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Old 27 April 2021, 01:08 AM   #91
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I don’t mind setting either my 5726 or 5205G, it is part of the ritual.
Takes 2 min tops.
Wind, set 6am, date to 1, set month, set date, set day, set moon, set time....done.
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Old 27 April 2021, 08:16 AM   #92
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Partly the dress watch models need to modernise a bit. Manual wind PCs are just stupid in todays day and age and not many have time to deal with the shenanigans. For example I would love to get a 5270P or R but who is going to deal with the pain of regularly resetting or winding it?
good point, i was not sure whether to take the 5270J or the 5320G. i opted for the 5320G for the convenience of the automatic movement.

but i still need to add a PCC to the collection at some point in time and it won't be a daily wearer
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Old 27 April 2021, 08:17 AM   #93
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Wind, set 6am, date to 1, set month, set date, set day, set moon, set time....done.
someone has been spending so much time in patek salon?
that is the exact way the explained it to me
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Old 27 April 2021, 09:52 AM   #94
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good point, i was not sure whether to take the 5270J or the 5320G. i opted for the 5320G for the convenience of the automatic movement.

but i still need to add a PCC to the collection at some point in time and it won't be a daily wearer
Love the 5270J. Just looks damn classic.
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Old 27 April 2021, 07:05 PM   #95
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With technology on the rise (just look at apple watch) and young people dont caring about traditional stuff, dress watches have pretty slim chances of being in long term focus, only few models which could be perceived as status symbol, similar to current sport models...


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Old 27 April 2021, 09:42 PM   #96
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good point, i was not sure whether to take the 5270J or the 5320G. i opted for the 5320G for the convenience of the automatic movement.

but i still need to add a PCC to the collection at some point in time and it won't be a daily wearer
i do agree. very recently i added a 5270P and wore it twice. it is sitting comfortably in the safe. my plan is to wear it for a week or two in a row, when i get to it. the 5320 is supercomy though. on the winder and off you go.
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Old 28 April 2021, 12:43 AM   #97
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i do agree. very recently i added a 5270P and wore it twice. it is sitting comfortably in the safe. my plan is to wear it for a week or two in a row, when i get to it. the 5320 is supercomy though. on the winder and off you go.
How does 5320 wear on you?
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Old 28 April 2021, 01:53 AM   #98
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For about the last 4 months or so I had been wearing my Nautilus 5726 1a; but this thread got me missing my 5205G so I have now rotated to that...gawd....what a beautiful watch. My all time favorite. I know most here will disagree but I think it is the most beautiful Patek wristwatch bar none. I have a blue leather strap that matches the dial perfectly too...pure unadulterated class.
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Old 28 April 2021, 05:11 AM   #99
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How does 5320 wear on you?
great. right size. fantastic lume.
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Old 28 April 2021, 05:18 AM   #100
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great. right size. fantastic lume.
ps: i like the watch, possibly except the fact that the dial has a very yellowish tone in certain artificial lighting situations. the case is very nice though!!!!!
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Old 29 November 2021, 05:44 AM   #101
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So, with auction season behind us, disappointing results at best for vintage Rolexes and stagnant results (albeit on an admittedly super high level) of the Genta designs, but new records for Journe and other independents, as well as great results for Lange… do we still look at this the same way?
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Old 29 November 2021, 05:45 AM   #102
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For about the last 4 months or so I had been wearing my Nautilus 5726 1a; but this thread got me missing my 5205G so I have now rotated to that...gawd....what a beautiful watch. My all time favorite. I know most here will disagree but I think it is the most beautiful Patek wristwatch bar none. I have a blue leather strap that matches the dial perfectly too...pure unadulterated class.
Man I love this watch too, hope to add one next year, finally have sufficient loose change around.
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Old 29 November 2021, 04:23 PM   #103
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For about the last 4 months or so I had been wearing my Nautilus 5726 1a; but this thread got me missing my 5205G so I have now rotated to that...gawd....what a beautiful watch. My all time favorite. I know most here will disagree but I think it is the most beautiful Patek wristwatch bar none. I have a blue leather strap that matches the dial perfectly too...pure unadulterated class.
I'm with you! I also think it's the most beautiful Patek.
If I had the funds I would have bought it.
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Old 29 November 2021, 06:26 PM   #104
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With technology on the rise (just look at apple watch) and young people dont caring about traditional stuff, dress watches have pretty slim chances of being in long term focus, only few models which could be perceived as status symbol, similar to current sport models...


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Yeah, not so sure. The lack of Patek dress models in my local market is not due to the rise in popularity, but rather due to bundling. The ADs are telling me now I have to buy women’s watch for hot piece allocation because they ran out of men’s dress watch to sell.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:00 AM   #105
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Man I love this watch too, hope to add one next year, finally have sufficient loose change around.
Ok, just took the plunge, ordered - will be another few month before it comes in, but I‘m told I‘ll be top of the list. Very excited!
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Old 30 November 2021, 12:26 PM   #106
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Ok, just took the plunge, ordered - will be another few month before it comes in, but I‘m told I‘ll be top of the list. Very excited!

