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Old 23 October 2017, 07:15 PM   #31
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I think you're wrong, but if you're not happy with your 5711 I'll gladly buy it from you!
Thanks dear, it is already booked for my son. Also, it is an investment, not only fashion
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Old 23 October 2017, 07:21 PM   #32
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Are you living in Qatar....me too, perhaps we could catch up for a coffee. Qatar is watch heaven

However, I found most of the dealers' salesmen not very knowledgeable and give biased advice. Specifically patek guys I don't trust what they say at all. On patek website there is only 2 options for stainless steel 5711, the white and the blue and obviously yours is the blue. Here are some photos to help you with the color
Hi Helmi, I agree with you regarding the salesmen knowledge. I dont see them expert. They are able to make you buy the items through nice speech. But in Lagoona Mr. George is the only one has experince and he said Patek produces some times the Grey which doesn't exist in the website !!! He said I am lucky for having the grey which is harder to find than the blue dial. But the users with great thanks in the forum are lowering my depression by the photos and conviencing me it is not grey
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Old 23 October 2017, 07:23 PM   #33
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From thr pictures, It looks grey
That is right. From some pictures
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Old 24 October 2017, 04:10 AM   #34
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What is this Grey dial he speaks of? I've never heard of a grey stainless steel 5711 dial.
Agreed. They never made this watch with a grey dial. The blue is more of a slate blue and not a bright blue as is on the platinum edition.
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Old 24 October 2017, 04:13 AM   #35
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Here is another photo
Your first photo clearly looks the proper blue and this photo looks grey, The allure of the blue dial is it appears to be different colors in varying lighting.
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Old 24 October 2017, 07:51 AM   #36
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Sometimes grey, sometime blue, always an excellent watch! 20171023_225003-COLLAGE.jpg

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Old 24 October 2017, 08:40 AM   #37
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So here is a thread I created a few months ago.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=505965

My Local AD in Qatar didnt know much about it, nor did the AD in Bahrain, however my friend's AD in Australia confirmed to him that the dial is a different shade now.

I distinctively remember hunting my next target much before I acquired my 5711.
This was much early on in my collecting, and I made sure to try all the options before hunting for the 5711.
Initially it was the 5167, then it was the AP 15202, then in was the white 5711 which I was set on, however wanted to wait till I got to try a blue 5711 in the flesh before pursuing.
It was nothing other than the design, and specifically that extremely deep blue dial that had me restless till I could get one of my own.

I am 100% certain that the new ones are not the same shade, and more of a greyish blue.
Still a beauty, but it wasn't what I had fallen in love with.
If you saw my thread, I must admit that in the flesh it is honestly more obvious than in the pictures, but the dials are nothing alike.
I ended up keeping my old one.
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Old 24 October 2017, 08:48 AM   #38
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Old 24 October 2017, 08:55 AM   #39
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Good question.



On the Certificate, the "Cadran/Dial: NOIR TRAME 12 INDEX GR SLM C3"

WHILE on the box the Dial is "932TNGT3" !






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Old 24 October 2017, 12:29 PM   #40
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Even the hands and indices look to be different, no? Larger vs slimmer in width?
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Old 24 October 2017, 12:36 PM   #41
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Ask Karl, he has a ton of photos.
I know Karl has the P but I asked about the G 5796.

I haven't seen anyone post an incoming of one of those. Obviously either would be grail material for me but really like the 5796/1G bc of its stealthiness. The 5711 dial is my least favorite of the Nautilus line yet I have the 1R lol. Still great but just like complications more.
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Old 24 October 2017, 12:46 PM   #42
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I know Karl has the P but I asked about the G 5796.

I haven't seen anyone post an incoming of one of those. Obviously either would be grail material for me but really like the 5796/1G bc of its stealthiness. The 5711 dial is my least favorite of the Nautilus line yet I have the 1R lol. Still great but just like complications more.
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Old 24 October 2017, 03:19 PM   #43
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Old 24 October 2017, 04:08 PM   #44
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Even the hands and indices look to be different, no? Larger vs slimmer in width?

