Rolex uk seem to have introduced even more rules......

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by tng11

If true, this is to another level of ridiculousness.

I can see and accept Patek doing this - I was the first one to report on here that the Patek distributor in Hong Kong is vetting all purchasers of SS Nautilus models before providing allocations. But Rolex is a mass produced watch! Besides, there are so many ways around this that grey dealers will be the only ones to prosper in the end from all these shenanigans.

grey prices are all of a sudden tolerable to me. Give money, get watch. Simple

[yannis]

I knew about the 2 second rule that only a fool breaks. Now we have the 2 professional Rolex rule introduced in the UK.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Busyboy

Rolex are doing what they can.... But it stings

I got a call today from UK Rolex AD I've dealt with numerous times. My name had come up for consideration for a white dial Daytona 116500ln - and so it was passed to rolex to "consider for an allocation"

Apparently this is the way rolex UK want it to be done now, what with 7 year waiting lists in place for some models in some stores!!! And I suppose to cut the supply to the secondary market.... I suppose it seems like a reasonable idea... Right?

Well, I'd I'm say not to totally happy with this new process actually!!!!

The upshot of having got to the point of being "considered" was to be told infact that rolex said I couldn't have one!!!!

The reason - was that last year I purchased a black dial Daytona, (from a completely different AD), and allegedly ; it is new policy to help with waiting lists, that only one may be purchased

This is true, and my AD didn't know.... So rolex had indeed passed on this information from their investigation of my name

I suppose from the POV of someone without one at all, this all seems to make their turn come quicker. But, really, from my POV - I feel disappointed by effectively being told, my waiting for 2 years (in good faith) has been in vain on my white dial.

The final comment that I was told today, is that, rolex are introducing: a "2 model per person per year maximum" within the current sports line up.

It does help those sat in lists to get something a bit sooner, which is fair.... But seriously.... I do have feelings too, and they are now snubbed - After being a good customer and a passionate patron over many years in order to "develop a relationship" - as we've all been brainwashed to do... It all seems to be worth very little...

Not really a problem as far as can see.

Your relationship with the dealer is still in tact and if anything it's strengthened from this point on.
The relationship you worked on up until now actually got you "onto" the approved list, and qualification for consideration of a prospective purchase much higher up the chain than a Dealer's eternally pliable list.
IMO, you could consider yourself fortunate.
Certainly more fortunate than a new customer trying to come into the brand without a highly sought after watch who have to climb the greasy pole only to find your shiny backside blocking their path.

In summary.
You have to learn to share.
It comes down to perspective and as you note, Rolex is doing its best to manage everybody's expectations across the depth and breadth of their market.
if you don't like it, then go and find happiness elsewhere.
Or simply wait until you are eligible for consideration in a short while.
Your name will surely come up again.

First world problems

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by AK797

All I know is this all never would have happened if Diana was still alive...

I was thinking the same thing the other day.
Only the name that came to mind was Freddie Mercury.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Flip it now just for spite... then you will have the 5990 in no time

Yeah.
That'll f**k em.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Busyboy

Thanks for your help Tyler. I guess ambiguities will be found in any text, or paragraph. But you do have it spot on....



The thing is over the last couple of years I've been building a bit of a collection and admittedly had a few good ones... The black 500 being the peach.... This whole 2 per year thing - is "allegedly" the "new policy" moving forward. It seems completely OTT to me - but they we have it....

Please don't shoot the messenger, I am just SHARING my news.

The letter.
Show us the letter.

[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Rolex just needs to issue a press release. Buying limits, sticker policy, waitlists, allocations, secret shopping grey dealers to identify who bought the watch, etc... no one knows what is going on

Sounds like very tricky PR, can't see how they could pull that off without damaging their image. But in all fairness it'd be the right thing to do, come clean and explain the reasons for the new policy.

[clock]

Originally Posted by AK797

Judgement, Eugenics, Gestapo Tactics... I give you...

The Rolex Producers by Mel Brooks.

Starring Larry David, of course, as Mr Richard Milhous Rolex.

You heard it here first.

I think it's a pretty, pretty, pretty good idea

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by clock

I think it's a pretty, pretty, pretty good idea

[The Sub-lime One]

Interesting...

I received a call last Friday advising that I would be ineligible to receive the white ceramic Daytona because I had already received the black and that it was Rolex “policy” for 1 per customer!

It wasn’t flipped, passed on to my brother. The Daytona is his grail.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by The Sub-lime One

Interesting...

I received a call last Friday advising that I would be ineligible to receive the white ceramic Daytona because I had already received the black and that it was Rolex “policy” for 1 per customer!

It wasn’t flipped, passed on to my brother. The Daytona is his grail.

Sad to hear this repeated yet again, 2 Daytonas I can understand but 2 SS per year is just too much Big Brother, what's next at Basel, the Rolex Orwell-Master?

Just make some goddamn more watches and raise prices!

[MUSTAQT]

I have a question: If Rolex is actively trying to dry up the grey market by employing processes such as this, how will the grey dealers survive? Because honestly, it seems like Rolex is doing so successfully.

