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Old 9 January 2017, 01:10 PM   #1
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5513 "Meters First" or "Maxi"

It used to be that the 5513 "meters first" has a premium compared to a 5513 maxi dial in terms of value. Lately, it seems that the price for both are about the same already. Is it because there is a greater demand for maxi dialed 5513s now? Your thoughts will be highly appreciated.
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Old 9 January 2017, 03:38 PM   #2
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Maxi is what I would want
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Old 10 January 2017, 12:42 AM   #3
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A Maxi MK1 is the only Maxi Dial that I'd pay any premium for. All things being equal though I'd much rather have a meters first. Just a preference at this point. People seem to like the big lume plots though as well as it being the last depth first sub dial
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Old 10 January 2017, 01:11 AM   #4
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A Maxi MK1 is the only Maxi Dial that I'd pay any premium for. All things being equal though I'd much rather have a meters first. Just a preference at this point. People seem to like the big lume plots though as well as it being the last depth first sub dial
Is it a fact that the lollipop dial (mk3?) is the most desirable?
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Old 10 January 2017, 01:15 AM   #5
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Have a maxi 5512 and a mf 5513...if I had to pick one ...I'd go mf all dayIMG_2220.jpg
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Old 10 January 2017, 01:28 AM   #6
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They have really jumped in value the last couple years.
I foolishly sold mine last year
Historically I preferred the meters first but was mainly interested in gilt. Of the matte options my favorite is the MKI Maxi.
I really miss mine. Regret moving it.
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Old 10 January 2017, 02:52 AM   #7
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I would never, ever, ever pay a premium for a meters-first dial (matte) over a feet-first dial, everything else being equal. I've yet to hear a good explanation as to why some collectors consider them more desirable than feet-first dials.

Maxi dials are definitely great and more desirable, in my book anyway. They actually make a strong visual impact on the dial, unlike meters-first dials.
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Old 10 January 2017, 03:53 AM   #8
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Maxi for me
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Old 10 January 2017, 04:16 AM   #9
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Old 10 January 2017, 04:45 AM   #10
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Maxi for me as well
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Old 10 January 2017, 05:16 AM   #11
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Stunning watch grechuta Is that a mk1?
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Old 10 January 2017, 05:32 AM   #12
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Stunning watch grechuta Is that a mk1?


Thanks, and yep, mk1, picked it up a few months back from greekbum.
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Old 10 January 2017, 06:49 AM   #13
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So educate me and I have spent an age on the wonderful 5513mattedial website, is there a name for my '69 ft first 5513?? As I understand it the Maxi Mk1 did not see the light of day until '76.

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Old 10 January 2017, 08:17 AM   #14
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5513 "Meters First" or "Maxi"


MF for me!


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Old 10 January 2017, 08:40 AM   #15
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Although I prefer the Mark 1 Maxi

Thickest, nicest case,dial and hands for the money for me
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Old 10 January 2017, 09:58 AM   #16
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Maxi MK 1 for me as well.
I am clearly biased though!
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Old 10 January 2017, 10:02 AM   #17
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Visually the Maxi plots look better to me, however there is something extra special about a MF dial.

I agree, prices for maxis have gone up recently.
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Old 10 January 2017, 01:34 PM   #18
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I prefer maxi dials in general but the mid to late sixties dials with the small plots as well as small dial writing are handsome in their own understated way.

My '67 is almost ready for it's debut but I'm holding off until I have it all together.
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Old 11 January 2017, 11:18 AM   #19
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there is something extra special about a MF dial.
Why? I'm originally from Europe, so meters before feet is absolutely meaningless to me. I'm certainly OK with it, but I don't find it more special than feet-first dials.

I still scratch my head every time I read something like this. I guess I'm missing something, although I've yet to hear a good explanation. Is it just because they're older? (I'm talking about the matte dials, of course. Gilts are another story.)
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Old 11 January 2017, 12:38 PM   #20
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Why? I'm originally from Europe, so meters before feet is absolutely meaningless to me. I'm certainly OK with it, but I don't find it more special than feet-first dials.

I still scratch my head every time I read something like this. I guess I'm missing something, although I've yet to hear a good explanation. Is it just because they're older? (I'm talking about the matte dials, of course. Gilts are another story.)
Personal preference I suppose". MF dials just appeal to me, simple as that. To each his own

This excerpt from 5513mattedial.com and Beaumont Millers explanation sums it up for me:

The change from the gilt gloss dialed 5513 to the meters first matte dialed 5513 started around the 1.6 mil serial range or 1966. The majority of the cases stamped with a 1.7 serial number were produced in 1968, and by then the meters first matte dial was in full production. However the period from late 1969 to early 1970, consistent with the 2.2 mil serial range, represents an overlap in which both meters first and feet first matte 5513 dials can be found. I have read that perhaps the reason for the transition from meters first to feet first was an attempt to increase sales in the US market, a country that had not at the time and still has not widely adopted the metric system.

That and the fact they are more rare make it more special to me.
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Old 11 January 2017, 05:08 PM   #21
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Either first maxi (maxi 1), or the last (maxi 5), theb meters first
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Old 12 January 2017, 03:19 AM   #22
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Personal preference I suppose". MF dials just appeal to me, simple as that. To each his own

That and the fact they are more rare make it more special to me.
Yes, fair enough! To each their own!

An interesting side note .... Feet-first dials are actually more rare on the 5512s if you take the reference's entire production run into account, and assuming Rolex made roughly the same amount each year. The 5512s ran from 1959 to 1978, with the last 8-9 years being made with feet-first dials.
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Old 12 January 2017, 04:51 AM   #23
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Yes, fair enough! To each their own!



An interesting side note .... Feet-first dials are actually more rare on the 5512s if you take the reference's entire production run into account, and assuming Rolex made roughly the same amount each year. The 5512s ran from 1959 to 1978, with the last 8-9 years being made with feet-first dials.

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Old 12 January 2017, 07:21 AM   #24
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Ideally, I'd like to have a Maxi 3 lollipop but condition is always the main criteria for me so I could not pass on this MK 5.
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Old 12 January 2017, 07:51 AM   #25
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These shots are stunning folks....inspired me to change up my inserts. But to the OP question....I couldn't decide so picked up both....TRF style?
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Old 12 January 2017, 07:52 AM   #26
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Ideally, I'd like to have a Maxi 3 lollipop but condition is always the main criteria for me so I could not pass on this MK 5.
Stunning example! That case is sick, as the kids say.
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Old 12 January 2017, 08:14 AM   #27
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Not a 5513 but it's a maxi and it is gorgeous ...
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Old 12 January 2017, 10:06 AM   #28
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Has to be a Maxi!
And yes, prices have gone pretty high. I picked my up for $6,000 (from a dealer) about 5 years ago.
My 1st Vintage Rolex

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Old 12 January 2017, 10:07 AM   #29
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Old 13 January 2017, 03:58 AM   #30
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Ideally, I'd like to have a Maxi 3 lollipop but condition is always the main criteria for me so I could not pass on this MK 5.
Oh man that is NICE
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