Yes. The indices and lume are completely different too.
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Old 24 October 2017, 06:17 PM   #45
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Hi,

On May 2017, I bought from UK after waiting, Patek Philippe 5711/1A-010. The dial supposed to be blue. But what I received is Grey !!! The shop staff said the Grey discontinued by 2010 !

Please open the attachment and explain to me am I wrong, or the manufacturer gave me wrong dial


Mine is blue with Geneva seal. Both dials are winner :)




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Old 24 October 2017, 09:44 PM   #46
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So here is a thread I created a few months ago.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=505965

My Local AD in Qatar didnt know much about it, nor did the AD in Bahrain, however my friend's AD in Australia confirmed to him that the dial is a different shade now.

I distinctively remember hunting my next target much before I acquired my 5711.
This was much early on in my collecting, and I made sure to try all the options before hunting for the 5711.
Initially it was the 5167, then it was the AP 15202, then in was the white 5711 which I was set on, however wanted to wait till I got to try a blue 5711 in the flesh before pursuing.
It was nothing other than the design, and specifically that extremely deep blue dial that had me restless till I could get one of my own.

I am 100% certain that the new ones are not the same shade, and more of a greyish blue.
Still a beauty, but it wasn't what I had fallen in love with.
If you saw my thread, I must admit that in the flesh it is honestly more obvious than in the pictures, but the dials are nothing alike.
I ended up keeping my old one.
I did noticed that there also two different versions of the blue 5711 dial.
One has thicker "lines" and has the Patek Philippe text a little bit lower then the one with the thinner lines.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...631bf62910.jpg

This dial has the thicker lines and lower text (which i like more, but you don't see them often)

Cheeers
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Old 25 October 2017, 04:31 AM   #47
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This is rather interesting; I wonder if you could perhaps film both side by side?
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Old 25 October 2017, 05:06 AM   #48
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I believe you can always tell the dial from the papers.

Original blue/grey dial 5711/1A 001 (001 is dial designation)
White dial 5711/1A 011
Current blue/grey dial 5711/1A 010

Same is true for other models:
Original year 1 5131R 001 (city ring varies with each dial version)
Year 2 5131R 010
Year 3 5131R 011

5711/1P 010 - no diamonds, none 40th edition
5711/1P 001 - 40th edition
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Old 25 October 2017, 05:32 AM   #49
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I believe you can always tell the dial from the papers.

Original blue/grey dial 5711/1A 001 (001 is dial designation)
White dial 5711/1A 011
Current blue/grey dial 5711/1A 010

Same is true for other models:
Original year 1 5131R 001 (city ring varies with each dial version)
Year 2 5131R 010
Year 3 5131R 011

5711/1P 010 - no diamonds, none 40th edition
5711/1P 001 - 40th edition
Perhaps I am mistaken, but I believe the assertion is a variation in the recent production of the 5711/1A-010 such that the dial is more akin to the 5711/1A-001 - perhaps advantageously so.
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Old 25 October 2017, 07:43 AM   #50
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I did noticed that there also two different versions of the blue 5711 dial.
One has thicker "lines" and has the Patek Philippe text a little bit lower then the one with the thinner lines.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...631bf62910.jpg

This dial has the thicker lines and lower text (which i like more, but you don't see them often)

Cheeers
This was for a very short period of time, I noticed this on a 5711r on strap I was looking to buy and did some research and interestingly the fakers chose this version to copy on all 5711s so it was easy to tell them apart from the front.
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Old 25 October 2017, 05:03 PM   #51
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If you go by pictures only you'll never know, every picture is different, lighting, angle, white balance, film vs digital etc. They're all the same except the platinum version.
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Old 27 October 2017, 12:46 AM   #52
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Congrats! Its the blue dial, You'll notice color changes with the interplay of the dial and light
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