Congrats. That one is so underrated. The dial is sensational.
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Old 30 November 2021, 05:11 PM   #107
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Congrats. That one is so underrated. The dial is sensational.
Thanks a lot, cannot wait! They actually had one there for another customer which reconfirmed it’s the one I need. Just my kind of watch this. Also saw the 5905 1a. What a watch. Will have to make that a companion piece, though I feel my „order“ for that one may take a bit longer to fulfill
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Old 1 December 2021, 10:24 PM   #108
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just a q, could it be that chrono24 reduced the frequency of the that mouth watering Nautilus-RoyalOak landing page background image in favor of some dress watch images?

in the past i only saw the Nautilus-RoyalOak on first load.. now suddenly i see some Nomos too.

this kind of change might have an influence as well
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Old 1 December 2021, 10:41 PM   #109
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Ok, just took the plunge, ordered - will be another few month before it comes in, but I‘m told I‘ll be top of the list. Very excited!
Congratulations in advance Fred
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Old 1 December 2021, 11:11 PM   #110
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The 5196 is killer.
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Old 1 December 2021, 11:34 PM   #111
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I'm with you! I also think it's the most beautiful Patek.
If I had the funds I would have bought it.
Regarding the 5205G: I had a chance to this one on a couple of weeks ago, and it’s stunning. I was especially taken with that case design and the lugs. Every part of that watch is a marvel. Enjoy it!
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Old 3 December 2021, 05:45 PM   #112
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I’m 45 and recently picked up a classic Art Deco style Gondolo I have bigger sports watch’s but love the classic slim 1920’s style of this one, I also recently swapped my 39mm Explorer for a 36mm so my tastes are definitely sliming down to what they were 20 years ago!!
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Old 4 December 2021, 08:03 AM   #113
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When the hype kids see that everyone has a nautilus or the Royal Oak, the question they ask themselves is: how can I stand out from the rest? That’s when the tide changes.
This is a smart man.
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Old 4 December 2021, 08:25 AM   #114
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The hype kids only care about which watches mimic crypto's rise because they want to invest in watches.

The hype kids don't wear watches. They use their iPhone and Apple Watch.
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Old 4 December 2021, 04:59 PM   #115
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I can see Patek and Lange dress watches becoming more mainstream, in much the same way Rolls-Royce and Bentley have transitioned from catering to more "younger wealth" over the years
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Old 5 December 2021, 12:13 AM   #116
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OP that was a great reflection on the market and some interesting comparisons. Being in my early 50s, like many my age, we’ve seen fashion trends jump all over the place and sometimes come full circle. Will dress watches re-emerge as the desired timepieces? Probably.
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Old 5 December 2021, 12:36 AM   #117
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Its too early to say.
I am in my 30s and love sport watches over dressies.
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Old 5 December 2021, 06:44 PM   #118
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Its too early to say.
I am in my 30s and love sport watches over dressies.
Honestly I love rare handcrafts and dome clocks. Would I like a 5164 as a daily beater yes but I’ll take pp grand comps all day over sport watches I just can’t afford them. 5270p and 5370p are my absolute grails plus the falcon head one. How about that for a 3 watch collection?
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Old 5 December 2021, 09:57 PM   #119
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I'm actually dying to pick up a simple three hand calatrava, but I'm also still giving two little kids (3 and 5) baths regularly, and I don't feel like taking my watch on and off for that haha. Especially a $30k patek.

Now I understand that's not exactly what we're talking about here, but I still think there is and will always be a general overall "do anything, anywhere" attitude that makes sport watches incredibly appealing.

All that said, if you have a desk job and a nanny at home, I could totally see the dress watch taking off. Actually, not to make this about the "I" word (investment shhhhh lol), but someone just asked me, if the ship sailed on all these hard to get watches, which ones can still be had for retail or less. I said, the dress watches might be next.

The same way Rolex executed perfectly, making even gold watches now hard to get and demanding a premium, I'm sure Patek could easily figure out a way to make the calatrava the next hot watch.
As another father of young kids I think they are very valid considerations - mine are 1 and 3 and bath time, nappy changes, etc do make you think about what you reach for from the watch box. Also I do think it depends on how and if you are dressing for work, etc.

That said, this weekend I put on a dress shirt just to be able to wear my VC ultra-fine 1955 and today I put on my 5196r to wear around the house (5196 is actually a very versatile piece in my view and does just as well with jeans and a t-shirt as it does with a suit).

The watch I have found that suits my lifestyle overall though is the VC Overseas on a rubber strap. It is my do anything watch and it feels at home. An aquanaut would cover the same ground if I could have gotten one.

In summary I would say that I am finding a lot more time for dress watches in my life, but it is a conscious effort and has some restrictions. I think the really watch of the moment is one that straddles that boundary of robust, sporting and refined. Of the major names, I think the royal oak is the one in most danger as it is the least practical as a daily wear, despite being a “sports watch”.
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Old 13 December 2021, 06:47 AM   #120
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The 5196 is killer.
IMO 5196 is nicer and more elegant than the cluttered 6119.
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