[The Sub-lime One]

Originally Posted by AK797

Sad to hear this repeated yet again, 2 Daytonas I can understand but 2 SS per year is just too much Big Brother, what's next at Basel, the Rolex Orwell-Master?

Just make some goddamn more watches and raise prices!

I laughed at all this speculation until now... Rest assured, it’s real and will be following across the “Pond”.

Trusted sellers?

[rolexmechanic]

Up next, the Rolex rental agreement. You must rent the watch for 5 years at the end of which you must return it to AD for renewal.

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[Sprta]

How does Rolex know the name of the buyer? The warrany card does not have that information imbedded.

[GradyPhilpott]

Okay, that's it. I'm breaking out the tin foil hat!

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Sprta

How does Rolex know the name of the buyer? The warrany card does not have that information imbedded.

its transmitted from AD to Rolex. You dont see all the info they have on the buyer on your end but they already know absolutely. If you pay with a CC the AD has your name. If you pay with large sums of cash paperwork is required and the AD has your name. So they would know anyway. However, i would suspect if a cash transaction is under the paperwork limit they would ask for an ID if Rolex is making the buyers name mandatory in order to keep track. Its not really possible to buy truly anonymously these days anyway.

I know for a fact AP for example puts all buyers names in a data base even though the paperwork doesnt list a name and the AD provides this info to AP

[Devildog]

This.

My AD asked for my name and address last time I purchased new.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Devildog

This.

My AD asked for my name and address last time I purchased new.

i have to bring my passport every time i buy a watch. Its because i use a US based CC that isnt chip and pin and is chip and signature... so in my case they have photocopies of my passport. im really screwed

They need my address anyway to send me christmas cards

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Devildog

This.

My AD asked for my name and address last time I purchased new.

It could just be something as simple as keeping their records of your contact details up to date.
My local sends me things in the mail from time to time and it's always a very pleasant surprise.
Calenders, the Rolex magazine and letters of upcoming events, etc.
Nothing sinister about it.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Dirt

It could just be something as simple as keeping their records of your contact details up to date.
My local sends me things in the mail from time to time and it's always a very pleasant surprise.
Calenders, the Rolex magazine and letters of upcoming events, etc.
Nothing sinister about it.

Of course they have that for internal uses, but you dont think that info is also transmitted to Rolex? They have an interest in your buying habits as much as your AD does.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Okay, that's it. I'm breaking out the tin foil hat!

You'll be right then

Then again, how will they be able to locate you in order to beam you up to the mothership when the end of the Earth is coming?
They're making a list, and checking it twice.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Dirt

You'll be right then

Then again, how will they be able to locate you in order to beam you up to the mothership when the end of the Earth is coming?
They're making a list, and checking it twice.

I have connections.

[JM0127]

If that mess comes here, I will sell ALL of my stuff and buy another brand. I'm not into the micromanaging. Rolex screwed up and didn't supply enough to meet the demand and therefore want to penalize the end user. No thanks. If the 2 per year comes to fruition, I'll move on down the road.

[DoctorA]

We need to implement a lie detector on everyone involved!! Lol

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Of course they have that for internal uses, but you dont think that info is also transmitted to Rolex? They have an interest in your buying habits as much as your AD does.

Quite right.
I agree completely.

But I trust the motives and security of Rolex when it comes to the gathering of data or for that matter Metadata, than I ever will with entrusting it to other corporate entities or for that matter. THE GOVERNMENT.
As noted, Rolex can keep secrets much better than the people the government assures us can be trusted.
Julian Assange and Co would love to be able to hack into the Rolex system.
Nope Rolex is well out of their reach

[adg31]

It will be interesting to see how this data collection by Rolex and their AD's works when the new EU GDPR comes into force giving the individual more rights over who holds what data on them - including the right to be deleted.


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[tyler1980]

I do remember Neil specifically months ago talking a lot about Rolex tracking down grey watches and linking them back to the original owners and the AD's who sold them. Rolex was then pushing hard on the AD's to stop selling to flippers making AD's very nervous selling anything to anyone they didn't know well. No one believed him outside of the UK members and still some were skeptical. It was true and i think this is too. It all fits, plus its been confirmed by at least 3 members so far.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by adg31

It will be interesting to see how this data collection by Rolex and their AD's works when the new EU GDPR comes into force giving the individual more rights over who holds what data on them - including the right to be deleted.


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I would guess by buying a watch you agree to the terms as you can chose not to buy. Generally companies you do business with you have given consent. I dont think its unreasonable for a company (any company) to need to know who their customer is.

Not familiar with that particular regulation but in general companies you are a customer of have a wider latitude than random companies you have no relationship with.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

I do remember Neil specifically months ago talking a lot about Rolex tracking down grey watches and linking them back to the original owners and the AD's who sold them. Rolex was then pushing hard on the AD's to stop selling to flippers making AD's very nervous selling anything to anyone they didn't know well. No one believed him outside of the UK members and still some were skeptical. It was true and i think this is too. It all fits, plus its been confirmed by at least 3 members so far.

The letter.
We need to see the letter.

Alternately.
One could grind the serial numbers off the watch case and movement like one would with an ill gotten fire arm.
That way Rolex can't track the watch's history. EVER.