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Old 21 January 2021, 12:40 PM   #91
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And especially since IMO the white dial 5711 is the more attractive model (and blue is my favorite color).
A few years ago the white 5711 was considered the unattractive sister to the blue 5711 and were selling at a discount. Everything changed a day after PP announced that they were being discontinued.

Demand vs Supply will always be the driving force behind the 5711, especially at a time when Steel Sports watch has been making a comeback across all brands.
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Old 12 November 2021, 01:29 AM   #92
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Not ridiculous. I still think it can/will hit $100k in 2020.
This thread has aged well.
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Old 14 November 2021, 10:33 AM   #93
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This thread has aged well.
good call! any thoughts on the future price? :)
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Old 14 November 2021, 10:35 AM   #94
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Old 15 November 2021, 04:26 PM   #95
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lmfao I didn't recognize the date on the first post and I was like wtf :D

lesson: buy it at market if you want it and can afford it.
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Old 15 November 2021, 08:58 PM   #96
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Old 16 November 2021, 01:03 AM   #97
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Old 23 November 2021, 02:18 AM   #98
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Out of interest what would one expect in a trade between a mint 5711 and a mint 5712
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Old 23 November 2021, 03:15 AM   #99
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Out of interest what would one expect in a trade between a mint 5711 and a mint 5712
Pretty even trade I think but personally I wouldn't do it. I'd love to add a 5740 though but that one is many years out according to my friendly AD.
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Old 12 February 2022, 07:11 AM   #100
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$200k nowadays :/
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Old 18 February 2022, 08:47 PM   #101
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Insanity. Love it
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Old 18 February 2022, 09:40 PM   #102
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$200k nowadays :/
with prices that high, i wounder why collectors don't just get 3700s instead of 5711s. they are more rare
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Old 18 February 2022, 11:01 PM   #103
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with prices that high, i wounder why collectors don't just get 3700s instead of 5711s. they are more rare
Because collectors aren't the ones paying $200k for a 5711/1A.
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Old 18 February 2022, 11:55 PM   #104
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Because collectors aren't the ones paying $200k for a 5711/1A.
Good answer.

(Collectors paid list).
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Old 19 February 2022, 12:54 AM   #105
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Because collectors aren't the ones paying $200k for a 5711/1A.
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Old 19 February 2022, 01:37 PM   #106
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Dudes, let it go. Move on.
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Old 19 February 2022, 03:02 PM   #107
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with prices that high, i wounder why collectors don't just get 3700s instead of 5711s. they are more rare
C&T listed a full set for 200k it was sold within the hour
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Old 19 February 2022, 08:32 PM   #108
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Old 19 February 2022, 09:19 PM   #109
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with prices that high, i wounder why collectors don't just get 3700s instead of 5711s. they are more rare
I can think of a number of reasons why lots of people prefer a 5711 over a 3700 (and I don't care if they consider themselves collectors or enthusiasts)...

1) Buying a mint or NOS 5711 is straightforward, at this point still with warranty if you wish so.

2) Finding a good full set 3700 with cork box and all can be hard work and is too much effort for most people.

3) Telling a great and original vintage Nautilus from a soso watch requires experience which takes time to develop, and any mistake will be costly.

4) Younger people can relate to the 5711 whereas the 3700 is a nearly 50y old reference from their parents' or grandparents' time.

Number 3) is the reason for me missing out on a steel 3700/1 with cork box and certificate for around 40k nearly a decade ago. My hairdresser had bought two 3700 in a private deal and thought about moving on. I hesitated while the biggest preowned dealer in town did not...
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Old 19 February 2022, 09:21 PM   #110
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Dudes, let it go. Move on.
+1

The constant complaining is getting tiresome. The situation has been like this for years now. Adapt or find another hobby.
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Old 19 February 2022, 10:04 PM   #111
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I can think of a number of reasons why lots of people prefer a 5711 over a 3700 (and I don't care if they consider themselves collectors or enthusiasts)...

1) Buying a mint or NOS 5711 is straightforward, at this point still with warranty if you wish so.

2) Finding a good full set 3700 with cork box and all can be hard work and is too much effort for most people.

3) Telling a great and original vintage Nautilus from a soso watch requires experience which takes time to develop, and any mistake will be costly.

4) Younger people can relate to the 5711 whereas the 3700 is a nearly 50y old reference from their parents' or grandparents' time.

Number 3) is the reason for me missing out on a steel 3700/1 with cork box and certificate for around 40k nearly a decade ago. My hairdresser had bought two 3700 in a private deal and thought about moving on. I hesitated while the biggest preowned dealer in town did not...
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Old 19 February 2022, 10:31 PM   #112
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My take is that 5711 features more prominently in IG and IG is the buzz and hype. I seldom see 3700 in IG comparatively.
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Old 20 February 2022, 12:53 AM   #113
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Are you sure?

I made this mistake 2-3 years ago.
A friend of me told me he wanted a 5711 list was about 22k euro back the. And secondhand it was more or less 33
He was complaining he could not get one from the AD and was about to buy one second hand.
I told him better not to cause euro 33 k was imo too much for a 22k watch

He did not listen and bought one for 33k

Today he could sell it for 55k euro .....

I guess I was wrong and he was right

And nobody knows what the price will be in 2022....
Could be 40-50 k
Could be 100k. I know 100k sounds ridiculous but in 2016 predicting that the nautilus would go from 33 to 60 within 3 years was also stupidly... but it did

Great prediction in 2019
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Old 20 February 2022, 09:06 AM   #114
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Anyone who doesn't believe me when I say that a lot of these watches that trade at overly inflated prices are trading "wholesale" between grey dealers, just watch this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CaLFYpJjyE4/
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Old 20 February 2022, 09:24 AM   #115
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Because collectors aren't the ones paying $200k for a 5711/1A.
so, who are the ones paying?
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Old 20 February 2022, 09:28 AM   #116
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The 3700 with its monoblock case design is really special and after trying both, I do prefer the monoblock case design of the original jumbo.
Also the vintage font of the “Patek Philippe” logo and the location of it gives the vintage feel of the dial.
The sigma dial also is something special in PP history.


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Old 20 February 2022, 11:24 PM   #117
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This thread aged well.
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Old 20 February 2022, 11:25 PM   #118
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Are you sure?

I made this mistake 2-3 years ago.
A friend of me told me he wanted a 5711 list was about 22k euro back the. And secondhand it was more or less 33
He was complaining he could not get one from the AD and was about to buy one second hand.
I told him better not to cause euro 33 k was imo too much for a 22k watch

He did not listen �� and bought one for 33k

Today he could sell it for 55k euro .....

I guess I was wrong and he was right

And nobody knows what the price will be in 2022....
Could be 40-50 k
Could be 100k. I know 100k sounds ridiculous but in 2016 predicting that the nautilus would go from 33 to 60 within 3 years was also stupidly... but it did

2022: Now you know
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Old 20 February 2022, 11:34 PM   #119
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Madness.

5711 prices cannot go higher.
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Old 21 February 2022, 01:13 AM   #120
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Madness.

5711 prices cannot go higher.
Let's revisit this in another 2 years
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