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View Poll Results: 5712/1A or 5960/1A Black
5712/1A-001 Blue Dial 99 79.84%
5960/1A-010 Black Dial 25 20.16%
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Old 18 May 2019, 05:50 AM   #1
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Icon5 5712/1A or 5960/1A Black

I know how popular the 5712/1A is. But the 5960/1A black is one of the rarest Patek sport watches, being only produced for a few months in 2017.

They have comparable market value now at USD 65-70k.

Which one do you prefer and why?

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Old 18 May 2019, 06:05 AM   #2
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5960 is more complicated and the better watch, but too shiny for my taste being all polished.

For that reason 5712.

If only the 5960 was brushed!
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Old 18 May 2019, 06:34 AM   #3
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Don’t like bracelet. 12 is unbeatable
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Old 18 May 2019, 06:37 AM   #4
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That bracelet is way too shiny


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Old 18 May 2019, 08:01 AM   #5
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That bracelet is way too shiny


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Old 18 May 2019, 08:12 AM   #6
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Take the damn thing off. Nobody is stopping you...
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Old 18 May 2019, 08:25 AM   #7
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I don’t own one.

I would do what you did if I had one.


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Old 18 May 2019, 08:53 AM   #8
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There’s something about the bracelet of the 5960 that makes me think of Breitling.
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Old 18 May 2019, 09:08 AM   #9
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5712, the 5960s have never done it for me.
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Old 18 May 2019, 09:37 AM   #10
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I know how popular the 5712/1A is. But the 5960/1A black is one of the rarest Patek sport watches, being only produced for a few months in 2017.
They have comparable market value now at USD 65-70k.
Which one do you prefer and why?
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5960/1A may be rare but for the most part not popular or sought after. They made too many 5960 variations and all are under list in secondary market. As for this one I have no clue regarding current value or how it will perform long term but I see little to no demand for it. The 5712/1A I would take over it any day of the week and twice on Sunday
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Old 18 May 2019, 09:58 AM   #11
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5172 because the 5960 is ugly. simple.
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Old 18 May 2019, 10:37 AM   #12
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5172 because the 5960 is ugly. simple.
This is what I was thinking when I typed my comment above.
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Old 18 May 2019, 10:44 AM   #13
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If the 5960 black dial is released by Rolex on an oyster bracelet under the professional series, it will have a waiting list as long as the Great Wall.
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Old 18 May 2019, 11:22 AM   #14
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5712/1a.

Annual calendars don’t do it for me. And, when a “This or That” involves a 5712/1a, it usually isn’t a fair fight, anyway.

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Old 18 May 2019, 11:27 AM   #15
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5712 is just an incredible timepiece. Definitely would like to own one someday.
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Old 18 May 2019, 12:06 PM   #16
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I find the 5960 an odd looking watch.

But a PP in SS produced for only a few months sounds like a future collectible for sure.

I prefer the 12 though.


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Old 18 May 2019, 04:50 PM   #17
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I would take the black one because it’s an amazing watch with annual calendar which was only one year in production and you cannot get any more.
A Nautilus you can get when you are waiting. The 5960 not more
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Old 18 May 2019, 04:54 PM   #18
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Old 18 May 2019, 07:52 PM   #19
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5712 also for me. I don't like the shiny bracelet and the dartboard dial of the 5960
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I would take the black one because it’s an amazing watch with annual calendar which was only one year in production and you cannot get any more.
A Nautilus you can get when you are waiting. The 5960 not more
You can get anything... it just cost money.
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Old 18 May 2019, 10:46 PM   #21
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5712 hands down
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Old 19 May 2019, 12:55 AM   #22
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5712 hands down.
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Old 19 May 2019, 01:57 AM   #23
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Just because it’s steel doesn’t make it excusable to look like...that. Nuff said
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Old 19 May 2019, 02:58 AM   #24
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I want to say 5712 because it is a little more subtle but the days of a nautilus being subtle are over so pick your poison.

I would still pick the 5712 because I never really liked the 5960 series in general. Not big on the pump pushers or the bullseye chrono.
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Old 19 May 2019, 04:20 AM   #25
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Put 5712/1A against ANY watch below 100K (and many beyond this threshold) and my pick will always the 5712/1A.
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Old 20 May 2019, 01:08 AM   #26
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5712 by a mile. But, I’m biased and do not like the 5960.
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Old 20 May 2019, 10:05 AM   #27
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Old 20 May 2019, 10:20 AM   #28
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As someone who has owned both (sold the 5960)... The 5712 is my choice. I bought the 5960 knowing that I didn't love it, but my AD sold me on the rarity of the black dial. In the end I never really was into it. Can't imagine ever saying that about the 5712.

Who knows, 20 years down the road the 5960 may be more valuable, but 12 is (and will always be) more interesting and attractive.
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Old 25 May 2019, 02:23 AM   #29
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5712 1/A by far, much much better looking watch
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Old 25 May 2019, 04:01 PM   #30
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5712 for me as well.
Mainly as I see the 5960 as a bit more dressy and it just wouldn’t get the wrist time for me in that case.
Plus some water resistance for the 5712 is always good :)
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