return

https://www.boeing.com/737-max-updates/

[bayerische]

Well it might be back in service, but no-one will fly on it. Media will make sure of that once it's getting near to be put back into service.

I will never fly on it, out of principle.

[bondtoys]

... and rightly so.

I am already selecting future trips by aircraft and are trying to avoid by all means the 737-NG and 787 already.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by bayerische

Well it might be back in service, but no-one will fly on it. Media will make sure of that once it's getting near to be put back into service.

I will never fly on it, out of principle.

Exactly.

Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice...

[Jim Smyth]

Many new aircraft designs in aviation history have had start up issues. But now we have the media that over sensationalizes everything. The public generally has very short memories. In time this will be a blip on the radar and we will have moved on just like all the rest. I have no problem boarding a Max at any time with any of my family members. I will support the home team and I Love Boeing aircraft!

[bondtoys]

Well, this is not a start up issue.
From everything that we know, Boeing prioritized getting the model on the market over potential safety issues.

It‘s a cultural thing and I don‘t want to sit in one of these planes that has been made under those ethics - or lack of.

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Fawwwk that lol I’d rather take the bus. Airbus, school bus, any bus.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Jim Smyth

Many new aircraft designs in aviation history have had start up issues. But now we have the media that over sensationalizes everything. The public generally has very short memories. In time this will be a blip on the radar and we will have moved on just like all the rest. I have no problem boarding a Max at any time with any of my family members. I will support the home team and I Love Boeing aircraft!

Sad.

You don’t need media to over-sensationalize two planes crashing because a Fortune 50 company decided people were worth the risk. It, uh, it’s planes crashing. They’re big. The people kinda matter. People will notice.

This wasn’t a Homer I didn’t mean to drop a wrench on the assembly line thing.

[erhein]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

This wasn’t a Homer I didn’t mean to drop a wrench on the assembly line thing.

Absolutely! Every step of the way, calculated decisions were made utilizing a cost/benefit analysis from the very design of the aircraft to how much training to provide to pilots. I just wonder what the acceptable loss of life was. How long would Boeing have continued to keep the plane in service were it not for the dogged determination of the aviation press. Even after the second MAX crash, Boeing claimed the two crashes were caused by a software issue which had since been corrected. Simply despicable!

[enjoythemusic]

As i said earlier, problem with the MAX is an inherent engine mount / landing gear flaw. Electronic 'fixes' only can do so much. Plus chances of survival during a needed maneuver is greatly diminished.